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Replying To DuhallowRed: " Replying To brisbane: "[quote=KillingFields: "judging from some of the posters here in this forum there are plenty of them in here too. Complete sheep who follow the (fake left) media and the government who take every word as they say as complete truth.
preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 483 - 21/10/2020 12:56:28 hahahahahahaha
Is your tinfoil hat ok...." KillingFields is clearly Anti GAA. KillingFields is either a troll or hired by hoganstand to create debate."
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3495 - 21/10/2020 15:56:40
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I have no time for rugby myself KillingFields but I'm not saying it should be stopped as I believe their is little risk in the actual playing of these sports. It's just rugby like GAA has a risk when it involves travelling and rugby has a lot more travelling around for 6 Nations games and the Pro whatever it is now with European Cup to come. I know their tested and isolated as much as possible but if you read the Examiner on Monday they had an article about Fermanagh playing in Clare last weekend as they were also separated and keeping their distance. I'm sure all GAA teams are doing this but at the moment the 'the Frightened Panicking mob' is out to shut it down. I'm sure you and all rugby fans are looking forward to the 6 Nations as a get away from all the bad news and GAA fans are likewise but the Joe Duffy and the gang smell blood.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 398 - 21/10/2020 15:19:59And the players are in bubbles. Chartering their own planes. Will have limited movement when they do travel....
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3495 - 21/10/2020 15:57:41
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Replying To DUALSUPPORT: "I wouldn't describe it as "the Dublin media" these media outlets might be based in Dublin alright but as another poster highlighted alot of these journalists could be orginally from outside Dublin. But certainly there is an upper middle-class yuppie liberal mentality in Irish media and in most sports sections rugby is given a favourable bias. The GAA no doubt has its issues and I would criticise them when it's deserved but I think myself they want to get games going for players and supporters if possible. The GAA has also shown it is willing to cancel activities if required also. We all want games but nobody in the GAA circles want players at risk for it and I believe if there is a couple of breakouts of covid19 in a few different panels or severe increase levels of covid around the country games will be postponed or cancelled." True in that Joe Molloy is a Kildare man who's family are from Silgo. Joe Molloy works for virgin Rugby and Off the ball Rugby newstalk. Joe went ranting on air and on twitter calling for the GAA season to be cancelled this is a direct attack on the GAA organisation by Rugby media. Vodapone "team of us" put a lot of money into Irish rugby and wont be too happy to see direct competition over the next few weeks they heavily involved in Off the ball newstalk.
brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 674 - 21/10/2020 15:58:26
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A lot of the new Sinn Fein crowd in the south are very WOKE . They hate anyone who goes to the church or supports the GAA . Hard to know how that will suit the traditional Sinn Fein folk particularly in the north
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Replying To brisbane: "True in that Joe Molloy is a Kildare man who's family are from Silgo. Joe Molloy works for virgin Rugby and Off the ball Rugby newstalk. Joe went ranting on air and on twitter calling for the GAA season to be cancelled this is a direct attack on the GAA organisation by Rugby media. Vodapone "team of us" put a lot of money into Irish rugby and wont be too happy to see direct competition over the next few weeks they heavily involved in Off the ball newstalk." Molly's Dad is a Mayoman. Before he took the TV job he was clueless on rugby, still is in many ways. He's more of a soccer and golf man. Don't let the truth get in the way of your lies.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7335 - 21/10/2020 16:18:25
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Replying To brisbane: " Replying To KillingFields: "judging from some of the posters here in this forum there are plenty of them in here too. Complete sheep who follow the (fake left) media and the government who take every word as they say as complete truth.
preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 483 - 21/10/2020 12:56:28 hahahahahahaha
Is your tinfoil hat ok...." KillingFields is clearly Anti GAA. KillingFields is either a troll or hired by hoganstand to create debate."
That said, it is nice to have some Munster rugby fans on this platform. I am a big Premier league football fan. Who nearly always watches Match of the Day.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 21/10/2020 16:24:38
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Is there anything to be said for a shared All Ireland this year. Let us say that on All Ireland final day a storm is forecast. Met Eireann Orange level, no travel recommended. Should the game go ahead. How about just sharing the title. It to me is a nice "amateur" idea. Both counties would get the cup for 6 months.
