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Replying To MesAmis:  "Slightly undermined by then spending only about 30 seconds discussing the Dublin/Wexford game before moving swiftly on, gotta make sure there's enough time to have a rant and discuss the real hurling counties."
What he was really saying is that Munster hurling is great and it should be on the TV all the time to promote hurling. Quite what Munster hurling has ever done to actually promote hurling is not exactly clear. Quite what any Cork man involved in the GAA has ever done that was not in the best interests of Cork would be even less obvious. Munster had one county that at one stage although second tier were making a lot of progress but if the finally made the step up - they would play in the Leinster Championship. But lets get a few more Munster games on the TV .......

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1901 - 08/05/2023 15:56:03    2476786

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Replying To zinny:  "What he was really saying is that Munster hurling is great and it should be on the TV all the time to promote hurling. Quite what Munster hurling has ever done to actually promote hurling is not exactly clear. Quite what any Cork man involved in the GAA has ever done that was not in the best interests of Cork would be even less obvious. Munster had one county that at one stage although second tier were making a lot of progress but if the finally made the step up - they would play in the Leinster Championship. But lets get a few more Munster games on the TV ......."
Very well said. It was one long whingefest. I was disappointed that the game wasn't on RTÉ and I feel it should have been on. Waterford against Cork was on last week and unfortunately it turned out to be a dull game. Not every game can be shown. A few years ago nine of the first ten championship matches that RTÉ showed were hurling matches. Jackie Tyrell was wrong to criticise the broadcasting of last year's Tailteann Cup final.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6144 - 08/05/2023 16:25:57    2476798

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Replying To supersub15:  "By the same token, can you explain to the greater audience here how the Kerry v Clare Munster final or the Galway v Sligo Connaught final would inspire people to watch gaelic football."
Excellent point

ecad123 (Galway) - Posts: 272 - 08/05/2023 16:55:51    2476807

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Very well said. It was one long whingefest. I was disappointed that the game wasn't on RTÉ and I feel it should have been on. Waterford against Cork was on last week and unfortunately it turned out to be a dull game. Not every game can be shown. A few years ago nine of the first ten championship matches that RTÉ showed were hurling matches. Jackie Tyrell was wrong to criticise the broadcasting of last year's Tailteann Cup final."
Don't think he was criticising it being on, it was more an example of how that was on and the Joe mcdonagh cup final was not and that a quarter final in hurling was played at lunchtime on a Saturday,

ecad123 (Galway) - Posts: 272 - 08/05/2023 16:59:58    2476811

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Kerry v Mayo and Galway v Tyrone wont be on TV. This is Crazy surly the can show the Rugby on RTE1 and GAA on RTE2 ?

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 675 - 08/05/2023 17:05:47    2476814

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Replying To ecad123:  "Don't think he was criticising it being on, it was more an example of how that was on and the Joe mcdonagh cup final was not and that a quarter final in hurling was played at lunchtime on a Saturday,"
Were the lower tier finals not on TG4? They were absolutely right to highlight the scheduling of the quarter final between Galway and Cork last year. Put simply there are too many matches in too short a timeframe. They can't all be shown but Tipp and Cork should have been broadcast.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6144 - 08/05/2023 17:25:05    2476827

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Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet:  "Except when it involves playing an extra man on the goal line defending the last free in. That's OK, of course."
Crokes had 16 players on the goal line now did they :-)

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3193 - 08/05/2023 17:27:42    2476830

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Were the lower tier finals not on TG4? They were absolutely right to highlight the scheduling of the quarter final between Galway and Cork last year. Put simply there are too many matches in too short a timeframe. They can't all be shown but Tipp and Cork should have been broadcast."
Just streamed on YouTube. They used to be shown on TV. The GAA are happy for these comps to be run off as quickly as possible. All 3 are played on the same day. They should be held before the senior QFs and played in summer.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 746 - 08/05/2023 18:10:52    2476845

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Very well said. It was one long whingefest. I was disappointed that the game wasn't on RTÉ and I feel it should have been on. Waterford against Cork was on last week and unfortunately it turned out to be a dull game. Not every game can be shown. A few years ago nine of the first ten championship matches that RTÉ showed were hurling matches. Jackie Tyrell was wrong to criticise the broadcasting of last year's Tailteann Cup final."
Did he criticise the broadcasting of the Tailteann cup final?

