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here goes...line out & some match ups Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 385 - 04/05/2022 13:57:08 2414853 Link 0 |
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Probably agree with most of this, although I reckon Menton is well capable of taking on Fenton on his own and doesn't need Costello to double up as such. I think our biggest issue will be the dubs forwards interchanging positions and whether or not our lads stick with them or pass them around. I can see Kilkenny and O Callaghan switching roles throughout the game (assuming they start at 11 and 14) and this will be key to whether or not we can stop the dubs getting a run on us
ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 05/05/2022 17:50:43 2415123 Link 0 |
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Not so sure about the focus on match ups, Dublin interchange so much we may find ourselves leaving big holes in our defence, they are masters at imposing their style on others. See where your coming from, but feel our game plan needs to be firstly about ourselves and try to do simple things right ( frees, kickouts and so on). In the past we have handed teams easy scores, while missing same at other end.
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2150 - 06/05/2022 11:04:13 2415198 Link 14 |
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agreed lads....love it...now i think there are some guys that we do have to match up on & stick...personally i think they are fenton, King Con, Kilkenny & scully.....others are interchange-able...but i think most Teams look to have a direct plan on these , and 100% balance is crucial between what we set out to do for ourselves , and then into the mix , the specific issues of the opposition its funny...as alwasy...as this fixture approaches my optimism starts to rise from the floor....as i consider the individuals on both sides, and their respective capabilities ....and then when i think of the scars that this dublin team has left on menton , Keoghan, McGill, etc....i start to worry again that to me is the unknown quantity....get that right...and we can compete...if that is deep...well...Dublin dont have to be back to their best of 2018/2018 to give us a tanking . . Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 385 - 06/05/2022 17:22:03 2415327 Link 0 |
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agreed lads....love it...now i think there are some guys that we do have to match up on & stick...personally i think they are fenton, King Con, Kilkenny & scully.....others are interchange-able...but i think most Teams look to have a direct plan on these , and 100% balance is crucial between what we set out to do for ourselves , and then into the mix , the specific issues of the opposition its funny...as alwasy...as this fixture approaches my optimism starts to rise from the floor....as i consider the individuals on both sides, and their respective capabilities ....and then when i think of the scars that this dublin team has left on menton , Keoghan, McGill, etc....i start to worry again that to me is the unknown quantity....get that right...and we can compete...if that is deep...well...Dublin dont have to be back to their best of 2018/2018 to give us a tanking . . Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 385 - 06/05/2022 17:22:08 2415328 Link 0 |
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Tickets got. Can't wait. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 06/05/2022 19:25:35 2415345 Link 0 |
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Agree with this.
southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 890 - 07/05/2022 11:07:36 2415378 Link 18 |
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Ok other thread gone totally bananas and not relevant to anything. So team to start v dubs ? royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/05/2022 12:43:14 2416217 Link 0 |
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1 Mickey Mc QUILLAN 2. Bob O Malley 3 Mick Lyons AND Darren Fay 4. Donal Keoghan 5. Red Collier .6 Liam Harnan 7.Martin O Connell 8 John Mc Dermot.9 Liam Hayes 10 David Beggy 11.Mattie Kerrigan 12. Trevor Giles .13 Colm O Rourke 14 Brian Stafford 15 Bernard Flynn ..... Caption Graham Reilly .... Manager Mick O Dowd . Meath to win by 10 AGAIN weather permitting ! Hon the royal UP ya boya ! cant wait tickets got! nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1227 - 10/05/2022 13:26:26 2416236 Link 21 |
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Is shane mac on panel for sunday?? Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 488 - 10/05/2022 13:58:55 2416250 Link 0 |
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Indo reporting Shane Mac back home for a few weeks and training with Meath, imagine there would be a mix of opinion if he were included in matchday suqad. Dont think it would make much difference to outcome and has potential to become very dissruptive. May just be a case of keeping in touch with squad and helping out with training. seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2150 - 10/05/2022 14:05:11 2416255 Link 7 |
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For the first time in a long while I can see a path to us beating Dublin. I think there are weaknesses in their full back line Menton and Jones can compete with Fenton and Lahiffe. Fenton is the best of the 4 but Lahiffe is the weakest. And that Dub bench is nowhere near what it was. However we haven't had good form all year. It's been much improved since Menton, Jones and McGill returned. Pity Harnan is gone as it leaves a hole at 6 and Hickey seems to not be able to shake a recurring hamstring problem and he goes us serious ball winning on break and driving runs. I think the start of this game will be crucial. If the Dubs get a lead their confidence will only increase and lose noise last year where they kept letting teams back into it I don't think they'll let us back in the game. If we can play aggressively and pose them questions like Cavan did to Donegal then I think the Dubs will doubt themselves a bit because they lost plenty of close games in the league this year and we will grow in confidence. I think we will have to show more directness in this game and I think like last year we will. Wouldn't be opposed to putting Jones in the full forward line for maybe 10 mins early enough in the game. Doesn't have to be high ball but he drifted in there and caused Derry some trouble. Also think Cillian needs to play inside to win us the ball and mean we won't have to rely on a running game all the time. Ultimately I don't think we have an ability to keep the scoreboard ticking over and rely too heavily on goals and therefore I think we'll come up short LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1463 - 10/05/2022 16:29:38 2416332 Link 8 |