This is just an idea, and is looking at say a Covid surge in December, or a massive storm, with a status Red warning.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 21/10/2020 16:29:00
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Replying To KillingFields: "No they dont. They just wouldnt care. Theyre far more concerned with their own sports and all thats going on with them
What is traditional culture anyway?
No there isnt anti nationalist thought. Paranoid much?" No they are not......just look at all the comments on social media over past 48 hrs....look at the profiles of the people commenting LoI fans, rugby fans etc all in a sustained attack on GAA due to its popularity ......
The chip on the shoulder of these people about the GAA is immense even the way the refer to it as bog ball and stick fighting thinking they are cool and hip when actually they are simply trying to ape a colonial power that tramped their people into the ground for generations ......
ArmaghCat (Armagh) - Posts: 86 - 21/10/2020 16:35:44
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I'm GAA first and foremost but have more than an interest in other sports including soccer and rugby. This means I read and follow the media attached to all sports and make no mistake the current campaign is nothing to do with Covid.
Irish rugby is a farce; we're brainwashed into thinking the international rugby team touches every community in Ireland and we're one of the top international teams with a chance of becoming world champions. It's a complete farce; yes the team do fairly well; winning a few 6 nations in the years post world cup when all other nations are in transition planning for the next world cup year. Look at Ireland's record in WC years or at the WC itself; this is the only year every team is at peak and the same level of preparation and we're a very poor international team.
Soccer to be fair is a national sport that genuinely touches every community in Ireland; our soccer team is poor but there is nothing like a successful international team - it doesn't happen often but the vast majority of the country feel genuine warmth to working class guys representing us and get behind it as a country.
The mainstream media has been taken over by rugby fanatics; very much linked to the governments trying to make everything in the country middle class. There is a campaign to make rugby our national sport, it's all positive reports; nothing negative and after each awful WC year everything goes back how great rugby is.
Yes Munster rugby touches working class areas but it will never be a national sport like the GAA or soccer. GAA in particular gets bad press from the media as I suspect they see us as more of a competitor.
To the GAA people out there let the negativety and GAA bashing continue, they'll never achieve what they're trying to do as the GAA breaks down every class system and is the true national sport of Ireland no matter how much the rugby press dislike it.
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True in that Joe Molloy is a Kildare man who's family are from Silgo. Joe Molloy works for virgin Rugby and Off the ball Rugby newstalk. Joe went ranting on air and on twitter calling for the GAA season to be cancelled this is a direct attack on the GAA organisation by Rugby media. Vodapone "team of us" put a lot of money into Irish rugby and wont be too happy to see direct competition over the next few weeks they heavily involved in Off the ball newstalk.
brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 448 - 21/10/2020 15:58:26Off the Ball covers all sports. He isnt rugby media. He is a sports journalist. Covers GAA and everything else with OTB.
Molly's Dad is a Mayoman. Before he took the TV job he was clueless on rugby, still is in many ways. He's more of a soccer and golf man. Don't let the truth get in the way of your lies.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5851 - 21/10/2020 16:18:25 Wouldnt say clueless on rugby but far from the best.
He is from Limerick and is a big Munster rugby fan. His name- Killing fields, refers to a D4 rugby term for Limerick rugby. Limerick are not good at Gaelic football, they are in division 4. He is focally anti Gaelic football.
That said, it is nice to have some Munster rugby fans on this platform. I am a big Premier league football fan. Who nearly always watches Match of the Day.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1887 - 21/10/2020 16:24:38Im not anti gaelic football but do think the rule book needs drastic overhaul. What "D4 rugby term" (whats a d4 rugby term anyway?) did i use?
No they are not......just look at all the comments on social media over past 48 hrs....look at the profiles of the people commenting LoI fans, rugby fans etc all in a sustained attack on GAA due to its popularity ......
The chip on the shoulder of these people about the GAA is immense even the way the refer to it as bog ball and stick fighting thinking they are cool and hip when actually they are simply trying to ape a colonial power that tramped their people into the ground for generations ......
ArmaghCat (Armagh) - Posts: 49 - 21/10/2020 16:35:44 hahahaha do you have links to all these comments that are anti gaa?
Care to show on many main rugby forums that people use terms such as bog ball and stick fighting?
