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The GAA And "Northern Ireland" - 14 Like(s)
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "But, the 6 counties are a different country. You are part of the UK. Unlike the Republic, you are not in the EU, you have a different currency, different police force, different health care, different taxation, etc. Last week, club training for adult and youth GAA players in Northern Ireland was permitted to resume, but not in the Republic." If you view the 6 counties as a different country that's your prerogative. Nobody in Donegal would ever look on our neighbours in Derry or Tyrone as anything but Irish. Indeed they put many of us to shame on the language and music (if not Gaelic football ; ). Most Irish people north or south simply see the 6 counties as an occupied area, set up to facilitate an apartheid-style situation where nationalists had to keep the head down and stay in poverty, economically and politically. Those days are gone forever, reunification is inevitable. The analogy I use with the north is simple, if a thief steals something from you, who does that thing belong to? The rightful owner or the thief? Technically the thief owns it, but everyone knows who really owns it.. that's how the 6 counties is, plain and simple. Good luck trying to call my cousins in west Tyrone 'British.' Come back to me abs tell me how that goes..
Donegal_abroad (National) - 25/05/2021 21:02:50
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NFL Division 1 - 14 Like(s)
So John Small drags Murphy to the ground (again) and both men get sent off? Same Craic as Clifford a few weeks ago. A joke.
Donegal_abroad (National) - 22/02/2020 20:42:44
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NFL Division 1 - 13 Like(s)
Replying To royaldunne: "Ahh would you go away out of that. Meath were by far the better team, Jesus wept at least admit that. Galway were cynical and the ref lost control of game in last 10 mins of first half. As the youngest team in div 1 we will learn from that. But please don't start with Galway were the better team bs , they were not pure and simple" Did Galway not win the game?
Donegal_abroad (National) - 01/03/2020 21:24:05
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Donegal V Armagh - 13 Like(s)
Replying To royaldunne: "Well Meath beat Armagh last year in league to get promoted. Remember we topped div 2 ahead of Donegal?? Anyway away you go." We won Division Two that year, beating you three times in one season. We beat you again this year at a canter. Armagh will be alongside us in division one next year and hopefully they can go one better than Meath and win a game. Now there, away you go!
Donegal_abroad (National) - 03/11/2020 22:41:00
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The GAA And "Northern Ireland" - 12 Like(s)
Replying To Greengrass: "Firstly young_gael I can't agree with your summation of what is taught of Irish history in our schools. I can't agree with you in relation to what I was taught or what my children in both the Leaving Cert and Junior Cert cycles are currently being. I would refer you to Ireland Since the Famine by F.S.L. Lyons. That was my text book for Leaving Cert Irish history. It was first issued in 1963. It treats comprehensively of all Irish Parliamentary politicians from the time of Daniel O Connell and Repeal up to John Redmond and Home Rule. It is entirely impartial and is still to this day an excellent book. I was most certainly taught very well about our Parliamentary politicians. That was back in the early eighties. I would refute your generalisations about the teaching of Irish history in my time. My children are also studying Irish history in secondary school. Their texts also consider Irish Parliamentary politicians such as Daniel O Connell, Isaac Butt, Charles Stewart Parnell, Edward Carson, James Craig and John Redmond. The subject is taught differently to when I was in school but the material studied is broad and comprehensive. You speak of three Irish born Prime Ministers. I can only find evidence of two, William Petty and Arthur Wellesley Duke of Wellington.
You express the opinion that many Irish people wonder whether the struggle for freedom was worth it. I don't believe you are correct in that assertion however I can't provide you with anything other than anecdotal evidence.
I would not classify myself as an extremist but I would view the empires of the European powers as obscenities. I wouldn't distinguish between the British, French, German or Turkish empires. Huge swathes of territories and entire populations were forcefully subjugated and systematically ruthlessly and viciously exploited. The British Empire was foremost amongst them. The Irish Famine, famines in India, concentration camps during the Boer War, the massacre in Amritsar and the slaughter in Kenya in the 1950s bear testimony to this. The British Gulag by Caroline Elkins is worth reading. It is not being melodramatic or incorrect to say that this country and it's people suffered at the hands of the British Empire. This suffering did stretch back centuries. Between Cromwell gracing these shores and dispensing his own particular brand of religious inspired justice in 1649 and further conflict up to 1658 it's estimated that at least half a million Irish people either lost their lives or were transported as slaves to the West Indies. The fight for freedom was worth it. Nationalism and Republicanism can and should coexist. I don't subscribe to the portrayal of Northern nationalists on this thread. I have many friends who are Northern nationalists and Republicans. They are the same as you and I. I could write a lot more but I have spent enough time on the phone. I had planned to answer Bon and Bloodyban ( again !!!) but enough is enough for one night." I also abhor the portrayal of northern nationalists on this thread by the commentators you've mentioned.
