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Replying To Ulsterman: "When Dublin win again this year it will be 8 out of the last 10 and no one can seriously say that's a competitive Championship; the All Ireland will have descended into an annual coronation. When the Dubs won it in 2011 after 16 years there was genuine goodwill right across across the island for them. My brother in law is a Dub, he was in tears and had every right to be. Yes the Dubs success was built on a lot of good internal work but Croke Park's 16 million Euros investment in the county over the preceding decade gave them a massive advantage in terms of coaching, infrastructure and facilities. It was the foundations from which a now 'professional in all but name' Dublin GAA county squad and set up now exists. You may get Mayo or Kerry giving the Dubs a lash the odd time but let's not kid ourselves, Gaelic football is suffering as a genuinely fair, competitive and to be honest interesting sport. There was far more entertainment in the Ulster and Munster Football Championships.
I can understand the Jacks being outraged at the very thought of splitting their county as they are in a Golden era of constant success, milk and honey. In a way it's not their fault, though I do believe an arrogance and sense of entitlement has settled into to many Dublin fans, but something drastic needs to be done or football will continue to wither on the vine. A detached GAA hierarchy are just burying their heads, are in total denial about the situation and consequently I firmly believe nothing will change. So long as a successful Dublin football team, and a very competitive hurling scene, continue to bring in enough revenue to pay the full time salaries and expenses in Croke Park the GAA will happily plough along. The rest of us will continue be patronised, told to enjoy the wonderful Dubs and given a few crumbs from the table every so often. Eventually though players and fans will drift away to other sports. You just can't fool all of the people all of the time." Great post,something will eventually be done but it might be too late,now is the time at least for proposals,we need more radical and imaginative thinking from the GAA hierarchy.
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Replying To ONdeDITCH: "Great post,something will eventually be done but it might be too late,now is the time at least for proposals,we need more radical and imaginative thinking from the GAA hierarchy." I find it nauseating to hear RTE lick up to Dublin so much. It is extremely tiresome. The pundits are weak and ill informed and calling them "The Dubs" and referring to players on first name terms is just so sickening at this stage. Dolan, O Sé, O Rourke, etc just state the obvious. Surely analysts should be doing more than saying oh the Dubs are this, are that or the other. It is so sickening and they won't state the reason for this issue which is financial superiority being funded by reveenue generated from all counties. I find it surprising that it has taken people this long to figure it out though. Man City were a joke until the money came in, as were Chelsea, as were Leipzig in Germany and now all are at the top table- similarities are coincidence or fact??
You could split Dublin in ten and it would end up with two Dublin teams in the final unless this cash cow stops and other counties are given the same. It is a scandal and I really do wonder why the county boards have put up with it????????
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Replying To tonguey: "I find it nauseating to hear RTE lick up to Dublin so much. It is extremely tiresome. The pundits are weak and ill informed and calling them "The Dubs" and referring to players on first name terms is just so sickening at this stage. Dolan, O Sé, O Rourke, etc just state the obvious. Surely analysts should be doing more than saying oh the Dubs are this, are that or the other. It is so sickening and they won't state the reason for this issue which is financial superiority being funded by reveenue generated from all counties. I find it surprising that it has taken people this long to figure it out though. Man City were a joke until the money came in, as were Chelsea, as were Leipzig in Germany and now all are at the top table- similarities are coincidence or fact??
You could split Dublin in ten and it would end up with two Dublin teams in the final unless this cash cow stops and other counties are given the same. It is a scandal and I really do wonder why the county boards have put up with it????????" Hysterical post.
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I have nothing whatsoever against Dublin,I admire what they have achieved,I don't admire what the GAA have achieved be it passively.
Pat Gilroy was right in my book,dilute Dublin somewhat and strengthen other teams with amalgamation....even the competition up.With amalgamation footballers in leitrim,Limerick,Wateford Sligo Fermanagh etc etc could taste what its like to play in Croke Park on A I final day and have a realistic chance of winning..to me a no brainer.
ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 09/12/2020 14:33:05
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Replying To ONdeDITCH: "I have nothing whatsoever against Dublin,I admire what they have achieved,I don't admire what the GAA have achieved be it passively.
