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Any idea what the panel is going to be, the Examiner this morning is saying a number of players have been dropped from the panel but none of those involved in final last year included. Is John Kiely trying to bring forward a number of last years U20's?
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Replying To Doylerwex: "I fancy us to win leinster to be honest.
Ye are the only team I don't think we can beat on a given day no matter what happens.
It's the time of the season for optimism so I'm hoping Galway, Waterford, Clare or kilkenny can produce a miracle performance and take ye out at some stage.
Enjoy the group ye have. It is amazing and deserved, but will at some point come to an end.
We probably have a golden generation(by our recent standards) that is not going to win the top prize." Like the 70s again. I think we are better placed as regards underage structures and initiatives like hurling 365 than we have ever been though. I'm alot more optimistic about the future now than I was 10 or 15 years ago.
Limerick are 10 years ahead of us as regards those structures and I'm pretty sure they will have the talent to be competitive long after the current team retires. There certainly won't be another 45 year drought.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11847 - 31/01/2023 10:02:46
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Replying To Viking66: "Like the 70s again. I think we are better placed as regards underage structures and initiatives like hurling 365 than we have ever been though. I'm alot more optimistic about the future now than I was 10 or 15 years ago.
Limerick are 10 years ahead of us as regards those structures and I'm pretty sure they will have the talent to be competitive long after the current team retires. There certainly won't be another 45 year drought." At least the 1970's had Tipp in a nice place. The Home of Hurling, eh?
foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1910 - 31/01/2023 11:40:48
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Replying To higgins: "Any idea what the panel is going to be, the Examiner this morning is saying a number of players have been dropped from the panel but none of those involved in final last year included. Is John Kiely trying to bring forward a number of last years U20's?" I'm told that O'Connell, Duff, Hanley and Pat Ryan are gone off it. If that's true - I'm very surprised by the second two and not at all surprised by the first two. I haven't heard who are the additions but I'd love to see the panel listing
Dealer (Limerick) - Posts: 835 - 31/01/2023 15:02:09
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Replying To Dealer: "I'm told that O'Connell, Duff, Hanley and Pat Ryan are gone off it. If that's true - I'm very surprised by the second two and not at all surprised by the first two. I haven't heard who are the additions but I'd love to see the panel listing" Was Pat Ryan not already dropped?
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 31/01/2023 16:59:44
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Replying To Bon: "Was Pat Ryan not already dropped?" Dropped middle of last year was called back in again after that.
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Dropped middle of last year was called back in again after that." Ah right thanks. Didn't know he was called back in after that. Always thought he was a class player.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 31/01/2023 20:39:52
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Replying To foreveryoung: "At least the 1970's had Tipp in a nice place. The Home of Hurling, eh?" Was in one all Ireland in the 70's and one Munster. How many were the USA in?
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 01/02/2023 11:05:35
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Strong team named. Barry Murphy midfield against Cork is an interesting selection.
skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1062 - 02/02/2023 21:47:13
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https://limerickgaa.ie/limerick-senior-hurling-team-and-match-panel-for-their-opening-round-game-of-the-allianz-hurling-league-v-cork-is-released/
Strong enough Limerick team named for Cork match Saturday night, Cian Lynch on bench.
OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 672 - 03/02/2023 09:22:56
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I'm delighted to see fellas who have been part of panel for 3/4 years get a chance..play them,plenty of game time and see are they up to challenging the players everyone expects to start..big night for Dave mc carthy,was very impressive on 21 team and now an oppurtunity to be very solid back up to Nicky..looking forward to seeing Murphy at midfield,good hurler and more space just might suit him..cork have named a strong starting 15 to..has making of a very good game..
CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2215 - 03/02/2023 12:28:06
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Replying To CTGAA10: "I'm delighted to see fellas who have been part of panel for 3/4 years get a chance..play them,plenty of game time and see are they up to challenging the players everyone expects to start..big night for Dave mc carthy,was very impressive on 21 team and now an oppurtunity to be very solid back up to Nicky..looking forward to seeing Murphy at midfield,good hurler and more space just might suit him..cork have named a strong starting 15 to..has making of a very good game.." Is Jason Gillane still involved as a goalkeeper with the senior panel?
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 03/02/2023 21:46:10
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Replying To Bon: "Is Jason Gillane still involved as a goalkeeper with the senior panel?" Was playing Fitzgibbon for Mary I til they were knocked out. Not sure if he's on the Limerick panel Bon.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11847 - 04/02/2023 08:07:17
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Based on what I saw last night, I'm convinced that John Kiely has no interest at all in winning league games, If he did, he wouldn't have made the substitutions that he made last night as he clearly weakened the team. As a seasoned observer of Limerick hurling said to me - Cork won but Limerick learnt.
I was very pleased with the displays of a number of the senior players particularly in the first half. Declan Hannon was excellent and Cork could not cope with Gearoid Hegarty. I thought that Colm Coughlan and Barry Murphy did well and Adam English was decent. I felt that Aaron Costello really struggled and that Dave McCarthy needs to do a lot of work on his puck outs. It was great to get Cian Lynch back on the pitch even though he did very little when he was on it. But that's not the point. He's back.