To be 'proud' of the 26 counties achieving freedom and saying to the other 6, "we got out our freedom, you should stop with the jealousy and bitterness" is a bit of a joke. 26 county freedom arrived as the last option before Lloyd George's threat of terrible war within days if the Irish delegation didn't accept. The 6 counties were left to the wolves. Most people in the south weren't happy with the division but saw the free state as a stepping stone as Michael Collins did. Ironically De Valera and his 'anti treaty' band of warriors did more to solidify the division of Ireland in the following decades than anyone. No Irish person was proud of the division of Ireland. Nobody saw it was satisfactory but most saw it as being better than the previous situation and hopefully temporary.
People in the 26 counties would not in those times have pointed a finger at northern nationalists and laughed or scoffed. As a people this division was forced on us. And what an utter failure it has been. Sectarianism, gerrymandering, discrimination. Yes, things have much improved and that is largely down to equality improvements and nationalists being on a more level footing. Reunification is the only answer to the Tory politics of chaos and ignorance.
But if northern nationalists are scarred to some extent after what they've been through, who could blame them? I challenge a few of the more arrogant, spiteful commentators bashing northern nationalists on this thread to live through the legacy of war being brought to your door, discrimination of all kinds and pogroms. If some residual hurts remains, who would blame anyone for that? It's pathetic. Some of the views here are disturbing but fringe views thankfully.
Donegal_abroad (National) - 28/05/2021 07:47:53
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Donegal V Armagh - 12 Like(s)
Replying To royaldunne: "And if this year we would have won it as we actually topped the table. As for superior ? Ahh please come back to me when Donegal have more than two all ire. One won playing what can only be described as a afront to the gaa and football. Run along lad." Yes, 2-11 in an All Ireland is an affront to Gaelic Football. Players like Michael Murphy, Karl Lacey and Colm McFadden were an affront to football... thanks for the history lesson too by the way, you enjoy the TG4 re-runs of the glory days and I'll live in the present.
Donegal_abroad (National) - 04/11/2020 13:01:51
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NFL Division 1 - 11 Like(s)
Replying To royaldunne: "What did I say that was a wind up?? I made a prediction , then you came back with a wum post.
Now remind me who is the wind up??" I would say the bookies smile every time they see you coming along before a Meath game.
Donegal_abroad (National) - 01/02/2020 21:45:15
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Donegal V Armagh - 11 Like(s)
Replying To royaldunne: "Of course I do. I say bring them back. They made me famous. Anyways. Good luck to you's. And sure we might (long shot ) meet down the road." That's a very long shot. But it would be great for us if we did!
Donegal_abroad (National) - 04/11/2020 16:51:22
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Donegal V Armagh - 10 Like(s)
Replying To royaldunne: "Don't worry they started showing donegals two wins too. So you will have plenty to watch. As gearing Armagh proves without doubt that Dublin or Kerry would destroy Donegal for the foreseeable future." Destroy Donegal, you're some craic... I know Dublin are used to destroying your lot now for donkey's years but we will give them a game if it happens. We drew with Kerry in championship last year so I doubt there will be much destruction, I would expect close games if we get that far. No fear of Armagh but I would be more wary of them than Meath, that's for sure.
Donegal_abroad (National) - 04/11/2020 15:46:40
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Best Player From Your County You Ever Seen - 10 Like(s)
Replying To AfricanGael: "Donegal, out in the North West, neglected by Dublin and the only reason it's not part of the UK is because the land wasn't good enough.
No wonder you all have big chips on your shoulders." We don't 'all' have big chips on our shoulders. You have a serious chip about our county in fact with your ongoing posts.
Majority of Donegal people have never given a flying f**k about our proximity to Dublin, or feel the need to be a Dublin-centric satellite county like half of Ireland. Nor do we care much for partition or people like you who seem to enjoy it.
Donegal_abroad (National) - 22/08/2021 10:18:59
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NFL Division 1 - 9 Like(s)
Replying To royaldunne: "You tipping Meath??
How the hell is anyone from either county tipping the other one? No of course not. That's what been a supporter is all about. Believing." I'm tipping Donegal. If we played Dublin I would tip Dublin because logic is also a part of these things. For most people!
Donegal_abroad (National) - 01/02/2020 11:54:19
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Gooch In A World Of His Own - 9 Like(s)
Replying To boman11: "never seen a player like Colm Cooper, an absolute magician on the pitch, I believe he is the greatest but I would love someone to come along and put my mind in doubt.. just a joy to watch someone play with so much class for so many years. The GAA G.O.A.T" You're not from Antrim
Donegal_abroad (National) - 02/08/2019 11:24:28
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Analyst Claims Dubs 'Actually Being Underfunded' - 9 Like(s)
Scrambling for counter-arguments now. Christ almighty. This takes the biscuit. Maybe if the other 31 counties' funding is pitched together, we can help the Dubs survive.
