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Replying To Kew:  "
Replying To updwell:  "[quote=KillingFields:  "[quote=updwell:  "[quote=KillingFields:  "[quote=Kew:  "[quote=Doylerwex:  "[quote=supersub15:  "I'm not so sure if the Brits meant their reg system to be user-friendly and their personalised number plates today doesn't help either.
When ours was launched in '87 it made sense. The introduction of `241 and 242 for example was brought in to encourage people to change cars quicker, just a thought."
That's exactly what it was for. New car sales were a good economic indicator and the plummeted between 08 and 13"
Poor Tony ward might realise this weekend it was poor defence not a great game last week lol it's bad when us GAA lads know more about the game then rugby lads haha"]You have a very strange anti rugby attitude and no gaa lads don't know more about the game than rugby lads"]Reading your posts every now and again I think GAA lads do know more about rugby than some rugby lovers."]You are very bitter about rugby. Whys that. Your posts on rugby are more than a Bit pathetic."]Oh I don't like the over hyped game of rugby and I don't deny that but as far as I know that's allowed in this country. I've listened to many rugby fans over the years putting down the GAA (and soccer even more) in the media and in daily life so if I'm pathetic there are thousands of equally pathetic rugby fans out there."]Interestingly Tony didn't say anything about the GAA this weekend lol"]I think it's important to recognise that the Leinster rugby crowd and the Munster rugby crowd are very very different.

I don't like the game at all. It's very much a bias on my part. Not everyone who's interested in the game is like this of course, but in my experience the rugby lads I know are social climbers who consider GAA to be outdated, backwards and something of a bygone era. Incidentally a lot of them don't actually play any sport. They're into rugby for the benefit of their careers.

Same lads when asked where they're from will say they're European......

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3195 - 30/09/2024 07:22:35    2572449

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "
Replying To Kew:  "[quote=updwell:  "[quote=KillingFields:  "[quote=updwell:  "[quote=KillingFields:  "[quote=Kew:  "[quote=Doylerwex:  "[quote=supersub15:  "I'm not so sure if the Brits meant their reg system to be user-friendly and their personalised number plates today doesn't help either.
When ours was launched in '87 it made sense. The introduction of `241 and 242 for example was brought in to encourage people to change cars quicker, just a thought."
That's exactly what it was for. New car sales were a good economic indicator and the plummeted between 08 and 13"
Poor Tony ward might realise this weekend it was poor defence not a great game last week lol it's bad when us GAA lads know more about the game then rugby lads haha"]You have a very strange anti rugby attitude and no gaa lads don't know more about the game than rugby lads"]Reading your posts every now and again I think GAA lads do know more about rugby than some rugby lovers."]You are very bitter about rugby. Whys that. Your posts on rugby are more than a Bit pathetic."]Oh I don't like the over hyped game of rugby and I don't deny that but as far as I know that's allowed in this country. I've listened to many rugby fans over the years putting down the GAA (and soccer even more) in the media and in daily life so if I'm pathetic there are thousands of equally pathetic rugby fans out there."]Interestingly Tony didn't say anything about the GAA this weekend lol"]I think it's important to recognise that the Leinster rugby crowd and the Munster rugby crowd are very very different.

I don't like the game at all. It's very much a bias on my part. Not everyone who's interested in the game is like this of course, but in my experience the rugby lads I know are social climbers who consider GAA to be outdated, backwards and something of a bygone era. Incidentally a lot of them don't actually play any sport. They're into rugby for the benefit of their careers.

Same lads when asked where they're from will say they're European......"]I think you've read too much ross o Carroll Kelly there doyler. There's plenty who join gaa clubs as well for social climbing and other related issues. Don't delude yourself to think otherwise.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3676 - 30/09/2024 10:55:03    2572489