JK gave a few new players a run out as subs who mostly struggled but he and we are finding out who has it and who doesn't. That's valuable intelligence for down the line. Also Shane O'Brien needs at least 12 months in the senior panel before any kind of judgement can be made on him. Right now, I think he's going to be a special player but he needs to build up his physical base.
It was a very expensive win for Cork if Robbie O'Flynn is as badly injured as I fear that he is. The instant reaction of Sean Finn and the Limerick backs was that it was a bad injury. To me, he was Cork's best player on the night so a huge loss if he's out for a sustained period of time.
It's none of my business, but I don't think it's a good thing for Cork to have Patrick Horgan picking up a MoM gong in a league match. I don't know how they expect him to be better this year than last year. Surely, they would be better off giving that extent of game time to some of their younger and bigger forwards? But that's not our problem.
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Replying To Dealer: "Based on what I saw last night, I'm convinced that John Kiely has no interest at all in winning league games, If he did, he wouldn't have made the substitutions that he made last night as he clearly weakened the team. As a seasoned observer of Limerick hurling said to me - Cork won but Limerick learnt.
I was very pleased with the displays of a number of the senior players particularly in the first half. Declan Hannon was excellent and Cork could not cope with Gearoid Hegarty. I thought that Colm Coughlan and Barry Murphy did well and Adam English was decent. I felt that Aaron Costello really struggled and that Dave McCarthy needs to do a lot of work on his puck outs. It was great to get Cian Lynch back on the pitch even though he did very little when he was on it. But that's not the point. He's back.
JK gave a few new players a run out as subs who mostly struggled but he and we are finding out who has it and who doesn't. That's valuable intelligence for down the line. Also Shane O'Brien needs at least 12 months in the senior panel before any kind of judgement can be made on him. Right now, I think he's going to be a special player but he needs to build up his physical base.
It was a very expensive win for Cork if Robbie O'Flynn is as badly injured as I fear that he is. The instant reaction of Sean Finn and the Limerick backs was that it was a bad injury. To me, he was Cork's best player on the night so a huge loss if he's out for a sustained period of time.
It's none of my business, but I don't think it's a good thing for Cork to have Patrick Horgan picking up a MoM gong in a league match. I don't know how they expect him to be better this year than last year. Surely, they would be better off giving that extent of game time to some of their younger and bigger forwards? But that's not our problem." Agree with a lot of that Dealer. I left very happy last night with what I saw and what Kiely will have taken from it. I didn't see anything last year in the league of the quality at times Limerick showed in the opening half. Hegarty anytime he decided to make a sustained effort was on a different level. He was unmarkable. I felt the plan was to get minutes into Finn Dan Reidy Murphy DoD and the rest was a learning exercise. He knows that there is a significant drop off in certain areas of the field and the overall plan will now be in deciding plan B plan C accordingly if required. Limerick clearly ran out of gas towards the end but they're only on the field a couple of weeks and at the end realistically had perhaps 4 maybe 5 certain starters that'll be there in April realistically.
Hannon went off after 48 minutes with a bad cut to the finger which was precautionary. Again he's very important to the whole structure of that back line. Limerick weren't as fluid coming out with the ball with him as the fulcrum not there. Hego getting pulled after 50 mins again was kiely seeing enough. I liked a lot of what I saw. Dan was immense Hannon when he was on the pitch.. DoD was good coming out with ball and Murphy grew into the game and ended up putting in a huge shift. Hego was playing a different sport to everyone else and Tom actually looks a bit fitter than last year. Richie Costello O Reilly all struggled at times I felt but tried their hearts out.
Mccarthy was inconsistent for me. Huge Match for him and I thought he did a lot right. His puck out from 15-50 yards were on the money. The longer distances he just wasn't getting the ball to the target in time. He needs to get stronger and striking needs to be more consistent
He'll learn a world off nicky over the next couple of years and has the tools to get there if he really wants it. We are blessed with Quaid and as I've said repeatedly Limerick most important player
With Quaid, Mike casey, Nash, Byrnes, WoD, Hayes, Gillane, Peter Casey, Lynch, Cathal o Neill and Conor Boylan all to come back in over the next few weeks and still clip 0-16 from 20 shots in the 1st half was impressive. The 2nd half was a bit ragged and only for an uncharacteristic sitter missed by mul To go 3 up Limerick would have won that match. Kiely saw a lot last night and will be starting to piece together the panel in his head. I see a good bit more experimentation next Saturday evening v clare too.
It was a great match last night and the atmosphere was great for 1st weekend in February. It was very disappointing to hear the chorus of boos that welcomed a 2 time HOTY onto the pitch after 2 nasty injuries. Cian spent 40 mins after the match in his gear in the cold signing autographs to cork kids and standing in photos for them.
Anyway great to have hurling back and I was very pleased to see where we are so early on. They'll take some stopping again.
