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All Ireland Football Final 2020 - Dublin V Mayo

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Of course it won't be the same but at this stage we would gladly take it. Who knows it maybe a glass ceiling moment. I've always felt if we could win one All Ireland we could win a few...not necessarily one after the other but the jinx would be broken and the pressure and harping back to 51 would be over."
Definitely,, would still be a great day for the county,, and good luck to ye too

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 13/12/2020 16:21:17    2321930

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Any tickets about? Jesus I never seen them a scarce...impossible get my hands in one lol

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11566 - 14/12/2020 17:36:14    2322366

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Any tickets about? Jesus I never seen them a scarce...impossible get my hands in one lol"
Don't worry I heard there s loads of free seats available. Interest is at an all time low. I would actually say that this year's final will have the lowest attendance in history lol.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3918 - 14/12/2020 18:35:52    2322393

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I think it's ridiculous they are letting people fly in from all over the world with no testing and a 'promise' to self isolate etc. I don't see why they couldn't have let say 5000 fans in for the All Ireland final, plenty of room in Croke park to social distance, see the difference having some fans in is having on the premier league, far better than the fake stadium sounds. imagine they were letting 5000 fans in, those tickets would be real gold dust.
Anyway it's great we have a game to look forward to on Sat, if it's as close as the last final between these two it will be great viewing. Best of luck to both teams, hope there's no Covid hiccups in the mean time.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3190 - 14/12/2020 18:47:31    2322400

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Definitely,, would still be a great day for the county,, and good luck to ye too"
It will be great for whoever wins but of course the crowds will be sadly missed. Hope its a good game. Mayo have a habit of putting it up to Dublin but things change under new management. Dublin always I felt played with a sort of fear v Mayo under Gavin and that can seep into the players. Dublin maybe showed Mayo too much respect in the past. Under Dessie there s no history so the fear might not be there and the Dublin players can play with more freedom. I can't see beyond Dublin.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3918 - 14/12/2020 18:52:30    2322402

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It would be sad if Mayo beat Dublin out the door and not a Mayo fan in the stadium, after years of heartache.

Brian_Coyote (Antrim) - Posts: 346 - 14/12/2020 22:29:57    2322483

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Jesus, 5 days before an All-Ireland Football Final and this thread is well down the page. Not a good sign. Football is in trouble.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1991 - 15/12/2020 09:54:29    2322525

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Replying To avonali:  "Jesus, 5 days before an All-Ireland Football Final and this thread is well down the page. Not a good sign. Football is in trouble."
Not much more to be said on Dublin and Mayo, this will be the forth final in seven years, simply the two most prominent and consistent teams over this era. i think both know each other inside out at this stage, with a few notable evolutions and different personal from the last fixture.

The fact that we cant go takes a bit of the fizz out of it in the build up admittedly.

Was thinking about match ups earlier, this is were im at so far:

Clarke v Cluxton
Mullin v Small
Barrett v Rock
Keegan v O'Callaghan
Durcan v KK
Coen v Bugler
McLaughlin v Scully
Loftus v McCarthy
Ruane v Fenton
McLoughlin v McDaid
ROD v Small
DOC v Murchin
Conroy v Bryne
AOS v Cooper
COC v Fitzsimons

Decisions for those raised on song and stories are whether to go with Seanie Bugler Vs Brian Howard, P. Small Vs Mannion. Whether we need to bring in someone like Philly and put him on AOS, or Fitzy might come across and Johnny go on C. O Connor in a dark arts extravaganza.

Will Dessie stick or twist!

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4516 - 15/12/2020 10:51:00    2322543

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I think it's ridiculous they are letting people fly in from all over the world with no testing and a 'promise' to self isolate etc. I don't see why they couldn't have let say 5000 fans in for the All Ireland final, plenty of room in Croke park to social distance, see the difference having some fans in is having on the premier league, far better than the fake stadium sounds. imagine they were letting 5000 fans in, those tickets would be real gold dust.
Anyway it's great we have a game to look forward to on Sat, if it's as close as the last final between these two it will be great viewing. Best of luck to both teams, hope there's no Covid hiccups in the mean time."
imagine the rows over allocation over same 5000 tickets!

