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Duff suggests that €50 million of Government money would be better spent on academies to develop soccer players. That'd be like somebody saying the Government should divide €50 million between GAA County Boards to go towards the cost of running their underage Development Squads. I don't think there's a GAA person alive who'd have the cheek or the nerve or the sheer stupidity to even suggest that. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2630 - 22/02/2024 13:23:04 2527551 Link 1 |
I wonder has Duff any views on the FAI shower who the Government in effect nationalised due to their debts and Delaney etc. Now they're trying to pull wool over the Governments eyes like the shifty dodgy organisation they (FAI) ares Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1988 - 22/02/2024 13:56:51 2527564 Link 0 |
Not insulting you. Woke is a term thrown at everyone who is slighlty left of centre, whether they have a valid point or not. You used the term which has been adopted by the hard right, especially in America. You also linked immigration as the reason less students are studying Irish, which is absolute nonsense. Feel free to debate the above if you wish.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8180 - 22/02/2024 14:13:41 2527568 Link 2 |
Woke is a self definition adopted by the American left, Nothing to do with Trump at all. The fact that it is considered now to be an insult by the people who invented it is an illustration that people have had enough of the sanctimonious hypocrisy of the Woke left. You still haven't said what you base your intimate knowledge of the schools on. I assume you are not a teacher, such as those who tell me that migrant children do indeed constitute a large cohort of those claiming exemptions from Irish. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3193 - 23/02/2024 07:53:15 2527642 Link 0 |
Nonsense.Woke attitudes are nothing to do with the left in fact they are driving normal left of centre people to the right.
jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1607 - 23/02/2024 08:22:38 2527645 Link 1 |
I never said who created it , I said it has been adopted as by the right as the thing they are most against. I am not far left or far right, some of the nonsense that comes from both sides is tiresome but your use of the word woke and criticism of the woke left as you say plus your ill informed comments on immigrants and the Irish language paint a clear picture. Also my limited knowledge you say? Did you read my posts? Now you are making assumptions. I have worked in education for the past 15 years and I am in schools every single day in 3 different provinces. I know the breakdown of the numbers doing Irish. Of course the vast majority of non nationals are exempt but the numbers of Irish kids being exempt is increasing year on year. I literally have the data and numbers from a huge number of schools. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8180 - 23/02/2024 09:19:09 2527654 Link 2 |
I think part of the problem you are facing Barney is the particular type of immigrant you have in North Dublin. Its unfair to tar all immigrants with the same brush. I'd say very few of the doctors, nurses, call centre operators, etc, immigrants that are working and contributing who are the large majority of immigrants as a whole in the country, are lurking around street corners in Blanch, Finglas etc during the day.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14046 - 23/02/2024 09:23:11 2527656 Link 0 |
Did you read that over before you posted it? It makes no sense and it's a contradiction.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8180 - 23/02/2024 09:54:54 2527661 Link 2 |
"Of course the vast majority of non nationals are exempt." Which is what I said and you took exception to. Now you stating it as fact. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3193 - 23/02/2024 10:03:24 2527663 Link 0 |
Sports capital grants are awarded to clubs/groups/schools who own their grounds or have long term leases etc which gaa clubs in main have but many soccer clubs especially those in the cities do not. They dont just refer to gaa. The soccer crowd refer to lot of other sports and sport organisations not just gaa. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3676 - 23/02/2024 10:28:01 2527673 Link 0 |
Bit of an aside, but with mention of Damien Duff here, a real example of how some PR spin can turn a negative into a positive - Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2630 - 23/02/2024 10:30:56 2527674 Link 4 |
Are you serious? We were talking about the drop off in Irish. I told you there is a huge increase in Irish kids being exempt. You originally said the high numbers were due to immigrants. That is not the same thing,
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8180 - 23/02/2024 10:47:18 2527676 Link 1 |
You recognize that the vast majority of non nationals are exempt from Irish. Which is what i said and you denied! You are contradicting yourself now. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3193 - 23/02/2024 11:22:47 2527686 Link 1 |
You are just spinning words now. Your whole original point was numbers were up due to non nationals. If you take non nationals out of it numbers of exemptions have increased massively for Irish kids. This whole debate is why the language is dying and being allowed to. Immigrants have nothing to do with it. You brought them into the argument.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8180 - 23/02/2024 11:32:49 2527687 Link 1 |
You seem to be arguing against my post, but whether you realise it or not, you're actually backing it up. In general, GAA clubs - even those in cities - were able through their own hard work over the years to put themselves in position to apply for Sports Capital Grants, and to put together strong enough applications to be awarded those grants. In general, soccer clubs didn't do nearly so well, and that's what falls at their own door. And yes, I know there are lots of other sports and other sporting organisations, but still, when the soccer community refers to "other sports getting more money", it's usually a fairly safe bet that they're referring to gaelic games more than anything else. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2630 - 23/02/2024 12:34:36 2527695 Link 2 |
I hope you are not teaching the kids debating skills at least :-)
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3193 - 23/02/2024 12:41:44 2527697 Link 1 |
Great comeback .
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8180 - 23/02/2024 12:46:45 2527700 Link 1 |
There was a 43 per cent increase in exemptions in the 5 years from 2016 - 2021. Immigrants yeah?
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8180 - 23/02/2024 13:20:28 2527707 Link 1 |
To be fair to Duff (what a player by the way in his day), he was very complimentary to the GAA's facilites a couple of years ago saying that their grounds and training centres were miles ahead of LOI teams. CmonAymonow (Laois) - Posts: 160 - 23/02/2024 13:45:12 2527716 Link 3 |
Good man yourself derailing the chat from duff to immigration. maybe if you spent less school hours online getting triggered you would not be running around 3 provinces. Set up another discussion if you want and stop derailing this GAA one.
brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 675 - 23/02/2024 18:10:05 2527756 Link 0 |