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Armagh V Meath. Rd 2.

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Replying To Borderroyal:  "Anyone any thoughts on the system or what system we play.i can't really figure out what it is.???"
Seems to be no clear system. We employed man to man and long ball during last years league and v Offaly seemed to be a return to the running game in TC , this year it's only after one game but no clear system evident in navan which I wouldn't read too much into v the blanket we faced. But on Saturday we have to have some focus on beating that Mass defense which we will face. Maybe couple of nippy forwards. I'd hope that's all we have been training for all week. That and an actual free taker. Then we can not only compete but win this game.
Hon the royal

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/02/2024 12:15:17    2523653

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Seems to be no clear system. We employed man to man and long ball during last years league and v Offaly seemed to be a return to the running game in TC , this year it's only after one game but no clear system evident in navan which I wouldn't read too much into v the blanket we faced. But on Saturday we have to have some focus on beating that Mass defense which we will face. Maybe couple of nippy forwards. I'd hope that's all we have been training for all week. That and an actual free taker. Then we can not only compete but win this game.
Hon the royal"
I would like to think the lads got a bit of a dressing down after last week. We all blame managers but its the men on the field that are there to do the business.

For me if Aaron lynch is on the field he should be taking the frees and 45s.

I dont see much light in the tunnel for the Armagh game however. You are right in terms of Mcgeeny is not the right fit for Armagh as his involvement has led to lots of players in armagh refusing to commit. But i think they are better than people give them credit for and last year only for a couple of last kicks in extra times, they could have been in the AI decider.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 632 - 01/02/2024 12:45:33    2523656

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Oh I agree. The players must shoulder most of the blame for that display last week. The only thing I will lay firmly a management's feet is the no13 for Fermanagh. For 70 minutes he took us apart. For 35 minutes of that he did it literally right in front of management eyes on sideline . That's indefensible.
Now yeah I do think Armagh are very near the top. But I don't think they will get there under current sideline

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/02/2024 13:04:42    2523661

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Not sure about that regarding Lynch taking the frees. There are at least five or six players ahead of him in the pecking order of taking frees from what I can see. Costello, Walsh, Frayne, McGowan, Moriarty etc

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 937 - 01/02/2024 13:12:52    2523665

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Replying To Sheridan2010louth:  "Agree with a lot of your changes. Personally I wouldn't drop Jack flynn for cian mcbride and I think campion will get another go at 6 against Armagh."
No Caulfield last night in the Sigerson? is he injured or maybe gone off the senior panel????

199710 (Meath) - Posts: 120 - 01/02/2024 13:34:10    2523669

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "Not sure about that regarding Lynch taking the frees. There are at least five or six players ahead of him in the pecking order of taking frees from what I can see. Costello, Walsh, Frayne, McGowan, Moriarty etc"
I think we have to pick a free taker and stick with it. There was plenty of anger directed at mcentee when he kept switching free takers. Colm seems to have got a pass on that so far. But year 2 he should have it sorted. I think 2 one from each side. And make them practice. I don't want to harp on or pick out any individual but Costello missing that free with strong wind behind him inside 45 and dropping it into gk hands is unacceptable in this day and age.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/02/2024 14:11:28    2523680

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Anyway. Enough of the negativity from me. I'm normally very positive. So good news me and the kiddos have gotten tickets long drive from midlands but looking forward to it. Teen daughter has picked out a Spotify list for drive (so wish me luck with that one ) and I am going expecting a backlash and a win. Which will put us right back in the mix Meath by 2.
Hon the royal.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/02/2024 14:14:15    2523681

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Replying To Royalblufill:  "I am not disrespecting Armagh - just some realism!! They are a good side but I just don't see them as a top team! It's not arrogance to say that! They haven't won an Ulster since 2008. The top teams are Dublin, Kerry, Derry and Mayo in my opinion with Monaghan and Tyrone probably next! Roscommon and Galway might be just a step behind again and Armagh probably fit in around there!
I think Armagh are better than us - but I still think if the lads perform we can turn them over! No disrespect and certainly no arrogance but I believe there is more to this Meath side than we saw at the weekend!
Armagh are favourites - no doubt - but can we beat them ? I believe we can! Will we - time will tell!!"
Most people I think knew exactly what you meant, there was no disrespect shown to Armagh.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1365 - 01/02/2024 16:13:40    2523703

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Big game for Meath in that we need to see a performance.
Take a bad beating here and potentially the mood and confidence of the team could really head in the wrong direction big time.