Pat Gilroy was right in my book,dilute Dublin somewhat and strengthen other teams with amalgamation....even the competition up.With amalgamation footballers in leitrim,Limerick,Wateford Sligo Fermanagh etc etc could taste what its like to play in Croke Park on A I final day and have a realistic chance of winning..to me a no brainer." Would they?
What amalgamation would you see Limerick/Waterford getting to play in Croke Park on All Ireland Finals day with a realistic chance of winning.
Change the structure of the whole inter county season. put in tiered competitions with senior 2nd division finals on as curtain raiser to sam maguire final. give Limerick etc chance to play.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3789 - 09/12/2020 15:35:17
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Replying To tonguey: "I find it nauseating to hear RTE lick up to Dublin so much. It is extremely tiresome. The pundits are weak and ill informed and calling them "The Dubs" and referring to players on first name terms is just so sickening at this stage. Dolan, O Sé, O Rourke, etc just state the obvious. Surely analysts should be doing more than saying oh the Dubs are this, are that or the other. It is so sickening and they won't state the reason for this issue which is financial superiority being funded by reveenue generated from all counties. I find it surprising that it has taken people this long to figure it out though. Man City were a joke until the money came in, as were Chelsea, as were Leipzig in Germany and now all are at the top table- similarities are coincidence or fact??
You could split Dublin in ten and it would end up with two Dublin teams in the final unless this cash cow stops and other counties are given the same. It is a scandal and I really do wonder why the county boards have put up with it????????" Jesus wept
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2850 - 09/12/2020 15:43:46
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Replying To Rolo2010: "Hysterical post." Why?
the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 09/12/2020 15:46:47
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Replying To tonguey: "What's wrong with you? Have you a pain??" Well lad, you're the chap who is feeling nauseous.
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superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2850 - 09/12/2020 16:03:03
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Replying To ONdeDITCH: "I have nothing whatsoever against Dublin,I admire what they have achieved,I don't admire what the GAA have achieved be it passively.
Pat Gilroy was right in my book,dilute Dublin somewhat and strengthen other teams with amalgamation....even the competition up.With amalgamation footballers in leitrim,Limerick,Wateford Sligo Fermanagh etc etc could taste what its like to play in Croke Park on A I final day and have a realistic chance of winning..to me a no brainer." Who will Leitrim amalgamate with? I don't want us amalgamating with anyone. Do you think an amalgamation of Sligo and Leitrim etc would seriously make an all ireland final? Gilroy was out of his depth talking on Sunday game. He has a large elephant in his room and he won't get rid of it with his palaver he was on about.
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Replying To tonguey: "I find it nauseating to hear RTE lick up to Dublin so much. It is extremely tiresome. The pundits are weak and ill informed and calling them "The Dubs" and referring to players on first name terms is just so sickening at this stage. Dolan, O Sé, O Rourke, etc just state the obvious. Surely analysts should be doing more than saying oh the Dubs are this, are that or the other. It is so sickening and they won't state the reason for this issue which is financial superiority being funded by reveenue generated from all counties. I find it surprising that it has taken people this long to figure it out though. Man City were a joke until the money came in, as were Chelsea, as were Leipzig in Germany and now all are at the top table- similarities are coincidence or fact??
You could split Dublin in ten and it would end up with two Dublin teams in the final unless this cash cow stops and other counties are given the same. It is a scandal and I really do wonder why the county boards have put up with it????????" Rte pundits are either ill informed or they are told not to rock the boat with regards to Dublin. They have to sell a product that is getting increasingly mouldy and should be thrown out.
But people have copped on and I bet there is panic behind the scenes in gaa and rte. Rte have huge money pumped into the coverage. If people switch off they lose that money. That's why they are already hyping a final most sensible and rational people know Dublin will win by at least ten.
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Replying To avonali: "Well lad, you're the chap who is feeling nauseous." I wasn't talking to you. Unless you and the other Dublin lad are the same person?!? Couldn't be could it?!?!?!
the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 09/12/2020 16:28:30
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Replying To ONdeDITCH: "I have nothing whatsoever against Dublin,I admire what they have achieved,I don't admire what the GAA have achieved be it passively.