I'm GAA first and foremost but have more than an interest in other sports including soccer and rugby. This means I read and follow the media attached to all sports and make no mistake the current campaign is nothing to do with Covid.
Irish rugby is a farce; we're brainwashed into thinking the international rugby team touches every community in Ireland and we're one of the top international teams with a chance of becoming world champions. It's a complete farce; yes the team do fairly well; winning a few 6 nations in the years post world cup when all other nations are in transition planning for the next world cup year. Look at Ireland's record in WC years or at the WC itself; this is the only year every team is at peak and the same level of preparation and we're a very poor international team.
Soccer to be fair is a national sport that genuinely touches every community in Ireland; our soccer team is poor but there is nothing like a successful international team - it doesn't happen often but the vast majority of the country feel genuine warmth to working class guys representing us and get behind it as a country.
The mainstream media has been taken over by rugby fanatics; very much linked to the governments trying to make everything in the country middle class. There is a campaign to make rugby our national sport, it's all positive reports; nothing negative and after each awful WC year everything goes back how great rugby is.
Yes Munster rugby touches working class areas but it will never be a national sport like the GAA or soccer. GAA in particular gets bad press from the media as I suspect they see us as more of a competitor.
To the GAA people out there let the negativety and GAA bashing continue, they'll never achieve what they're trying to do as the GAA breaks down every class system and is the true national sport of Ireland no matter how much the rugby press dislike it.
sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 637 - 21/10/2020 16:48:20 The only farcical thing is this post.
You are going back to using the old insults that others have used countless times before and its been shown to be incorrect. Yes the mens rugby team have failed at world cups. Theres no arguing that but saying the 6 nations wins etc are just when the opposition is in transition is just plain lies.
Going on about mainstream media being taken over is very near jim corr/gemma o doherty paranoia levels.
The negativity the GAA receives in the media comes from the so called gaa people more than anyone else in particular the gaa only writers. that isnt the fault of anyone but the GAA itself.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3495 - 21/10/2020 17:06:28
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Replying To ArmaghCat: "No they are not......just look at all the comments on social media over past 48 hrs....look at the profiles of the people commenting LoI fans, rugby fans etc all in a sustained attack on GAA due to its popularity ......
The chip on the shoulder of these people about the GAA is immense even the way the refer to it as bog ball and stick fighting thinking they are cool and hip when actually they are simply trying to ape a colonial power that tramped their people into the ground for generations ......" Social media? Hoganstand forum is social media with loads of fake accounts. Pay no heed to social media. Now Daily Mirror holding off the Moycullen GAA party and putting it on the front page the day before the league starts? That's definitely anti-GAA, done because their journalists are shi+e and they're trying to cause some controversy to sell a few more rags. They're best ignored too.
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I am torn between thinking it should all be cancelled or it should go ahead. Calling it anti gaa is nonsense. A small group of begrudgers for sure will knock the GAA but there are legitimate concerns here.
And most of the begrudging is coming from the amount of cases traced back to county final celebrations. So the GAA are reaping what they sow as they were outraged at the initial proposals a while back.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7885 - 21/10/2020 17:17:09
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Replying To TheFlaker: "I am torn between thinking it should all be cancelled or it should go ahead. Calling it anti gaa is nonsense. A small group of begrudgers for sure will knock the GAA but there are legitimate concerns here.
And most of the begrudging is coming from the amount of cases traced back to county final celebrations. So the GAA are reaping what they sow as they were outraged at the initial proposals a while back." This decision to play is full of bear traps or pitfalls. Let us say the All Ireland semis are due to take place in say a category red storm warning. What kind of hurling can take place in that. Or the final is due to take place with an Orange level weather warning. What happens. Personally I am of the belief that a shared All Ireland, in the covid 19 circumstances of 2020 is a way to go. GAA is an amateur sport. So it would not be legal action.
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Replying To TheFlaker: "I am torn between thinking it should all be cancelled or it should go ahead. Calling it anti gaa is nonsense. A small group of begrudgers for sure will knock the GAA but there are legitimate concerns here.
And most of the begrudging is coming from the amount of cases traced back to county final celebrations. So the GAA are reaping what they sow as they were outraged at the initial proposals a while back." If the GAA should be called off because of county final celebrations then you are missing the real issue here which is Irish peoples deadly love affair with drink. If these fans weren't celebrating GAA victories they would have found another reason for a p##s up. So cancel the 6 Nations in case the Team of Us(eless) manage to win it because there will be big outbreaks in D4, private schools and Dundrum shopping centre.