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 1063 - 15/12/2020 10:58:06    2322545

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Wonderful article from Kevin McStay in the Irish Times today. It's all about the Mayo experience and there's no doubt that that is unique but I think what's wonderful is I can see echoes of my own experiences following Donegal in the article. Things like every town having their own hero, the colour of the fans, the hope and optimism of being a kid following your county. It's a brilliant read.

Ádh mór Maigh Eo an deireadh seachtaine seo, I think this year is too soon for this new team that Horan is building and I keep saying it, but I don't think Clarke's kickouts are good enough to beat Dublin. But it's one game. You never know. As McStay says, unreasonable belief sometimes triumphs over logic.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 15/12/2020 10:59:05    2322547

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Replying To Brian_Coyote:  "It would be sad if Mayo beat Dublin out the door and not a Mayo fan in the stadium, after years of heartache."
Maybe not having a crowd there might be a help, as wonderful as both sets of supporters are.

Was thinking earlier the likes of the parade wont be happening. Some players love all that stuff, some get over hyped by it and can take a while to settle from the sense of occasion.

These are traditionally tight finals, i wonder will not having a crowd make a difference.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4516 - 15/12/2020 10:59:18    2322548

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Replying To avonali:  "Jesus, 5 days before an All-Ireland Football Final and this thread is well down the page. Not a good sign. Football is in trouble."
Ah I don't think so Avonali. The games are coming at us so fast we have nt time to digest. Also only 6 days between hurling and football. Lack of crowds too. Its been a strange yearand hopefully the final will be a good game.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3918 - 15/12/2020 11:10:49    2322553

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Ah I don't think so Avonali. The games are coming at us so fast we have nt time to digest. Also only 6 days between hurling and football. Lack of crowds too. Its been a strange yearand hopefully the final will be a good game."
YOu're probably right Mick; at least I hope you are. Are you heading to the Kingdom for Christmas??

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1991 - 15/12/2020 11:19:45    2322557

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Not much more to be said on Dublin and Mayo, this will be the forth final in seven years, simply the two most prominent and consistent teams over this era. i think both know each other inside out at this stage, with a few notable evolutions and different personal from the last fixture.

The fact that we cant go takes a bit of the fizz out of it in the build up admittedly.

Was thinking about match ups earlier, this is were im at so far:

Clarke v Cluxton
Mullin v Small
Barrett v Rock
Keegan v O'Callaghan
Durcan v KK
Coen v Bugler
McLaughlin v Scully
Loftus v McCarthy
Ruane v Fenton
McLoughlin v McDaid
ROD v Small
DOC v Murchin
Conroy v Bryne
AOS v Cooper
COC v Fitzsimons

Decisions for those raised on song and stories are whether to go with Seanie Bugler Vs Brian Howard, P. Small Vs Mannion. Whether we need to bring in someone like Philly and put him on AOS, or Fitzy might come across and Johnny go on C. O Connor in a dark arts extravaganza.

Will Dessie stick or twist!"
Well Username consistent is not a word I'd use for Mayo. Unpredictable would be closer I think and inconsistent. Mayo have been an enigma the last few years. They did nt win Connaught for 5 years and struggled through back door looking very ordinary very lucky to beat Cork and Derry along the way
Then they burst into warhorse against Dublin. They have been consistent v Dubs but very inconsistent with other teams. Took a couple of bad beatings last year also. Its not long ago that on allianz league Sunday Whelan Spillane wrote them off completely for the championship.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3918 - 15/12/2020 11:23:05    2322559

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Not much more to be said on Dublin and Mayo, this will be the forth final in seven years, simply the two most prominent and consistent teams over this era. i think both know each other inside out at this stage, with a few notable evolutions and different personal from the last fixture.

