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All Ireland Football Final 2020 - Dublin V Mayo

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If Dublin go on to beat mayo by anything more than 10 points after the dominant semi final performance mayo put In against a team that won a province with cork and even more so Kerry in it... the the Gailge football is dead and buried

Irishcelt (Wicklow) - Posts: 149 - 08/12/2020 00:55:59    2320076

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Dublin to beat Mayo by 6 (hopefully)

surfdude62 (Kerry) - Posts: 46 - 08/12/2020 09:20:53    2320102

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Mayo will hardly get a better chance to cause an upset. Their problem in the past was their lack of forward power and accuracy, that seems to be rectified but their defence is now suspect . I would say the empty stadium will suit Mayo better but Dublin know how to win, have the panel, the means, the methodical, professional approach - how could they lose?

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 08/12/2020 09:40:45    2320107

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Replying To baire:  "Mayo will hardly get a better chance to cause an upset. Their problem in the past was their lack of forward power and accuracy, that seems to be rectified but their defence is now suspect . I would say the empty stadium will suit Mayo better but Dublin know how to win, have the panel, the means, the methodical, professional approach - how could they lose?"
How did Kerry lose to Cork ? Anything can happen its all on the day.

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2842 - 08/12/2020 09:51:32    2320111

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Replying To Ulsterchamps_32:  "Based on possession from kickouts alone I can't see how mayo can win. They won pretty much none of the tipperary kick outs so dublin should be able to do the same and when tipp eventually pushed up properly on the mayo kick out in the second half mayo struggled. Dublin would have to go out of their way not to make hay on the mayo kick out. This factor alone nearly guarantees dublin victory."
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Based on possession from kickouts alone I can't see how mayo can win

That's it in a nutshell - Mayo have no midfield aerial presence. So unless they find a plan B ? its hard to win without possession.

timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 08/12/2020 10:03:38    2320120

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Replying To superbluedub:  "How did Kerry lose to Cork ? Anything can happen its all on the day."
Kerry weren't playing in an All Ireland final! They messed up on the sideline, unlikely to happen to a team going for 6 in a row!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 08/12/2020 10:30:54    2320126

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You know we bet the guts of this Mayo team in 2018 in the championship. I dont think they have improved a hell of a lot either. Relegation from D1 would support that.

I think this could get seriously embarassing for them. Nobody wants to play Dublin in Croke Park at the moment.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 08/12/2020 11:50:23    2320168

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Replying To daytona11:  "You know we bet the guts of this Mayo team in 2018 in the championship. I dont think they have improved a hell of a lot either. Relegation from D1 would support that.

I think this could get seriously embarassing for them. Nobody wants to play Dublin in Croke Park at the moment."
"We" ???????

Well well well!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5245 - 08/12/2020 12:01:06    2320176

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I see several pundits giving Mayo a real chance, based on what excatly? I just can't make a case.

Its been mentioned by a few posters but football is a game where the team who wins more primary possession then the other tends to win, would like to hear some of these pundits explain how Mayo are going to get the better of Dublin in this department. Galway who went long everytime against Mayo in the 1st half won it nearly everytime as did Tipp when Clarke had to go long during that 2nd half when Tipp decided to put him under real pressure.

Unless we see some huge improvements on their own kickout strategy there going to get hammered and haven't seen anything so far to suggest otherwise.

TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 289 - 08/12/2020 12:06:29    2320177

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Replying To cavanman47:  ""We" ???????

Well well well!"
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daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 08/12/2020 12:21:10    2320184

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I think Mayo have a really great chance to win this one. They have nothing to lose, as Dubs are heavy favourites.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2614 - 08/12/2020 12:31:27    2320190

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Replying To TheBishop:  "I see several pundits giving Mayo a real chance, based on what excatly? I just can't make a case.

Its been mentioned by a few posters but football is a game where the team who wins more primary possession then the other tends to win, would like to hear some of these pundits explain how Mayo are going to get the better of Dublin in this department. Galway who went long everytime against Mayo in the 1st half won it nearly everytime as did Tipp when Clarke had to go long during that 2nd half when Tipp decided to put him under real pressure.

Unless we see some huge improvements on their own kickout strategy there going to get hammered and haven't seen anything so far to suggest otherwise."
Tá tú ag cáint ráiméis.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2614 - 08/12/2020 12:33:49    2320192

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I see some comments saying "Mayo will never have a better chance" to "Mayo haven't a hope"

And that fine, football is all opinions and all logic points to a Dublin win and an easy one at that but you know what sport is funny.

So what if Mayo pundits or whoever are making arguments for Mayo's case...what do ye want them to say? We have no hope, might as well not watch the final....

