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Scoring System in Gaelic Football

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Watching the International Rules Test - Ireland V Australia - it struck me that down the years, those that have wanted to incorporate some of the rules used in that game into Gaelic Football have missed the obvious, forget the mark, forget the tackle, forget the double hop (although I think this would be a great help in stopping players getting surrounded so much in our game, -- the one rule we should try out, and it would be going back to something that was in the GAA decades ago, an extra set of goal posts. Bring in the six pts for a goal, 3 for an over the bar and 1 for between the extra set of posts.

How many times do we see in games full of mass defenses an attacker get a kick away from a difficult angle, say near the corner or from well out on the wing, but go narrowly wide, it just encourages the packed defense, but if a point was scored from these positions on a regular basis it would be a downer for the defense and a real boost for the attacking side. Defenders would have to spread out more, to cover the wider shooting or scoring zone.

so a simple adding of an extra set of posts could change the game big time for the better, and yet still have basically the same game. Not some hybrid like the International rules game. Surely something as simple as this could be tried out.
From what I have seen with the proposals on the table it seems they want to make Gaelic Football a scaled down version of the International Rules game.

eduardo66 (Cavan) - Posts: 64 - 21/11/2015 21:11:31    1808925

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An extra set of posts would be a great idea. Maybe we could put them on moving rails where they could follow the ball as it was going wide

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 22/11/2015 11:13:20    1808952

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It probably wouldn't really change anything. Defenders would do the same thing as they are doing now. As it stands, defenders bunch up to force the forward to hit it wide, in order to prevent them from scoring 1. If your system was implemented, any defender with 2 brain cells would realise that conceding 1 point is preferable to conceding 3, so they would gang up to choke out the attacker in order to force him to shoot for the 1 pointer. There would be no spreading out or anything of the sort.

I know you could easily push it up to 9, but would 6 points for a goal not remove the incentive to score goals? Currently a goal is triple the value of a point, whereas under this system it's only be double.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1409 - 22/11/2015 19:11:53    1809062

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the point is that the extra scoring area means that the shooting area for forwards is greater, the chances of getting at least a point from a shot goes up, so it would make defenders have to cover a bigger area and so be more spread out. the 3 points for an over would also mean that this would also result in teams having to attack more, as leads could be wiped out so much easier and quicker. and again I would say having the safeguard of getting a point if you narrowly miss the over, would give forwards more confidence in shooting, we would see a lot less of this over and back, in and out passing and passing and passing, retaining possession as its all about kicking from scoring zones.

eduardo66 (Cavan) - Posts: 64 - 22/11/2015 20:37:08    1809089

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After watching the game on Saturday night the one rule that might be worth looking at would be the kick-out having to cross the 45 m line... It would get rid of all these boreing short kick outs and lend itself to more high fielding around center field.. The one thing that should never be introduced is the 'mark' as it would slow down the game to walking pace..but knowing the GAA as I do they will most likely do the total wrong thing..!!!

Sean66 (Cavan) - Posts: 440 - 23/11/2015 18:32:05    1809338

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The scoring area would increase alright, but the value of the score you'd get is reduced by 2 thirds, so it cancels out the advantage really. Defenders probably wont lose much sleep if they're not able to defend against 1 pointers, since any can easily get a 1 pointer back. Any player could score a 1 pointer just by loafing the ball into the general goal area from 50m. Closer to the goals though defenders will still gang up to choke a teams attackers out, and stop them from scoring 3 pointers, as these will be more difficult to get back.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1409 - 23/11/2015 19:45:29    1809360

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i don't think you should be rewarded for "missing" the goals. If you can't hit a point in the current set-up then tough. Also what I see as unfair at the moment is this. If you hit the ball under the crossbar it's 3 points, if you hit it over the bar it's 1 point but if you actually strike the crossbar it's nothing, surely it should be 2 points.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5367 - 11/12/2015 13:43:50    1812659

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Good man S Golderick lets start banging it off the crossbar!

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 13/12/2015 10:21:27    1812811

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if it hits the bar and goes in, do you get 5points and if it goes over do you get 3? what about the posts, shouldn't they be included. I remember erne isle from dublin, in the club all ireland semi final, hitting the post, the ball bounced into the goals, across and hit the other post and came out,,they got the 3 points but would have been some haul to get the 7points it deserved! If the ball hit's the bar or post and comes back into play, do you play on or take a kick out?

wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1495 - 13/12/2015 12:13:14    1812816

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I wouldn't think S Golderick could be any way serious with his last post. He must be having a laugh! I wonder if the ball came back of the crossbar and was punched to the net would you get 1-2?

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 13/12/2015 12:38:58    1812818

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