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All Ireland Football Final 2020 - Dublin V Mayo

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Replying To AfricanGael: "Keagan's average score over the years is about 1 point per game. Paddy Durcan is much more of a scoring threat than Keegan ever was." I wasn't speculating and haven't a clue about averages, LK is simply the leading scorer for a defender, that's a statistical fact. Paddy might pass him out at some point (he's 4 years younger), though putting him in the corner for a couple of years would probably diminish his threat and slow down his scoring returns too. It's true in the upcoming game that whatever the number on their backs Keegan and Kilkenny look likely to pair off at some point and maybe even for the whole game. JH has been stubborn before though and might also still go with Lee on Con again... something I'd be nervous about. Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 11/12/2020 13:19:39 2321337 Link
Replying To jacktheDub: "Yep...Lane and Coldrick were the best 2 avail when you rule out branagan and Gough...Deegan, McQuillan, Hurson, Neilan and Cassidy not up to it." . Fully agree on the last three but Deegan & McQuillan not up to it ?? Eaten bread soon forgotten in Dublin GAA circles! timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 11/12/2020 13:30:12 2321342 Link
If Keegan goes on Kilkenny and does well, we need to activate Bugler or Howard, we have no Dermo this year. Elsewise Ciaran might try and create the space through the central channel by dragging Keegan around. That said Ciaran has been playing upfront and less in the half forward line, unless Dublin activate the front press in front of a blanket. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4516 - 11/12/2020 13:32:45 2321345 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "We need to squeeze the life out of Clarkes kick out with a high press and stop the short one, funnel everything into midfield were we will be confident in winning ball. We need to minimise Mayos half back who are exceptional, Dublin can be caught on the break and we cant allow Mayo's half back support their forward lines. Think both half back lines will be key to this who ever can activate their line in offensive play to support the attack will go a long way to dictating and winning this." If the game is close then it will come down I feel to the benches and Dublin as always have the superior power coming of the bench. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11566 - 11/12/2020 13:33:10 2321346 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "If the game is close then it will come down I feel to the benches and Dublin as always have the superior power coming of the bench." Mayo's looks strong to, stronger then in comparison to the most recent finals pervious finals. Dessie has a few calls to make, whether to play the young lads in P Small and Bugler or whether to start with Mannion and Howard, i think he will go with the young lads myself. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4516 - 11/12/2020 13:39:52 2321349 Link
Replying To Pericles: "I wasn't speculating and haven't a clue about averages, LK is simply the leading scorer for a defender, that's a statistical fact. Paddy might pass him out at some point (he's 4 years younger), though putting him in the corner for a couple of years would probably diminish his threat and slow down his scoring returns too. It's true in the upcoming game that whatever the number on their backs Keegan and Kilkenny look likely to pair off at some point and maybe even for the whole game. JH has been stubborn before though and might also still go with Lee on Con again... something I'd be nervous about." I know its a fact but its based over many more games, its different if he was chipping in with 3 points a game on average but he's never done that. I would have rated Jack McCaffrey a far more dangerous threat going forward or even McDaid. Has Keegan even still got it in the legs to be bombing forward any longer ? Is that not the reason he's been moved back? AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 11/12/2020 14:17:08 2321360 Link
Replying To AfricanGael: "I know its a fact but its based over many more games, its different if he was chipping in with 3 points a game on average but he's never done that. I would have rated Jack McCaffrey a far more dangerous threat going forward or even McDaid. Has Keegan even still got it in the legs to be bombing forward any longer ? Is that not the reason he's been moved back?" This is the second year Lee's found himself playing in the FB line and while he's 30 now and the consensus is that he seems to have lost a bit of pace this year, that wouldn't have been the case last year (or wasn't noticeable). That said, he was never blindingly quick like Jack Mc or his replacement in the Mayo halfback line Eoin McLaughlin. He always had a great engine, which I don't think has diminished and he has largely owed his scores to his ability to read play and time his runs into good positions. His record shows he's been good at it: 6-40 I think scored not including this year and obviously all from play. Playing him in the corner removes him from the zones where his ability to pop up can lead to a score, but with Paddy and Eoin at halfback what JH gets is a quicker transition and that's also where Jack Mc was so dangerous. Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 11/12/2020 15:10:12 2321369 Link
As usual it will be all about the match ups Cluxton v Clarke - Cluxton kick outs putting him ahead O Callaghan v Mullin - Dublin Rock v Barret - Draw Small v O Hora - Draw Bolger v McLoughlin - Mayo Kilkenny v Keegan - Draw Scully v Durcan - Mayo Fenton v Coen - Dublin McCarthy v Ruane - Draw McDaid v O Connor - Draw Small v O Donoghue - Dublin Murchen v McLoughlin - Mayo Byrne v Conroy - Mayo McMahon v O Shea - Mayo Fitzsimons v O Connor - Draw Obviously the above is based on both teams making a change to solve an obvious problem and have Coen and McMahon doing a purely firefighting job Based on the above - it will come down to how Mayo handle Fenton and O Callaghan tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1390 - 13/12/2020 03:15:08 2321756 Link
