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Replying To cavanman47: "1 high ball, Cooper should've been black carded. The one Cluxton punched, Cooper fouled Martin Reilly. 3 more put on top of Galligan, he was pulled out of. No free/penalty, just a red card for daring to question the ignored fouls." There's that "bias" again you were mentioning the other day eh? ;) Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 05/12/2020 23:05:57 2318901 Link
Replying To CC2020: "The referee wasn't a big factor today. It evened out i thought. Kilkenny couldn't buy a free in the first half. If you want to see a team done by a referee look at Laois in the last 5 min of the 2005 Leinster final v Dublin. Two non existent frees and a 45 where a defender was shoved over the end line. Plus a free in to Laois not given." Yes, other stuff the ref may or may not have missed suddenly gets left out of ones argument as it doesn't suit them. Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 05/12/2020 23:07:11 2318902 Link
Replying To tonguey: "Of course it does. Cooper was a blatant black card! But ref didn't seem to think so. Why?? It was a blatant trip intentionally done. But sure they are different. Can't be upsetting the Dublin players by giving obvious decisions like that." What was killian Clarke on rock..blatant black card ref bottled it and gave a yellow..I love the lads who blame the ref when u lose by 15pts!!! Cavan very poor carrying the ball into the tackle and getting turned over sure that must be the reds fault!! jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 05/12/2020 23:13:38 2318906 Link
Replying To Tox73: "This football season is nothing but a farce, unwatchable sh-ite, GAA has nearly run its course with the Football championship. Numbers are decreasing in rural areas, Rural Clubs can't field teams, people flocking to Dublin first or second generation. Most counties can't compete with Dublin full stop. Would we even have a watchable championship now with 4 teams? Imagine straight away in 2021 just write off 25/26 counties, they will be training for 6 months for very little or nothing. Players just won't commit and I don't think you could blame them?" Think you put your finger on it. Unfortinately with 30% of pop in Dublin its not Dubs fault. Our carparks are full with people working in Dublin from the four corners of Ireland. Gaelic foitball is such a simple game any kind of coached system will affect the game. Doesnt happen in any other GAA code, problem is the game. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4954 - 05/12/2020 23:14:07 2318907 Link
Replying To republicofcloone: "They should have been putting in those high balls from the very start. And repeatedly. But they wanted to walk it in for some reason." It was the 1 route to goal we had. But Branagan made sure we couldn't use it. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5251 - 05/12/2020 23:15:45 2318908 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "He did his best for Cavan!!??? Did you somehow manage to keep a straight face writing that!?? Kilkenny could've had a couple of frees late in the first half. Fair enough. But he let Johnny Cooper off with a blatant black card offence. And he denied us 2 penalties. Then sent off the man who was being pulled and dragged every time a high ball went in on your full back line! When you see Dublin fans somehow claim that tonight's refereeing performance was unfair on them, you really start to understand just how slanted the all ireland championship is before a ball is even thrown in!" Ah I'll give ye the Cooper one :D realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8756 - 05/12/2020 23:15:57 2318909 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "1 high ball, Cooper should've been black carded. The one Cluxton punched, Cooper fouled Martin Reilly. 3 more put on top of Galligan, he was pulled out of. No free/penalty, just a red card for daring to question the ignored fouls." You might have gotten within 10 points of the Dubs had those decisions gone your way. An Ulster ref giving Dublin everything against an Ulster team. I've heard it all now. Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4745 - 05/12/2020 23:29:26 2318924 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "1 high ball, Cooper should've been black carded. The one Cluxton punched, Cooper fouled Martin Reilly. 3 more put on top of Galligan, he was pulled out of. No free/penalty, just a red card for daring to question the ignored fouls." I wonder will the CCC convene a meeting at haste to ensure Galligan's red card is rescinded on the same grounds as Cormac Costello's ? Surely verbal abuse is acceptable now as the CCC set a precedent recently or does it only apply in special cases. moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 05/12/2020 23:52:18 2318929 Link
Replying To realdub: "Well they brought the fire, but found themselves being tackled in the same way as they tackled Donegal. They kept trying in fairness though I doubt Donegal would have let us away so easily. Hard luck to Cavan. On the match, I thought the ref did his best for Cavan but it was never going to make much difference." Like when he didn't give Cooper a very obvious black card? Ref was poor all round, saved by the fact that it was a clean open game essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 05/12/2020 23:59:25 2318934 Link
The era of the gifted forward winning matches is long gone. Dublin I'm sure have forwards who could do memorable individual scores, but they're just not allowed to. Hold, hold, hold, no-pressure hand-passes into the scoring zone and simple points. Very effective, but very dull to watch. Hard to argue with the results though. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 06/12/2020 00:03:35 2318935 Link
Just wondering how would the good Tyrone and Kerry teams of the noughties do against the current Dublin team, both teams had serious work horses along with very talented footballers. Is the problem that the counties apart from Dublin are not just up to it at the moment??? Updlocal (Meath) - Posts: 8 - 06/12/2020 00:06:46 2318937 Link