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Replying To updwell: "If the GAA should be called off because of county final celebrations then you are missing the real issue here which is Irish peoples deadly love affair with drink. If these fans weren't celebrating GAA victories they would have found another reason for a p##s up. So cancel the 6 Nations in case the Team of Us(eless) manage to win it because there will be big outbreaks in D4, private schools and Dundrum shopping centre." Not missing the point at all. I said the anti GAA brigade are pointing at the confirmed outbreaks from these celebrations which included the sharing of parties on social media as a reason for people having a pop at the GAA.
I am praying the championship can go ahead. I am simply pointing out why there is opposition to it. You also have a huge number of players who are saying they are not comfortable with it going ahead.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7885 - 21/10/2020 19:25:30
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Replying To KillingFields: "True in that Joe Molloy is a Kildare man who's family are from Silgo. Joe Molloy works for virgin Rugby and Off the ball Rugby newstalk. Joe went ranting on air and on twitter calling for the GAA season to be cancelled this is a direct attack on the GAA organisation by Rugby media. Vodapone "team of us" put a lot of money into Irish rugby and wont be too happy to see direct competition over the next few weeks they heavily involved in Off the ball newstalk.
brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 448 - 21/10/2020 15:58:26Off the Ball covers all sports. He isnt rugby media. He is a sports journalist. Covers GAA and everything else with OTB.
Molly's Dad is a Mayoman. Before he took the TV job he was clueless on rugby, still is in many ways. He's more of a soccer and golf man. Don't let the truth get in the way of your lies.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5851 - 21/10/2020 16:18:25 Wouldnt say clueless on rugby but far from the best.
He is from Limerick and is a big Munster rugby fan. His name- Killing fields, refers to a D4 rugby term for Limerick rugby. Limerick are not good at Gaelic football, they are in division 4. He is focally anti Gaelic football.
That said, it is nice to have some Munster rugby fans on this platform. I am a big Premier league football fan. Who nearly always watches Match of the Day.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1887 - 21/10/2020 16:24:38Im not anti gaelic football but do think the rule book needs drastic overhaul. What "D4 rugby term" (whats a d4 rugby term anyway?) did i use?
No they are not......just look at all the comments on social media over past 48 hrs....look at the profiles of the people commenting LoI fans, rugby fans etc all in a sustained attack on GAA due to its popularity ......
The chip on the shoulder of these people about the GAA is immense even the way the refer to it as bog ball and stick fighting thinking they are cool and hip when actually they are simply trying to ape a colonial power that tramped their people into the ground for generations ......
ArmaghCat (Armagh) - Posts: 49 - 21/10/2020 16:35:44 hahahaha do you have links to all these comments that are anti gaa?
Care to show on many main rugby forums that people use terms such as bog ball and stick fighting?
I'm GAA first and foremost but have more than an interest in other sports including soccer and rugby. This means I read and follow the media attached to all sports and make no mistake the current campaign is nothing to do with Covid.
Irish rugby is a farce; we're brainwashed into thinking the international rugby team touches every community in Ireland and we're one of the top international teams with a chance of becoming world champions. It's a complete farce; yes the team do fairly well; winning a few 6 nations in the years post world cup when all other nations are in transition planning for the next world cup year. Look at Ireland's record in WC years or at the WC itself; this is the only year every team is at peak and the same level of preparation and we're a very poor international team.
Soccer to be fair is a national sport that genuinely touches every community in Ireland; our soccer team is poor but there is nothing like a successful international team - it doesn't happen often but the vast majority of the country feel genuine warmth to working class guys representing us and get behind it as a country.
The mainstream media has been taken over by rugby fanatics; very much linked to the governments trying to make everything in the country middle class. There is a campaign to make rugby our national sport, it's all positive reports; nothing negative and after each awful WC year everything goes back how great rugby is.
Yes Munster rugby touches working class areas but it will never be a national sport like the GAA or soccer. GAA in particular gets bad press from the media as I suspect they see us as more of a competitor.
To the GAA people out there let the negativety and GAA bashing continue, they'll never achieve what they're trying to do as the GAA breaks down every class system and is the true national sport of Ireland no matter how much the rugby press dislike it.
sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 637 - 21/10/2020 16:48:20 The only farcical thing is this post.
