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its 4 random draws. 10 teams in championship. The draw was made for round 1. When round one is complete all teams go into the hat and another round of random draws take place. ( of course no repeat games) So you could be drawn against any of the teams. This takes place for four rounds. When the 4 rounds of games are completed the results are put into a league type table and the top 4 are the semi finalists. It adds edge as you must give your all in every game as you don't know who you will have next. Better than the old group system where you might have a game that would be perceived as a banker and winning it, might be enough to get you through to the quarter finals ! StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts: 374 - 04/08/2016 12:21:07 1895351 Link 0 |
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should have listened to myself and put money on it :/ Congratulations Ramor!!
5seniormedals (Cavan) - Posts: 58 - 24/10/2016 10:33:21 1928574 Link 0 |
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Does anyone know who has been relegated from Divisions 1, 2 and 3 in the league? dylan16 (Cavan) - Posts: 1 - 27/10/2016 13:37:20 1929508 Link 0 |
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The very best of luck to all 3 Cavan club teams today. Let's get out on this great day and support them . Breffinifan (Cavan) - Posts: 91 - 30/10/2016 12:25:02 1930159 Link 0 |
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Anybody else find it extremely depressing that all Cavan teams lost today? Terrible terrible day. In fainress to Ramor they went up to Armagh and had a brave go at it. They weren't far away and this young team will be back and today will stand to them. However what can you say about the other two games? Both teams couldn't even compete. blueskies (Cavan) - Posts: 194 - 30/10/2016 16:30:47 1930193 Link 1 |
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Anybody else find it extremely depressing that all Cavan teams lost today? Terrible terrible day. In fainress to Ramor they went up to Armagh and had a brave go at it. They weren't far away and this young team will be back and today will stand to them. However what can you say about the other two games? Both teams couldn't even compete. blueskies (Cavan) - Posts:64 - 30/10/2016 16:30:47 1930193 Well the Junior match was a disaster and Doyle getting sent off did not help. All he had to do was hit the deck when he was struck but instead he decides to the law into his own hand and gave himself a red which the Rock player would have got. They were in fairness being well bet at that stage. Sorry for Ramor had they the two week break I feel would have taken this match. Arva from what I hear were well beaten sadly. I hope that our senior county players now will come up to the mark. The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 30/10/2016 17:16:07 1930208 Link 0 |
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Sorry for Ramor had they the two week break I feel would have taken this match. Arva from what I hear were well beaten sadly. I hope that our senior county players now will come up to the mark. seanorinn (Cavan) - Posts:3130 - 30/10/2016 17:16:07 1930208 A fine example of what the problem is with all club teams beaten today .. Bar Ramor the others were hammered yet let's hope our senior county players come up to the mark .... This is not a go at you Sean but let's be honest most people on this have an expectation that Cavan teams should be challenging for ulsters and then slate TH for not getting the best out of the county side but realistically every year the county champions at each grade get bet out the gate when they go into Ulster ... It's a fair reflection on club v county ... Look at the Dublin champions Mayo champions and these 2 county's will be challenging come the all Ireland Time to wake up and realise that the standard of club football is absolutely shocking and unless it changes I can't see how the senior county team will benefit from it jackser (Meath) - Posts: 37 - 30/10/2016 18:29:30 1930239 Link 0 |
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I don't disagree that the standard of club football is bad in Cavan - has been for years unfortunately. But the link between successful clubs and a successful county team can be overstated - remember, 20 different clubs were represented in the Division 2 final v Tyrone. We have more of a spread of players than most counties. Down made the All Ireland final in 2010 yet haven't won an Ulster club championship since the 80s. St Galls have excellent pedigree at Ulster level yet even when their players did line out for Antrim, they made little progress. Errigal Ciaran are the only Tyrone Ulster winner since 95 with 1 title yet Tyrone have played in 4 All Irelands, winning 3 of them. With the exception of Crossmaglen (a once-in-a-lifetime team) there is very little correlation between successful clubs and a successful county team at Ulster level. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 30/10/2016 19:08:36 1930255 Link 0 |
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far too many clubs in Cavan, and no amount of changing the numbers in each grade will change that fact. All clubs in the county now have great grounds so we will not see any club disappear so amalgamation is the obvious way to go, but that is just not on the agenda. It is so odd to see clubs only too willing to amalgamate at underage level, but be totally opposed to it at adult level. We already know from previous decisions on the structures of the championships that too many clubs would rather see the Junior championship standard stay low and give them a chance of competing for it, than strive for the level to be improved for the betterment of the game in the county, Too many parochial decisions, Too many silly local rivalries and decisions based on this. too many clubs are happy to be and would rather be the best in their area of the county even if that means playing Junior or Intermediate level for years, or being a yoyo senior club, than join forces with other local teams and actually strive to win the senior. eduardo66 (Cavan) - Posts: 64 - 30/10/2016 19:11:11 1930256 Link 0 |