After seeing Armagh scrape over the line against Louth it will be a terrible sign if we're not at least competitive against Armagh at the weekend.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1365 - 01/02/2024 16:24:02    2523704

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Replying To MillerX:  ""I don't think Armagh are any great shakes to be honest"
For God's sake drop this arrogance. Granted they struggled against Louth BUT we went down badly to Louth last year. In some people's eyes it was a flash in the pan. No way, we subsequently lost to Offaly and they, Offaly then lost to Louth proof not once but twice that Louth had our number last year and then in your opinion Armagh are "no great shakes". Please respect all opponents."
Keep a bit of perspective in the games you reference.
Louth beat us in the league by 3 points where we played the majority of the game with 14.
Louth scrapped over the line against Offaly in the championship after extra time.
Offaly beat us in a close game where we performed terribly in the first half.
If we are going by those games alone this does not indicate Louth were far better than us last year.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1365 - 01/02/2024 16:34:12    2523709

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Replying To Royalblufill:  "I am not disrespecting Armagh - just some realism!! They are a good side but I just don't see them as a top team! It's not arrogance to say that! They haven't won an Ulster since 2008. The top teams are Dublin, Kerry, Derry and Mayo in my opinion with Monaghan and Tyrone probably next! Roscommon and Galway might be just a step behind again and Armagh probably fit in around there!
I think Armagh are better than us - but I still think if the lads perform we can turn them over! No disrespect and certainly no arrogance but I believe there is more to this Meath side than we saw at the weekend!
Armagh are favourites - no doubt - but can we beat them ? I believe we can! Will we - time will tell!!"
Don't see any disrespect, however they are a good side with plenty of experience, will Rian O Neil be back or is he long term injury? Class player and maybe Armagh rely to much on him. Difficult trip and may come's to early in campaign for us. Would be a massive win, but expect Armagh to push on after last week's near miss. Still a great test for our lad's and if we can get in front we have a fighters chance.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2152 - 01/02/2024 16:44:12    2523712

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Just a heads up for anyone travelling up to Armagh on Saturday that if you are parking near the ground that the Stewarts are charging you €3 at the school. After the match they are not there and it took me 30 mins to get out of the car park. You are better off parking up in the Armagh City Hotel. Its about 10-15 minute walk to the ground. There is a club house at the ground. You will feel at home. Pearse Og the home club are green and gold.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 791 - 01/02/2024 16:49:44    2523714

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Replying To Ollie2:  "Just a heads up for anyone travelling up to Armagh on Saturday that if you are parking near the ground that the Stewarts are charging you €3 at the school. After the match they are not there and it took me 30 mins to get out of the car park. You are better off parking up in the Armagh City Hotel. Its about 10-15 minute walk to the ground. There is a club house at the ground. You will feel at home. Pearse Og the home club are green and gold."
Thanks Ollie

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 667 - 01/02/2024 18:11:16    2523734

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Replying To Ollie2:  "Just a heads up for anyone travelling up to Armagh on Saturday that if you are parking near the ground that the Stewarts are charging you €3 at the school. After the match they are not there and it took me 30 mins to get out of the car park. You are better off parking up in the Armagh City Hotel. Its about 10-15 minute walk to the ground. There is a club house at the ground. You will feel at home. Pearse Og the home club are green and gold."
Cheers for that Ollie. More info the better

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/02/2024 18:52:04    2523741

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Replying To seadog54:  "Don't see any disrespect, however they are a good side with plenty of experience, will Rian O Neil be back or is he long term injury? Class player and maybe Armagh rely to much on him. Difficult trip and may come's to early in campaign for us. Would be a massive win, but expect Armagh to push on after last week's near miss. Still a great test for our lad's and if we can get in front we have a fighters chance."
oneill didn't feature against Louth but I don't know where he is at in terms of recovery! They have good forwards in Stefan Campbell and Turbitt - these 2 did the heavy scoring for them last weekend
I listened to paddy Andrew's and James Odonoghue on with Tommy Rooney on Monday. They did a thing where they picked a player to watch out for in 2024 and Andrew's went with Riain's younger brother?!

Anyway - here's to a great game - and hopefully a great result! A win in Armagh would be a huge step forward for the lads

Any word on the team? Injuries from during the week! See Frayne got the winner for Maynooth - he's defo going well!!