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Replying To KillingFields:  "
Replying To Doylerwex:  "[quote=Kew:  "[quote=updwell:  "[quote=KillingFields:  "[quote=updwell:  "[quote=KillingFields:  "[quote=Kew:  "[quote=Doylerwex:  "[quote=supersub15:  "I'm not so sure if the Brits meant their reg system to be user-friendly and their personalised number plates today doesn't help either.
When ours was launched in '87 it made sense. The introduction of `241 and 242 for example was brought in to encourage people to change cars quicker, just a thought."
That's exactly what it was for. New car sales were a good economic indicator and the plummeted between 08 and 13"
Poor Tony ward might realise this weekend it was poor defence not a great game last week lol it's bad when us GAA lads know more about the game then rugby lads haha"]You have a very strange anti rugby attitude and no gaa lads don't know more about the game than rugby lads"]Reading your posts every now and again I think GAA lads do know more about rugby than some rugby lovers."]You are very bitter about rugby. Whys that. Your posts on rugby are more than a Bit pathetic."]Oh I don't like the over hyped game of rugby and I don't deny that but as far as I know that's allowed in this country. I've listened to many rugby fans over the years putting down the GAA (and soccer even more) in the media and in daily life so if I'm pathetic there are thousands of equally pathetic rugby fans out there."]Interestingly Tony didn't say anything about the GAA this weekend lol"]I think it's important to recognise that the Leinster rugby crowd and the Munster rugby crowd are very very different.

I don't like the game at all. It's very much a bias on my part. Not everyone who's interested in the game is like this of course, but in my experience the rugby lads I know are social climbers who consider GAA to be outdated, backwards and something of a bygone era. Incidentally a lot of them don't actually play any sport. They're into rugby for the benefit of their careers.

Same lads when asked where they're from will say they're European......"]I think you've read too much ross o Carroll Kelly there doyler. There's plenty who join gaa clubs as well for social climbing and other related issues. Don't delude yourself to think otherwise."]Like I said, I don't claim to be an expert on the subject. Far from it.

I'm simply recounting my own experience with I understand is very limited.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3195 - 30/09/2024 12:53:57    2572529

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I see they rugby media are bragging about filling croke park more then the GAA. Why help them out when they keep giving digs at the GAA community

Kew (Galway) - Posts: 107 - 07/10/2024 14:55:53    2573477

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Replying To Kew:  "I see they rugby media are bragging about filling croke park more then the GAA. Why help them out when they keep giving digs at the GAA community"
When you say rugby media who exactly are you referring to?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3676 - 07/10/2024 15:12:44    2573480

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Replying To Kew:  "I see they rugby media are bragging about filling croke park more then the GAA. Why help them out when they keep giving digs at the GAA community"
You would have to wonder whether Croke Park suits are motivated primarily by making money rather than promoting the association. That will backfire on them the more the games are pushed to the margins, as has already been the consequence of telescoped championship.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3193 - 07/10/2024 15:16:24    2573482

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "You would have to wonder whether Croke Park suits are motivated primarily by making money rather than promoting the association. That will backfire on them the more the games are pushed to the margins, as has already been the consequence of telescoped championship."
How are games pushed to the margins? Intercounty club games are reaching final stages then on to porovincials and All Irelands. Underage and adult, football, LGFA, hurling and camogie in full swing in October when pitches are still reasonably playable.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7682 - 07/10/2024 15:33:13    2573485

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "How are games pushed to the margins? Intercounty club games are reaching final stages then on to porovincials and All Irelands. Underage and adult, football, LGFA, hurling and camogie in full swing in October when pitches are still reasonably playable."
County finals be held same time as ever they were in Dublin.

GAA nationally is losing air wars and attendances.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3193 - 07/10/2024 16:21:53    2573489

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "County finals be held same time as ever they were in Dublin.

GAA nationally is losing air wars and attendances."
How are games pushed to the margins?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7682 - 07/10/2024 16:59:47    2573500

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "County finals be held same time as ever they were in Dublin.

GAA nationally is losing air wars and attendances."
You probably used to have club county championship games between intercounty games back in the day though?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14046 - 07/10/2024 17:29:21    2573509

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Replying To Kew:  "I see they rugby media are bragging about filling croke park more then the GAA. Why help them out when they keep giving digs at the GAA community"
Look Kew there was 82,000 at the AI hurling final between 2 Muster teams and 82,000 at the semi-final between 2 Munster teams while Munster rugby couldn't attract 20,000 to a home URC semi-final this year, there are being very selective about what comparison's they are giving.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 852 - 07/10/2024 17:40:08    2573514

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Replying To updwell:  "Look Kew there was 82,000 at the AI hurling final between 2 Muster teams and 82,000 at the semi-final between 2 Munster teams while Munster rugby couldn't attract 20,000 to a home URC semi-final this year, there are being very selective about what comparison's they are giving."
All ireland championship compared to urc isn't fair comparison

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3676 - 07/10/2024 18:45:41    2573521

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "How are games pushed to the margins? Intercounty club games are reaching final stages then on to porovincials and All Irelands. Underage and adult, football, LGFA, hurling and camogie in full swing in October when pitches are still reasonably playable."
August is ideal month for playing AI finals. Very little competition from other sports. What is it now, a nothing month, no intercounty and club competitions barely get going. What's the dividend from completing AI competitions at breakneck speed. Club championships still being played out in October November. It's a bit like brexit, an act of self- sabotage. If it's not rectified soon it'll be too late.

Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 292 - 07/10/2024 23:42:31    2573563

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Replying To Overthebar53:  "August is ideal month for playing AI finals. Very little competition from other sports. What is it now, a nothing month, no intercounty and club competitions barely get going. What's the dividend from completing AI competitions at breakneck speed. Club championships still being played out in October November. It's a bit like brexit, an act of self- sabotage. If it's not rectified soon it'll be too late."
Your club championship like ours started in July. The club championship month in April is gone if you hadn't noticed. It wasn't a great idea anyway, as club players then had a 4 month break til their next championship game, and intercounty was put on hold for April, which didnt suit the intercounty squads and managements. That's why the players wanted to get rid of it.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14046 - 08/10/2024 08:33:41    2573585

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Replying To KillingFields:  "All ireland championship compared to urc isn't fair comparison"
True. What have attendances got to do with it anyway? If there were only 4 Irish GAA teams playing in a similar set up to the URC I'm sure there'd be better attendances at the GAA games. Fact is GAA is way more popular in Ireland than rugby. Comparing the 2 at any level is like comparing apples and oranges.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14046 - 08/10/2024 08:36:06    2573586

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Replying To Overthebar53:  "August is ideal month for playing AI finals. Very little competition from other sports. What is it now, a nothing month, no intercounty and club competitions barely get going. What's the dividend from completing AI competitions at breakneck speed. Club championships still being played out in October November. It's a bit like brexit, an act of self- sabotage. If it's not rectified soon it'll be too late."
100%. Mad decision. My club actually made the point regarding August in Dublin.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3193 - 08/10/2024 09:06:36    2573595

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Replying To updwell:  "Look Kew there was 82,000 at the AI hurling final between 2 Muster teams and 82,000 at the semi-final between 2 Munster teams while Munster rugby couldn't attract 20,000 to a home URC semi-final this year, there are being very selective about what comparison's they are giving."
They are being selective but that doesn't mean it isn't working. The GAA are leaderless against other sports. In Australia the Aussie rules are actively fighting back against rugby league in proactive ways. They aren't sitting back thinking the are too big to lose top spot.

Kew (Galway) - Posts: 107 - 08/10/2024 09:17:52    2573599

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "You would have to wonder whether Croke Park suits are motivated primarily by making money rather than promoting the association. That will backfire on them the more the games are pushed to the margins, as has already been the consequence of telescoped championship."
I agree totally. I thought perhaps they needed funding for casement park but that will never be built now. The only other explanation I can think of is the inclusion of the ladies? I heard the GAA totally miscalculated the cost of incorporating them into the GAA. They are more then doubling expenses while not increasing any profit. They will also have to provide and spend on new facilities. By all accounts it seems they signed up to something they cannot provide.

Kew (Galway) - Posts: 107 - 08/10/2024 09:24:43    2573603

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Replying To KillingFields:  "All ireland championship compared to urc isn't fair comparison"
But weren't rugby pundits comparing a unique 1 of event in Croker to Dublin Leinster championship matches. If I remember correctly didn't Munster play Leinster in a URC semi final 2 years ago in the Aviva in front of about 25,000 fans, where have the extra 50,000 come from all of a sudden.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 852 - 08/10/2024 09:35:09    2573607

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Replying To Overthebar53:  "August is ideal month for playing AI finals. Very little competition from other sports. What is it now, a nothing month, no intercounty and club competitions barely get going. What's the dividend from completing AI competitions at breakneck speed. Club championships still being played out in October November. It's a bit like brexit, an act of self- sabotage. If it's not rectified soon it'll be too late."
There was very little competition from other sports when All Irelands were in September and GAA still didn't market the finals too well. Almost no competition from other sports in July. I agree with the breakneck speed but not the timeframe when it suits many club and county players to finish in July. They put too many games into too short a time. Keep the timefrane but have less games, longer breaks between games for players to avoid injury. Players and coaches should dictate this. Not the GAA or supporters and definitely not us 'experts' online.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7682 - 08/10/2024 09:36:54    2573608

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