Donegal_abroad (National) - 26/07/2019 19:43:51
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Meath V Dublin Leinster Final. - 8 Like(s)
Replying To royaldunne: "Trust me the league final was a meaningless game, and still needed a disallowed goal to win it, along with dark arts and in the refs ear from Murphy. As the league standing shows Meath topped it. Enough said. I'd worry about Cavan more than this game. I haven't commented once on that game," You're free to comment on the Cavan game, sure who is stopping you? You probably can't find a spare minute as you're so busy putting Meath on a self-created pedestal.
The league final was meaningless because you lost it, if you won it you would be predicting Meath to win the next 3 Sam Maguires so just as well we did win that 'meaningless' game.
Donegal_abroad (National) - 20/06/2019 09:50:14
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All Stars 2019 - 8 Like(s)
Replying To Richieq: "I don't feel clueless and I don't think Murphy was All Star material this year, that's called an opinion not being clueless." I said people who thought Murphy wasn't close are clueless. Maybe you thought it was a close call. Either way, he was the standout player in almost every match he played so I'm not sure what else you need to do to be an All Star. And when people haven't watched games and make baseless, lazy comments then that is a clueless 'opinion.'
Donegal_abroad (National) - 01/11/2019 20:45:36
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NFL Division 1 - 8 Like(s)
Replying To royaldunne: "Strange logic to me. When we play Dublin I'll be tipping Meath. I guess it's different in the non traditional counties." You can tip away at Meath when they play Dublin, you'll be the only man in Ireland doing it now in fairness.
And I think we would have a much greater chance beating Dublin than you traditionalists. Was losing to us 3 times last year part of the tradition?
Donegal_abroad (National) - 01/02/2020 20:24:25
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The GAA And "Northern Ireland" - 7 Like(s)
Replying To bad.monkey: "saying to the other 6, "we got out our freedom, you should stop with the jealousy and bitterness" is a bit of a joke..
Who said this quote? I couldn't see on the thread...did you make it up to argue against ?" " Do you make an effort to look at the Free State point of view...the pride we have in the 26 and the winning of the Civil War. Unfortunately youd swear the losers of the civil war were the goodies judging by the media these days. Iv played against Antrim and Down club teams a few times and they literally had no idea about the complexity of 'down south'. They were more ignorant of us then we were of Northern Ireland."
Read the above type of sentiment and you know perfectly well what I'm on about. It's called deducing what someone is spouting and getting to the heart of their argument. Thanks for your own detailed input or have you little to say.
Donegal_abroad (National) - 28/05/2021 13:00:40
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The Donegal/Armagh Row - 7 Like(s)
Disappointing to see Oisin McConville and Steven McDonnell weighing in on the conspiracy theories. Steven McDonnell in particular, willing to make the claim that Donegal engineered this whole thing but wasn't willing to divulge his theory with any detail. Clearly all trying to build a siege mentality this week based on BS. Not impressed at all with this craic. Anyway, nearly game time so let's hope the game delivers!
Donegal_abroad (National) - 23/04/2022 08:34:08
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Donegal V Armagh - 7 Like(s)
Replying To royaldunne: "No. He had the best Kildare team since O'Dwyer and probably better . Look if Donegal are worried about facing mcgeeney then they can forget about getting anywhere near a all ire. As has been said many times the highest rated team Kildare bet during his time was a Meath team in disarray. Now I think the playing up of a opponent is all well but please only Kerry can get away with cute hoorism." He had the best team or he nurtured the best team ... he had a Kildare team who challenged Dublin properly which is no longer the case. It's not cute hoorism to respect a good manager and a great player. If he's so bad, why are Armagh in division one next year and Meath in division two?
Donegal_abroad (National) - 03/11/2020 18:21:41
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Likely Football Allstars 2019... - 7 Like(s)
Replying To royaldunne: "You see that is only half the story.
Meath ahead of donegal with 55 mins on clock.
Ahead of mayo with 55 min on clock
Ahead of Kerry 55 mins on clock.
Lost to donegal in league very unlucky, topped division 2 table, beat all other teams in division 2.
Roscommon relegated from top flight Meath promoted.
Also kept Dublin to 5 points in 35 minutes. Mostly due to menton keoghan who kept a all star player scoreless and had to be subbed, and McGill also may I add lavin to that to. Most teams in ire would kill for McGill lavin menton and particularly keoghan in their team." If matches lasted 55 minutes you would be All Ireland champions basically?
Donegal_abroad (National) - 28/09/2019 22:12:59
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