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 482 - 02/02/2024 08:25:15    2523787

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Replying To Royalblufill:  "oneill didn't feature against Louth but I don't know where he is at in terms of recovery! They have good forwards in Stefan Campbell and Turbitt - these 2 did the heavy scoring for them last weekend
I listened to paddy Andrew's and James Odonoghue on with Tommy Rooney on Monday. They did a thing where they picked a player to watch out for in 2024 and Andrew's went with Riain's younger brother?!

Anyway - here's to a great game - and hopefully a great result! A win in Armagh would be a huge step forward for the lads

Any word on the team? Injuries from during the week! See Frayne got the winner for Maynooth - he's defo going well!!"
Caulfield injured didn't play for Dcu during the week

Meathboyos86 (Meath) - Posts: 19 - 02/02/2024 12:13:14    2523831

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Same team as last week named. Definitely won't be same team that starts. Seems to be same as what's been done in Meath for years. Name the team from previous week and then make the changes later on. Which tbh I never minded but some went mad about it.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/02/2024 13:51:59    2523858

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When you come up against a team who relied on 2 players for around 80% of their scores then you got to think we have a good chance if the game is managed properly!
So COR has to get his match-ups right this week and forget about letting Keoghan and Co. fly forward at every chance. If keoghan does a man-marking on Campbell and our next best takes turbitt and tell them to forget about anything else then we can pull something off.
Yes it is a bit of an U14s mindset but since we dont have any system or defensive structure we need to do something!!
So between that and not giving away silly frees in front of goals it is not impossible!

But is there anyone in the management that is capable of devising a plan or system to do this? Yet to see!
I will be very annoyed if those 2 players come away with similar tallies this weekend. It is not rocket science fellas!!

the thinking on the sideline needs to improve too. Still cannot believe Fermanaghs 13 was allowed to run the show for 70 min!

if I dont see a major improvement this week then I will start to fully lose faith!
This malarkey about "calm down its only the first match...blah blah blah"!! it is very clear to see from the outset there has not been very much worked on in terms of systems, tactics etc...
Putting a wing forward at CB for the first time a week before the league. Putting a midfielder at CB in OB cup and other challenges and then playing him CF in teh first round of league!
Team looked clueless when trying to defend the counter!
This is all stuff that should have been worked on back in nov/Dec.

I hope for the players sake they start turning things around!!

JonnieG (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 02/02/2024 14:07:09    2523861

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Replying To JonnieG:  "When you come up against a team who relied on 2 players for around 80% of their scores then you got to think we have a good chance if the game is managed properly!
So COR has to get his match-ups right this week and forget about letting Keoghan and Co. fly forward at every chance. If keoghan does a man-marking on Campbell and our next best takes turbitt and tell them to forget about anything else then we can pull something off.
Yes it is a bit of an U14s mindset but since we dont have any system or defensive structure we need to do something!!
So between that and not giving away silly frees in front of goals it is not impossible!

But is there anyone in the management that is capable of devising a plan or system to do this? Yet to see!
I will be very annoyed if those 2 players come away with similar tallies this weekend. It is not rocket science fellas!!

the thinking on the sideline needs to improve too. Still cannot believe Fermanaghs 13 was allowed to run the show for 70 min!

if I dont see a major improvement this week then I will start to fully lose faith!
This malarkey about "calm down its only the first match...blah blah blah"!! it is very clear to see from the outset there has not been very much worked on in terms of systems, tactics etc...
Putting a wing forward at CB for the first time a week before the league. Putting a midfielder at CB in OB cup and other challenges and then playing him CF in teh first round of league!
Team looked clueless when trying to defend the counter!
This is all stuff that should have been worked on back in nov/Dec.

I hope for the players sake they start turning things around!!"
What you have said is all accurate.
We can only hope. And have faith that the sideline has copped on a bit and realized that things need to change. It is just about a year since we won a league or championship (real one). Game. Let's hope we put that right tomorrow night.
Hon the royal.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/02/2024 16:12:05    2523885

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Travelling in hope rather than expectation tomorrow. A win of any kind against a decent team like Armagh would be huge. A good performance in a defeat would give you some hope. A performance like we saw last week, all last year bar the Cork and Down games.... would leave you questioning a lot of things. Hopefully it's the former!

royal11 (Meath) - Posts: 95 - 02/02/2024 17:43:27    2523904

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