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 08/05/2023 18:28:14    2476848

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Replying To zinny:  "What he was really saying is that Munster hurling is great and it should be on the TV all the time to promote hurling. Quite what Munster hurling has ever done to actually promote hurling is not exactly clear. Quite what any Cork man involved in the GAA has ever done that was not in the best interests of Cork would be even less obvious. Munster had one county that at one stage although second tier were making a lot of progress but if the finally made the step up - they would play in the Leinster Championship. But lets get a few more Munster games on the TV ......."
It hasn't done anything for hurling outside of Munster. Many people within hurling are happy for it to remain by and large a closed shop. Many counties at the U20 B level got one game this year and won't play again until next year. The counties below them have no U20 structure in place even though most have minor teams competing in the Celtic Challenge.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 746 - 08/05/2023 18:32:56    2476852

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Replying To brisbane:  "Kerry v Mayo and Galway v Tyrone wont be on TV. This is Crazy surly the can show the Rugby on RTE1 and GAA on RTE2 ?"
There'd be less GAAGO subs for other games.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7682 - 08/05/2023 18:43:45    2476856

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Very well said. It was one long whingefest. I was disappointed that the game wasn't on RTÉ and I feel it should have been on. Waterford against Cork was on last week and unfortunately it turned out to be a dull game. Not every game can be shown. A few years ago nine of the first ten championship matches that RTÉ showed were hurling matches. Jackie Tyrell was wrong to criticise the broadcasting of last year's Tailteann Cup final."
I didn't agree with the Tailteann Cup criticism myself but every other question asked on the SG was correct. The new group format in football kicks off next weekend. Two of the competition's best games Kerry v Mayo and Galway v Tyrone are two perfect games to get the competition started, great marketing opportunities and the dream fixtures for sponsors etc.

Both games are behind a paywall on GAA Go and won't be free to air; two fixtures to encourage football fans to subscribe?

The SG panel questioned why all the best games appear to be on GAA Go, they have a point.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 08/05/2023 18:58:13    2476859

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Viewers of the under 20 Munster final on TG4 reminded that the match is "saor in aisce" :-)

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3193 - 08/05/2023 20:06:38    2476873

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Replying To ecad123:  "Don't think he was criticising it being on, it was more an example of how that was on and the Joe mcdonagh cup final was not and that a quarter final in hurling was played at lunchtime on a Saturday,"
The Joe McDonagh final was live on RTE2

SeanMacDiarmada (Leitrim) - Posts: 408 - 09/05/2023 08:23:33    2476923

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Replying To zinny:  "What he was really saying is that Munster hurling is great and it should be on the TV all the time to promote hurling. Quite what Munster hurling has ever done to actually promote hurling is not exactly clear. Quite what any Cork man involved in the GAA has ever done that was not in the best interests of Cork would be even less obvious. Munster had one county that at one stage although second tier were making a lot of progress but if the finally made the step up - they would play in the Leinster Championship. But lets get a few more Munster games on the TV ......."
What he was really saying is that Munster hurling is great and it should be on the TV all the time to promote hurling. Quite what Munster hurling has ever done to actually promote hurling is not exactly clear. Quite what any Cork man involved in the GAA has ever done that was not in the best interests of Cork would be even less obvious. Munster had one county that at one stage although second tier were making a lot of progress but if the finally made the step up - they would play in the Leinster Championship. But lets get a few more Munster games on the TV .......
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1555 - 08/05/2023 15:56:03


Yeah I'd agree with that.