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You what Leitrim i think this is a pretty solid assesment, i think we'll stay with Dublin til 50-55 minutes and then they'll run the bench and the gap will be out to 10 before we know it. I know their bench isn't whatit is but their bench players would all be immediate starters for Meath. Costello and Flynn made an impact last day from the bench for us but against Wicklow can you really judge how much they might impact v Dublin. You're jumping up 4 divisions and huge levels of fitness, strength & conditioning etc. I don't expect much of a change in tactics Joey will be left inside on his own double marked (as he was for a lot of the Wicklow game) and maybe Morris about 30 yards away from him so the long ball isn't an option. I'm not going to lie I fully expect Dublin to get an early goal and this could be out of sight very quickly. Con on Harkin or Clarke is simply asking for a huge amount of trouble. I also fully expect Shane will be straight back into the starting 15, who loses out is anyone's guess, probably James with Scully going back into the forwards. If Comerford is still out for the Dublin, i really think we should be going after the Dublin kick out and pushing 10 men into their half. Who knows hows a keeper with his first game in croke park might do and how the groans might start if he's underperforming early for them. There's a lot of unknowns in this match but the simple facts are dublin have the better, fitter, stronger, faster and more accurate players. That will eventually tell over the course of 70-80 minutes of the match and they should win with something to spare. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 11/05/2022 10:22:15 2416424 Link 9 |
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Wow what a great post. Ur intellectual analysis is unbelievable. Thank you onlybull.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 11/05/2022 13:34:27 2416498 Link 2 |
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This is a game we have to start well, Dublin will look to put game to bed early on. We have to find a way to keep game competitive and get to h/t to be in with a fighters chance, at least put a bit of doubt in their minds. Easier said then done and so far nothing to suggest we have ability to do so. Cork managed to stay with Kerry for 50 mins, kicked their frees and kept things tight. Cavan ran Donegal close, Derry beat Tyrone so hopefully we can continue trend. Much needs to go right, however, this may be our best chance in years and hopefully we leave everything on pitch, with no excuses or regrets. seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2150 - 11/05/2022 14:14:26 2416516 Link 10 |
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Update for Royaldunne Was talking to one of the lads and he tells me Meath to win by 15 IN extra time (providing the ref . is fit enough for extra time) Anyway Hon the Royal!!
nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1227 - 11/05/2022 15:08:12 2416532 Link 17 |
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...i don't expect joey wallace to start...and neither do i expect Shane mc to strat...but can see him being used now that siad...to an outside negative view on this...its pure madness that shane is even back in the panel...but we have no clue what was discussed pre shane's tour or what was agreed among the players & mangement l...this could conceivably be seen by them as a "boost"....we have to accept, we have no clue other tahn performances how "together" the panel really is . Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 385 - 11/05/2022 15:37:06 2416536 Link 0 |
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Interesting take on Joey there Longwood, what makes you think he'd be dropped? I don't think he scored v Wicklow but was effectively isolated for long periods in the first half and the game plan didn't work of kicking ball in to 2 and 3 on one situations. Hard for Joey to flourish when he's the one... On Shane, I didn't comment as like you say who knows what was and wasn't agreed upon. My views on Shane are well known and i think this is possibly a distraction that might've been avoided. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on this and say they knew he'd have a break in his tour and would be back for this game and if he could would contribute. I'm not going to say anything beyond that, brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 11/05/2022 16:24:37 2416553 Link 6 |
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Going up to the game with a friend from Dublin. He is expecting Dublin to win however is not expecting a walk in the park. To be honest I just cannot see anything only a very comfortable win for the Dubs. Con O Callaghan, Dean Rock, Ciaran Kilkenny. We have nothing in our forward line to lace these guys boots, no offence to anyone. thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1049 - 11/05/2022 17:00:05 2416570 Link 5 |
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We need to be ahead at half time, and cannot afford a slow start like last year and 2020 where we gave ourselves a mountain to climb at half time. In 2019 where we only scored one point in the first half, but we restricted Dublin to five points, was actually a good half, where we created chances and had score able frees, but missed everything. I am not going with the attitude of hoping meath don't get hammered, what I want meath to do on Sunday is give us a 70 plus minutes contest with the game In the balance right to the the final whistle with Meath coming out on top. Its time for this team to stand up.
BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 935 - 11/05/2022 17:41:14 2416578 Link 1 |