Fact is we are in another final while in transition and it could be argued it's a free shot at it. Loose and everyone will say ah sure look we all said that would happen but sport throws up the unexpected every now and then.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11557 - 08/12/2020 12:45:53    2320198

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If Mayo don't win this one , they'll never win one.
No pressure, no crowd. Dublin not tested.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 08/12/2020 13:00:32    2320204

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I am looking forward to this final although I can't see beyond Dublin tbh. Mayo are the one team for me that spook Dublin and should ve have beaten Dublin in one if not 2 of the all Irelands. They had a habit of rising for Dublin. They did nt win Connaught in 16 or 17 and were very lucky v Cork and Derry going through qualifiers and then bang they start playing against Dublin who used to look so nervous v Mayo. There a history of confrontation too which brings nerves going back to 1985 when a Mayo player got his jaw broke to hill gate in 06 to the Mayo fans taking over the hill. However maybe we are reading too much into history because since the 17 final Mayo Dublin meeting have been fairly one sided. Dublin beat Mayo easily in the league the last few meetings and last year Dublin won easily in 2nd half albeit after a heroic Mayo effort in the first half. For those reasons I'm not sure this Mayo team will have the same respect from Dublin. Dublin have nt played any big gun yet but they look so composed Mayo have played a better opposition in Galway and Roscommon maybe but still I would have to fancy Dublin. But Mayo are Mayo and they always have a habit of surprising me.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3901 - 08/12/2020 13:22:49    2320216

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Replying To catch22:  "If Mayo don't win this one , they'll never win one.
No pressure, no crowd. Dublin not tested."
I don't know catch. The pressure from Mayo comes from people in Mayo before and after the games and the thought of losing another final. Also they are the one county capable of negating the dub fans and their fans have dragged them over the line on more than one occasion. Will agree though that free taking for Cillian Ó Connor will be easier into the Hill this time. Also I don't know how many times I've heard that said about Mayo "If they don't win this year they never will". The same thing could be said again next year.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3901 - 08/12/2020 13:36:45    2320221

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Replying To baire:  "Mayo will hardly get a better chance to cause an upset. Their problem in the past was their lack of forward power and accuracy, that seems to be rectified but their defence is now suspect . I would say the empty stadium will suit Mayo better but Dublin know how to win, have the panel, the means, the methodical, professional approach - how could they lose?"
Cos its sport.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 08/12/2020 13:46:02    2320230

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I don't know catch. The pressure from Mayo comes from people in Mayo before and after the games and the thought of losing another final. Also they are the one county capable of negating the dub fans and their fans have dragged them over the line on more than one occasion. Will agree though that free taking for Cillian Ó Connor will be easier into the Hill this time. Also I don't know how many times I've heard that said about Mayo "If they don't win this year they never will". The same thing could be said again next year."
Well Mick , the crowd thing is a funny one. It seems your damned if you have them and your damned if you don't.
I think Horan stated that he saw the lack of fans on the day as an advantage. Personally, I reckon the build up also has not been as intense and the players don't have the hassle of those looking for tickets to cope with.
Dublin haven't had to play near their best to get to a final so I'd count that as a disadvantage and they certainly have not been tested.
Mayo have some new faces also to freshen things up and Horan seems to be able to get the best out of the players along with the fact that mayo have players who are very well conditioned and can last the full 75 odd minutes.
If they don't concede goals , which is very possible, I think they have a great chance.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 08/12/2020 15:02:26    2320259

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I see some comments saying "Mayo will never have a better chance" to "Mayo haven't a hope"

And that fine, football is all opinions and all logic points to a Dublin win and an easy one at that but you know what sport is funny.

So what if Mayo pundits or whoever are making arguments for Mayo's case...what do ye want them to say? We have no hope, might as well not watch the final....

Fact is we are in another final while in transition and it could be argued it's a free shot at it. Loose and everyone will say ah sure look we all said that would happen but sport throws up the unexpected every now and then."
Excellent post YT

Ultimate respect for Mayo from Dublin fans

Everyone else is entitled to comment how they so wish, but really it's Mayo v Dublin and as such you'll get nothing but the respect you deserve from me and any Dub fan with half a head.

More fancied sides faltered while you boys did exactly what needed to be done.

I'm not nervous at all about this game given the circumstances, the players are doing their best and all I've witnessed from my own County is top end commitment, and good old hard graft. What more could you ask for given the year thats in it.

It's funny how quickly that's been forgotten isn't it.

I said it at the top of this thread but I'll say it again, if Mayo win, I'll salute you.

It would be a truly great sporting achievement given what your county has gone through to get their hands on Sam.

Enjoy the build up

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 08/12/2020 15:49:57    2320290

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Replying To baire:  "Kerry weren't playing in an All Ireland final! They messed up on the sideline, unlikely to happen to a team going for 6 in a row!"
Unlikely but possible . Its all on the day .

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2842 - 08/12/2020 16:22:48    2320309

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