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Replying To daveboy: "Agree with a lot of that Dealer. I left very happy last night with what I saw and what Kiely will have taken from it. I didn't see anything last year in the league of the quality at times Limerick showed in the opening half. Hegarty anytime he decided to make a sustained effort was on a different level. He was unmarkable. I felt the plan was to get minutes into Finn Dan Reidy Murphy DoD and the rest was a learning exercise. He knows that there is a significant drop off in certain areas of the field and the overall plan will now be in deciding plan B plan C accordingly if required. Limerick clearly ran out of gas towards the end but they're only on the field a couple of weeks and at the end realistically had perhaps 4 maybe 5 certain starters that'll be there in April realistically.
Hannon went off after 48 minutes with a bad cut to the finger which was precautionary. Again he's very important to the whole structure of that back line. Limerick weren't as fluid coming out with the ball with him as the fulcrum not there. Hego getting pulled after 50 mins again was kiely seeing enough. I liked a lot of what I saw. Dan was immense Hannon when he was on the pitch.. DoD was good coming out with ball and Murphy grew into the game and ended up putting in a huge shift. Hego was playing a different sport to everyone else and Tom actually looks a bit fitter than last year. Richie Costello O Reilly all struggled at times I felt but tried their hearts out.
Mccarthy was inconsistent for me. Huge Match for him and I thought he did a lot right. His puck out from 15-50 yards were on the money. The longer distances he just wasn't getting the ball to the target in time. He needs to get stronger and striking needs to be more consistent
He'll learn a world off nicky over the next couple of years and has the tools to get there if he really wants it. We are blessed with Quaid and as I've said repeatedly Limerick most important player
With Quaid, Mike casey, Nash, Byrnes, WoD, Hayes, Gillane, Peter Casey, Lynch, Cathal o Neill and Conor Boylan all to come back in over the next few weeks and still clip 0-16 from 20 shots in the 1st half was impressive. The 2nd half was a bit ragged and only for an uncharacteristic sitter missed by mul To go 3 up Limerick would have won that match. Kiely saw a lot last night and will be starting to piece together the panel in his head. I see a good bit more experimentation next Saturday evening v clare too.
It was a great match last night and the atmosphere was great for 1st weekend in February. It was very disappointing to hear the chorus of boos that welcomed a 2 time HOTY onto the pitch after 2 nasty injuries. Cian spent 40 mins after the match in his gear in the cold signing autographs to cork kids and standing in photos for them.
Anyway great to have hurling back and I was very pleased to see where we are so early on. They'll take some stopping again." I entirely agree. Our levels in the league last year were away below what we saw last night. We were downright awful in a number of those games last year so they've come back in much better shape. I would expect significant experimentation right throughout the league as JK will look to give himself as many options as possible and will give every player in the panel an opportunity to show their worth.
Even just based off of the minimal evidence of last night - Limerick will be the team to beat again. But we won't be anywhere near the league final which I'm guessing will be contested by 2 Leinster counties.
Dealer (Limerick) - Posts: 835 - 05/02/2023 17:03:44
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Replying To Dealer: "I entirely agree. Our levels in the league last year were away below what we saw last night. We were downright awful in a number of those games last year so they've come back in much better shape. I would expect significant experimentation right throughout the league as JK will look to give himself as many options as possible and will give every player in the panel an opportunity to show their worth.
Even just based off of the minimal evidence of last night - Limerick will be the team to beat again. But we won't be anywhere near the league final which I'm guessing will be contested by 2 Leinster counties." I'd be predicting a Waterford v Tipp final myself.
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I think kiely and supporters will be happy with that. Big names looking sharp. Hannon, Finn, Hegarty all looking sharp and very good in the first half. I thought DOD went well at midfield. When they hit their straps at times in the first half they still looked a better team than Cork.
Only negative is no one really putting up their hand to force their way into the starting team. These games may be the only chance for some players to get in this year. Cork got a lot of joy down the same side. Both are young but would love to see either Adam English or O'Brien give Kiely thought for a start inside come championship.
Lots of work to do and they'll probably train hard during the week. Looking forward to the Clare game next week, I think Clare might want a win a bit more than us and I think they could go far this year. Surprised to hear some pundits tipping the likes of Waterford and Tipp to come out of Munster ahead of them, I think they will be right in the mix.
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I thought Barry Murphy did ok. Worth another look as midfield option
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Replying To Fitzy01: "I think kiely and supporters will be happy with that. Big names looking sharp. Hannon, Finn, Hegarty all looking sharp and very good in the first half. I thought DOD went well at midfield. When they hit their straps at times in the first half they still looked a better team than Cork.
Only negative is no one really putting up their hand to force their way into the starting team. These games may be the only chance for some players to get in this year. Cork got a lot of joy down the same side. Both are young but would love to see either Adam English or O'Brien give Kiely thought for a start inside come championship.
Lots of work to do and they'll probably train hard during the week. Looking forward to the Clare game next week, I think Clare might want a win a bit more than us and I think they could go far this year. Surprised to hear some pundits tipping the likes of Waterford and Tipp to come out of Munster ahead of them, I think they will be right in the mix." Of course we had a few missing like Quaid, Mike Casey, Nash, (CFHOTY0 Byrnes, (Hoty)) O'Donoghue, Hayes,(CFHOTY) Gullane, Lynch (2HOTY) and P. Casey/Mulcahy.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 05/02/2023 21:52:18
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