Cork and Tipp were both poison to watch last year as well, hardly a major error not to show them this year. Cork were live on RTÉ the week before in a boring game as well.

Would over 30k have shown up in 'the Park' had it been live on RTÉ?

Like I don't particularly like the GAAGO model but I think Dónal Óg is being a bit disingenuous to be fair.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13780 - 09/05/2023 10:03:46    2476931

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Interesting to hear Liam o neill on tv last night saying lim/Clare was fixed for the Sunday but when it was moved it couldn't be shown on RTÉ..he gave no reason..I take it that's due to exclusive rights for the Saturday are with Gaa go..I can't figure why matches can't be shown on free to air at different times on a Saturday..there is also a news channel which can surely be used..he also mentioned that it is for financial reason.Nicky Brennan was on same programme and disagreed with Gaa go showing what seems like all the bigger games..it's going to be the same in 2 weeks when the bigger counties collide in football,matches behind the paywall..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2397 - 09/05/2023 10:46:12    2476958

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The one thing 'they're' not admitting to is that they put a lot of the most anticipated games on GaaGo to sell subscriptions, and for no other reason. A lot of waffle being talked about RTE can't show every game etc, and wait til the full season passes before condemning GaaGo. Why can't 'they' come out and be honest, and say that they've put some of the hottest tickets on GaaGo solely for the purpose on enticing new subscribers and retaining old ones.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3889 - 09/05/2023 11:01:29    2476963

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "The one thing 'they're' not admitting to is that they put a lot of the most anticipated games on GaaGo to sell subscriptions, and for no other reason. A lot of waffle being talked about RTE can't show every game etc, and wait til the full season passes before condemning GaaGo. Why can't 'they' come out and be honest, and say that they've put some of the hottest tickets on GaaGo solely for the purpose on enticing new subscribers and retaining old ones."
I'm not sure this is the case but from memory sky would have been showing similar games

Limerick v Waterford
Limerick v Cork I can remember been on regularly enough galway Wexford and Kilkenny Dublin always seemed to be on sky

Only thing I realised today which I'm taking aback with is gaa go have more games then RTÉ

I'm not overly pushed with deal enough though can only get gaa go on tablet but i feel more of a drive to change this deal then there was with sky

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1294 - 09/05/2023 11:38:15    2476978

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Interesting to hear Liam o neill on tv last night saying lim/Clare was fixed for the Sunday but when it was moved it couldn't be shown on RTÉ..he gave no reason..I take it that's due to exclusive rights for the Saturday are with Gaa go..I can't figure why matches can't be shown on free to air at different times on a Saturday..there is also a news channel which can surely be used..he also mentioned that it is for financial reason.Nicky Brennan was on same programme and disagreed with Gaa go showing what seems like all the bigger games..it's going to be the same in 2 weeks when the bigger counties collide in football,matches behind the paywall.."
Hello GAA. Ever heard of a TV station called TG4? They were the first station ever to show a Saturday evening GAA game (football, Cork V Kerry). Why weren't they offered the chance to show those matches? Oh, yes, of course, they might have accepted and people might have been able to watch them for free. Can't have that, of course.

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 644 - 09/05/2023 12:20:18    2476996

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Replying To Midleton:  "Hello GAA. Ever heard of a TV station called TG4? They were the first station ever to show a Saturday evening GAA game (football, Cork V Kerry). Why weren't they offered the chance to show those matches? Oh, yes, of course, they might have accepted and people might have been able to watch them for free. Can't have that, of course."
Exactly and which was point that Ó Domhnaill made at start of their coverage of the Clare/Tipp under 20 game last night. That all the games they show are "saor in aisce,"

TG4 are only ones to keep GAA in public eye over the entire year, between club, inter county, underage, women's as well as excellent documentaries.

They should be given exclusive rights in my view.

Which would also boost interest and take up and dusting off of our own language.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3193 - 09/05/2023 12:35:48    2477001

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