going to be a mad yoke and call a mayo win by 2 or 3. Mayo are freaks and you cnat go on previous games with them they just are not predictable. They have a few fast players that are young this year and seem like decent players. One of few that think they might, just might be able. I will still a 50 on for the crack at minus 1 anyway GameofTyronesIsBackhere (Tyrone) - Posts: 46 - 13/12/2020 07:39:53 2321773 Link
In these times, what is everyone doing for the match next week? Watching at home, trying to get out and watch it somewhere (following protocolls of course)? I see some are trying to organise a bus greet thing in Dublin for when the players arrive. All feels very different not being able to go to the game. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4516 - 13/12/2020 12:32:55 2321840 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "In these times, what is everyone doing for the match next week? Watching at home, trying to get out and watch it somewhere (following protocolls of course)? I see some are trying to organise a bus greet thing in Dublin for when the players arrive. All feels very different not being able to go to the game." Working fir the post office at Christmas combined with a Saturday evening final means I'm gonna miss every second of it,,, I'll miss our u 20 game too Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 13/12/2020 13:04:55 2321850 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "Working fir the post office at Christmas combined with a Saturday evening final means I'm gonna miss every second of it,,, I'll miss our u 20 game too" I can imagine its crazy ath e moment a chara. Really looking forward to the U20 final, its going to be a epic day 2:00pm - 7:00pm, Christmas is coming early. Be interesting to see how watching and celebrating today goes. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4516 - 13/12/2020 13:29:27 2321856 Link
Its nice to have the distraction of the games/final but it doesn't carry the same feeling as a 'normal' year for me personally, anyone else feel like this? realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8753 - 13/12/2020 14:07:28 2321863 Link
Replying To realdub: "Its nice to have the distraction of the games/final but it doesn't carry the same feeling as a 'normal' year for me personally, anyone else feel like this?" Of course not....it's anything but normal. The build up to an All Ireland final is like Christmas Eve every day. Especially the Friday and day before...everyone is rushing around, sorting tickets, plans, getting ready to head for Dublin....it's a great buzz. EVERYONE is talking about the game, it's the only topic of conversation. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11566 - 13/12/2020 14:55:50 2321892 Link
Replying To realdub: "Its nice to have the distraction of the games/final but it doesn't carry the same feeling as a 'normal' year for me personally, anyone else feel like this?" Yup,, don't mean to be a buzzkill but if Mayo or waterford finally get the win over the next week it won't be the same as a normal all Ireland win. No homecoming,, no fans in the stadium,, no school tours etc. (I assume). Most of the experience will be lost,, but the medal is still there's for life so good luck to them. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 13/12/2020 15:17:05 2321901 Link
Replying To realdub: "Its nice to have the distraction of the games/final but it doesn't carry the same feeling as a 'normal' year for me personally, anyone else feel like this?" Agreed.It's not a normal year.Great to have a championship at all. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2406 - 13/12/2020 15:18:53 2321903 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "Yup,, don't mean to be a buzzkill but if Mayo or waterford finally get the win over the next week it won't be the same as a normal all Ireland win. No homecoming,, no fans in the stadium,, no school tours etc. (I assume). Most of the experience will be lost,, but the medal is still there's for life so good luck to them." Yes it would particularly impact Mayo and Waterford unfortunately. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8753 - 13/12/2020 15:21:23 2321905 Link
Replying To realdub: "Its nice to have the distraction of the games/final but it doesn't carry the same feeling as a 'normal' year for me personally, anyone else feel like this?" It's completely different but Mayo will be delighted with the win if they manage it no matter what sort of a year it's been. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 13/12/2020 15:35:15 2321911 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "Yup,, don't mean to be a buzzkill but if Mayo or waterford finally get the win over the next week it won't be the same as a normal all Ireland win. No homecoming,, no fans in the stadium,, no school tours etc. (I assume). Most of the experience will be lost,, but the medal is still there's for life so good luck to them." Of course it won't be the same but at this stage we would gladly take it. Who knows it maybe a glass ceiling moment. I've always felt if we could win one All Ireland we could win a few...not necessarily one after the other but the jinx would be broken and the pressure and harping back to 51 would be over. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11566 - 13/12/2020 15:54:30 2321920 Link
Replying To catch22: "It's completely different but Mayo will be delighted with the win if they manage it no matter what sort of a year it's been." Oh don't get me wrong, I'm sure they'll be ecstatic if they win but it could be so much more! realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8753 - 13/12/2020 15:58:52 2321923 Link