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People are missing the point regarding the problems that are plaguing our club games. It is the complete lack of a figure filled competitive league system, follwed by a championship with knock out games, where every game counts, and county players play! Everyone quotes monaghan as an example - clontibret, doohamlet and cremation are all in 1 parish. Blackhill current junior champions - a couple of small town lands. But week in week out they play "competitive " games, that's what gets them ready. The club scene in cavan has gone soft. We have a watered down league, followed by a further watered down breifne league, then we have a reserve league - and don't get me started the reserve c,ship 1st round was played early July and we are still waiting on round 2! Stop talking "amalgamation " rubbish and give the clubs some proper games with all players playing - then watch the improvement. royalass (Meath) - Posts: 89 - 31/10/2016 18:42:45 1930472 Link 0 |
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The standard was better 8/9 years ago. Ballinagh won Ulster intermediate in 07. Lavey were beaten in Ulster final in 09, Cookstown went on to the all Ireland. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 01/11/2016 11:31:38 1930601 Link 0 |
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players also need to take responsibility...if they want to drink themselves stupid after a win, not much anyone can do.. some teams have the right attitude http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=262657 Maurice and Dan Shanahan were to the fore as their club Lismore pulled off two big wins in less than 48 hours at the weekend. On Friday night, younger brother Maurice scored 2-8 and Dan bagged a brace of goals as Lismore celebrated their return to the senior ranks with a 5-19 to 1-7 victory over Dunhill in the Waterford IHC final in Fraher Field. Lismore were back in action again yesterday in the Munster club IHC, and showing no signs of fatigue, they powered to a 2-20 to 1-12 victory over Bandon of Cork. Maurice bettered his county final tally with a haul of 2-10, while county selector Dan chipped in with 0-2. "The county final win in Waterford was the most important thing at the start of the year because we wanted to go back up senior, but the lads decided on Friday night that they were going to give this everything that was in them," Lismore manager Dave Barry said. wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1680 - 01/11/2016 13:34:07 1930639 Link 0 |
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i wouldn't be overly worried about the club scene. Cavan have got to division 1 ahead of the likes of Galway, Armagh, Derry, Kildare even Antrim. All of which are perceived as having stronger club championships than us. theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 01/11/2016 15:43:32 1930689 Link 0 |
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The top Counties like Mayo, Dublin, Kerry take the provincial Club championship serious, so Cavan shouldn't be looking down at it as if its some type of inconvenience. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 01/11/2016 16:27:00 1930708 Link 0 |
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Agreed. Effectively, one parish represented Cavan in both the Intermediate and Junior competitions in Ulster. In my mind, this is part of the problem. MagicJohnson (Cavan) - Posts: 4 - 06/11/2016 09:58:47 1931992 Link 0 |
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actually Arva and Cornafean only make up two thirds of the Parish, Killeshandra there too, imagine how strong an amalgamation of all three would be if taken serious by all. But it will never happen, for God's sake they can't even agree at underage level, and instead of Cornafean being part of St Joe's its been Drumlane or Kildallon in with Arva/Killeshandra. Petty local squabbles is so much of the problem with Cavan football.
eduardo66 (Cavan) - Posts: 64 - 06/11/2016 11:37:03 1932014 Link 0 |
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And Lacken and Ballinagh are only a stones throw away. 5 Clubs in a small area. It should be 3 max. Mick Hannon made a great reference in the Celt this week to the report carried out by Peter Quinn a few years ago where he recommended that we should be operating from a club base of 34 clubs. His report seems to have fallen on deaf ears. Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 06/11/2016 14:02:16 1932050 Link 1 |
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When the last time a club team from Mayo or Kerry won the senior club title? Dublin clubs take it serious but Kerry and Mayo don't. Check the facts before you write dumb posts
Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 06/11/2016 16:47:30 1932083 Link 0 |
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spot on, but Turkey's don't vote for Christmas, so clubs were never going to take the recommendations of that report seriously. Its decades too late now to try and get clubs to amalgamate to cut the number of clubs in the county, what with all clubs now having great pitches and club rooms etc, We can't get junior/intermediate clubs to take amalgamating for senior championship seriously. If its not the color of the jersey, its the pitch for training, or the pitch for games, or demands for x amount of players to be on the starting 15, there is always some obstacle put in the way. So no chance of clubs ever joining full time to cut the number of clubs. It just won't happen.
eduardo66 (Cavan) - Posts: 64 - 06/11/2016 17:25:06 1932093 Link 0 |
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Mayo clubs don't take it seriously?? Castlebar have lost 2 finals in the last 3 years! No club is going to play right through to Paddy's day of the following year if they're not taking the competition seriously. You really will manipulate any stat you get your hands on to suit your argument. There's a big difference in winning provincial titles (which Mayo and Kerry teams regularly do) and not winning your opening game in Ulster - which Cavan teams rarely manage. I wouldn't like to see any team absolutely dominate our championship, but if Ramor do win next year, I would expect them to their celebrations to be more restrained than this year (understandably) and for them to approach Ulster with realistic designs on winning it. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 07/11/2016 10:59:38 1932294 Link 0 |