Pat Gilroy was right in my book,dilute Dublin somewhat and strengthen other teams with amalgamation....even the competition up.With amalgamation footballers in leitrim,Limerick,Wateford Sligo Fermanagh etc etc could taste what its like to play in Croke Park on A I final day and have a realistic chance of winning..to me a no brainer." Are u for real?? This has to be a wind up. So instead of funding these counties Lump them in together so Dublin can keep get their huge influx of money?! Sounds fair alright!
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Replying To tonguey: "I wasn't talking to you. Unless you and the other Dublin lad are the same person?!? Couldn't be could it?!?!?!" Nope i have one username on this forum
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2850 - 09/12/2020 16:39:05
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Replying To republicofcloone: "Who will Leitrim amalgamate with? I don't want us amalgamating with anyone. Do you think an amalgamation of Sligo and Leitrim etc would seriously make an all ireland final? Gilroy was out of his depth talking on Sunday game. He has a large elephant in his room and he won't get rid of it with his palaver he was on about." You and Pat Gilroy are of the same mind on this.
Both want a fairer system except for splitting or amalgamating your own county team.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 09/12/2020 16:42:12
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Replying To MesAmis: "You and Pat Gilroy are of the same mind on this.
Both want a fairer system except for splitting or amalgamating your own county team." You comparing Dublin and leitrim?? When you land back on earth maybe post again.
the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 09/12/2020 16:45:30
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Replying To tonguey: "You comparing Dublin and leitrim?? When you land back on earth maybe post again." Why was population not an issue when Kerry were dominating, also in hurling Kk has small population and they are always in the mix.
It would be good to follow Dublin footballers for a year to assess what they are doing differently to others. 1. Dublin have a method to their play how often are they working on these movements. 2. Dublin are super fit, what hours are they spending on fitness and what fitness exercises are they doing. 3. the Dublin underage teams are not so dominant so what happens between Minor and Senior level. etc. etc.
In hurling Kk ruled for years then Tipp, Limerick etc. studied and copied them, the top 6 teams in the country should do the same in football rather than look for Dublin to be handicapped that's the lazy way out.
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Replying To Brian_Coyote: "Why was population not an issue when Kerry were dominating, also in hurling Kk has small population and they are always in the mix.
It would be good to follow Dublin footballers for a year to assess what they are doing differently to others. 1. Dublin have a method to their play how often are they working on these movements. 2. Dublin are super fit, what hours are they spending on fitness and what fitness exercises are they doing. 3. the Dublin underage teams are not so dominant so what happens between Minor and Senior level. etc. etc.
In hurling Kk ruled for years then Tipp, Limerick etc. studied and copied them, the top 6 teams in the country should do the same in football rather than look for Dublin to be handicapped that's the lazy way out." I never mentioned population ever. In fact I have stated Dublin should not be split up. It's the inordinate amounts of money they get that is the issue. I don't care what their population is. So are you happy that the majority of the money your county generates goes to fund The coaching and structures of Dublin GAA?? If you are that's fine but I'm not. That is my issue.
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Replying To Brian_Coyote: "Why was population not an issue when Kerry were dominating, also in hurling Kk has small population and they are always in the mix.
It would be good to follow Dublin footballers for a year to assess what they are doing differently to others. 1. Dublin have a method to their play how often are they working on these movements. 2. Dublin are super fit, what hours are they spending on fitness and what fitness exercises are they doing. 3. the Dublin underage teams are not so dominant so what happens between Minor and Senior level. etc. etc.
In hurling Kk ruled for years then Tipp, Limerick etc. studied and copied them, the top 6 teams in the country should do the same in football rather than look for Dublin to be handicapped that's the lazy way out." Kerry and Kilkenny had exceptional bunches of players for an 8-10 year period. What happened to Kerry after 1986. What has happened to Kilkenny in the past five years. Their teams got old and weren't replaced. Dublin have replacements everywhere.
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