The fact that we cant go takes a bit of the fizz out of it in the build up admittedly.

Was thinking about match ups earlier, this is were im at so far:

Clarke v Cluxton
Mullin v Small
Barrett v Rock
Keegan v O'Callaghan
Durcan v KK
Coen v Bugler
McLaughlin v Scully
Loftus v McCarthy
Ruane v Fenton
McLoughlin v McDaid
ROD v Small
DOC v Murchin
Conroy v Bryne
AOS v Cooper
COC v Fitzsimons

Decisions for those raised on song and stories are whether to go with Seanie Bugler Vs Brian Howard, P. Small Vs Mannion. Whether we need to bring in someone like Philly and put him on AOS, or Fitzy might come across and Johnny go on C. O Connor in a dark arts extravaganza.

Will Dessie stick or twist!"
Not sure whether Keegan will pick up O'Callaghan.

Con rinsed him last year.

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 15/12/2020 11:43:54    2322563

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Replying To avonali:  "YOu're probably right Mick; at least I hope you are. Are you heading to the Kingdom for Christmas??"
Oh I will indeed Avonali for a few days.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3918 - 15/12/2020 11:50:23    2322565

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Christ I'd love to see mayo win (as a galwegian I never thought I'd say that) but dessie farrell is no jim gavin so while I think the better team is dublin I think mayo have the better manager so we will see.

Dessie could be an excellent manager but we dont know that he was handed the 5 time all winners.

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1704 - 15/12/2020 13:02:27    2322593

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Well Username consistent is not a word I'd use for Mayo. Unpredictable would be closer I think and inconsistent. Mayo have been an enigma the last few years. They did nt win Connaught for 5 years and struggled through back door looking very ordinary very lucky to beat Cork and Derry along the way
Then they burst into warhorse against Dublin. They have been consistent v Dubs but very inconsistent with other teams. Took a couple of bad beatings last year also. Its not long ago that on allianz league Sunday Whelan Spillane wrote them off completely for the championship."
9 semi finals in 10 years. 5 finals appearances. Relegated this year but spent the last 23 years unbroken in division 1....that's consistency. Unpredictable in terms of game play I'll grant you that...we have a strange habit of playing to the level of our opponents....winning cliffhanger games that should be over long before the final whistle....not good for Mayo hearts but is imagine highly entertaining for the neutrals....

On one hand people give out about Dublin games being over before half time, no competition etc....then you have people giving out about Mayo making hard work if finishing teams off and holding on at the end....so I ask the neutrals what exactly do you want?

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11566 - 15/12/2020 13:23:27    2322603

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Dublin to win by 13-15 points is 9/1 with Paddy Power. Good bet

aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 668 - 15/12/2020 13:29:41    2322608

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Replying To yew_tree:  "9 semi finals in 10 years. 5 finals appearances. Relegated this year but spent the last 23 years unbroken in division 1....that's consistency. Unpredictable in terms of game play I'll grant you that...we have a strange habit of playing to the level of our opponents....winning cliffhanger games that should be over long before the final whistle....not good for Mayo hearts but is imagine highly entertaining for the neutrals....

On one hand people give out about Dublin games being over before half time, no competition etc....then you have people giving out about Mayo making hard work if finishing teams off and holding on at the end....so I ask the neutrals what exactly do you want?"
I want to see a close fame yew tree. I'm just giving my opinion on Mayo. They are the one team that deffo should ve beaten Dublin on at least one occasion but they have been beaten by Galway Roscommon Kildare kerry and struggled against teams they were much better than like Fermanagh Clare Derry and Cork.. When you watch Mayo against some of those teams struggling I think Mayo are average and then they come and beat Kerry and d beat Dublin everywhere bar the scoreboard. Now if that's not inconsistent I don't know what yewtree. Having said all that that's what makes Mayo so exciting to watch and I'm looking forward to Saturday evening. Best of luck in the final.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3918 - 15/12/2020 13:40:17    2322613

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