Replying To Forpucksake: "When did Kerry win 8 All Ireland's in 10 years?" My bad they werent that good apologies superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2842 - 06/12/2020 00:33:52 2318951 Link
Replying To CC2020: "The referee wasn't a big factor today. It evened out i thought. Kilkenny couldn't buy a free in the first half. If you want to see a team done by a referee look at Laois in the last 5 min of the 2005 Leinster final v Dublin. Two non existent frees and a 45 where a defender was shoved over the end line. Plus a free in to Laois not given." Are we really going back to decisions 15 years ago here ? waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13654 - 06/12/2020 00:53:26 2318954 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "He did his best for Cavan!!??? Did you somehow manage to keep a straight face writing that!?? Kilkenny could've had a couple of frees late in the first half. Fair enough. But he let Johnny Cooper off with a blatant black card offence. And he denied us 2 penalties. Then sent off the man who was being pulled and dragged every time a high ball went in on your full back line! When you see Dublin fans somehow claim that tonight's refereeing performance was unfair on them, you really start to understand just how slanted the all ireland championship is before a ball is even thrown in!" Yea ok , lets be honest here , makes no difference to the result . superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2842 - 06/12/2020 00:54:22 2318955 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "He did his best for Cavan!!??? Did you somehow manage to keep a straight face writing that!?? Kilkenny could've had a couple of frees late in the first half. Fair enough. But he let Johnny Cooper off with a blatant black card offence. And he denied us 2 penalties. Then sent off the man who was being pulled and dragged every time a high ball went in on your full back line! When you see Dublin fans somehow claim that tonight's refereeing performance was unfair on them, you really start to understand just how slanted the all ireland championship is before a ball is even thrown in!" I agree , calls I would never call myself. Bit odd. Voter fraud esk. STOP THE STEAL. MAGA Messing, had a few two many pints with that dinner earlier One was defo a pen GameofTyronesIsBackhere (Tyrone) - Posts: 46 - 06/12/2020 01:15:49 2318966 Link
Replying To Cavan_Shambles: "Clearly we are not the 5th best team in Ulster. Did you miss the part where we beat Monaghan in 2019? And then again in 2020? Did you miss the part where we made back to back finals? And are the current champions? We are slightly behind Tyrone and Donegal, but ahead of Monaghan and Armagh. The rest are dross." Don't be getting ahead of yourself. Down waltzed through us in the first half and could have easily beaten us. Antrim put it up to us too and I'm sure both Derry and Fermanagh would to. We have improved as the year went on but to call the rest dross is childish. We were never going to be close over 70 mins in that game Today but hopefully we will have learned alot from it. The fitness levels of Dublin and the tactical awareness allied to the superb skill of the players won the day and if you factor in the unbelievable strength in depth of the panel then it's nigh on impossible to contain them for very long. No doubt some astute management team is already getting to work on a system to beat them and that is the challenge that lies ahead. I thought Kerry or Donegal were best equipped this year to have a go at them but they both took their eye of the ball and so let the chance slip. s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 06/12/2020 02:30:13 2318970 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "1 high ball, Cooper should've been black carded. The one Cluxton punched, Cooper fouled Martin Reilly. 3 more put on top of Galligan, he was pulled out of. No free/penalty, just a red card for daring to question the ignored fouls." You are deciding that they were what they were after looking at TV replays - referees don't have that luxury and make split decisions from 50 meters away and don't anyone start on the tmo nonsense or two referees (unless they themselves put up their hand to go out and referee). Believe me that no referee gives yellow cards for someone just questioning a decision and you have the apologist commentators as well saying ah sure don't send him off because the game is almost over - its time to stop that way of thinking and hopefully Galligan will reflect on it and learn from it. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1976 - 06/12/2020 03:51:16 2318974 Link
Replying To CC2020: "The referee wasn't a big factor today. It evened out i thought. Kilkenny couldn't buy a free in the first half. If you want to see a team done by a referee look at Laois in the last 5 min of the 2005 Leinster final v Dublin. Two non existent frees and a 45 where a defender was shoved over the end line. Plus a free in to Laois not given." Ref Horgan didn't give much to Waterford against yourselves last weekend even though it didn't matter in the end.Hope he has a good Final and that he's equally fair to both teams. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2423 - 06/12/2020 04:01:03 2318975 Link
Here's my proposed solution. Each year the championship starts off with 5 teams, Leinster, Munster, Connacht, Ulster and Dublin. Over a few weekends in April/may they play a league.if Dublin win, intercounty season over, well done focus on the clubs. If any other province win, sam is contested between the counties in that province. Dublin get competitive matches and every county has a chance to lift Sam...... as farcical as the current system so worth a try!!!! And I'm taking the p#ss in case you're wondering DJMon (Monaghan) - Posts: 2 - 06/12/2020 07:45:52 2318984 Link
Replying To Dubsfan28: "Yes, other stuff the ref may or may not have missed suddenly gets left out of ones argument as it doesn't suit them." No. Every neutral and most Dubs saw what happened that day. A match handed to Dublin, CC2020 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 173 - 06/12/2020 08:21:15 2318988 Link