You are going back to using the old insults that others have used countless times before and its been shown to be incorrect. Yes the mens rugby team have failed at world cups. Theres no arguing that but saying the 6 nations wins etc are just when the opposition is in transition is just plain lies.
Going on about mainstream media being taken over is very near jim corr/gemma o doherty paranoia levels.
The negativity the GAA receives in the media comes from the so called gaa people more than anyone else in particular the gaa only writers. that isnt the fault of anyone but the GAA itself." The coverage of rugby in Ireland is farcical. I actually played rugby for the first team of my university even though I never played it until I went there, level was AIB Div 2. One of lads on the team went on to play for Munster and win 6 nations. The out half was kiwi ( I got involved as i lived with him and didn't make Sigerson panel so said I'd give rugby a go) that went on to play for Munster and Newcastle.
I remember thinking that the standard of athleticism was akin to Junior football in Meath and this was the 2nd division for the whole country. It's a minority sport with small playing numbers. I've no doubt Brian O Driscoll was a very good athlete but his achievements come nowhere near to a Sheamus Coleman for eg playing at highest level of a genuine world sport. To compare, there are more registered female soccer players in US than there are male/female rugby players on the planet. It's a minority sport played by a handful of countries yet Irish media go on about the rugby team as if they are world superstars. Makes me laugh when I hear such a player is world class... of course he is if he plays for one of the 7/8 actual countries that are competitive in the world.
It's popularity lies in the fact that upper middle class types worship the snobbery and BS that surrounds the sport. It's all about being seen to be there. It's horrendously commercial and fake. Irish clubs are successful because they take euro competition so seriously and rest up for the league. The French and English by comparison aren't as bothered. After that, who else is there in the whole of Europe? Nobody. They've to go to South Africa to find teams.
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Replying To galwayford: "This decision to play is full of bear traps or pitfalls. Let us say the All Ireland semis are due to take place in say a category red storm warning. What kind of hurling can take place in that. Or the final is due to take place with an Orange level weather warning. What happens. Personally I am of the belief that a shared All Ireland, in the covid 19 circumstances of 2020 is a way to go. GAA is an amateur sport. So it would not be legal action." If the All-Ireland competitions are not completed before Christmas, they will be completed in early 2021.
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brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 448 - 21/10/2020 15:58:26Off the Ball covers all sports. He isnt rugby media. He is a sports journalist. Covers GAA and everything else with OTB.
Molly's Dad is a Mayoman. Before he took the TV job he was clueless on rugby, still is in many ways. He's more of a soccer and golf man. Don't let the truth get in the way of your lies.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5851 - 21/10/2020 16:18:25 Wouldnt say clueless on rugby but far from the best.
He is from Limerick and is a big Munster rugby fan. His name- Killing fields, refers to a D4 rugby term for Limerick rugby. Limerick are not good at Gaelic football, they are in division 4. He is focally anti Gaelic football.
That said, it is nice to have some Munster rugby fans on this platform. I am a big Premier league football fan. Who nearly always watches Match of the Day.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1887 - 21/10/2020 16:24:38Im not anti gaelic football but do think the rule book needs drastic overhaul. What "D4 rugby term" (whats a d4 rugby term anyway?) did i use?
No they are not......just look at all the comments on social media over past 48 hrs....look at the profiles of the people commenting LoI fans, rugby fans etc all in a sustained attack on GAA due to its popularity ......
The chip on the shoulder of these people about the GAA is immense even the way the refer to it as bog ball and stick fighting thinking they are cool and hip when actually they are simply trying to ape a colonial power that tramped their people into the ground for generations ......
ArmaghCat (Armagh) - Posts: 49 - 21/10/2020 16:35:44 hahahaha do you have links to all these comments that are anti gaa?
Care to show on many main rugby forums that people use terms such as bog ball and stick fighting?
I'm GAA first and foremost but have more than an interest in other sports including soccer and rugby. This means I read and follow the media attached to all sports and make no mistake the current campaign is nothing to do with Covid.
Irish rugby is a farce; we're brainwashed into thinking the international rugby team touches every community in Ireland and we're one of the top international teams with a chance of becoming world champions. It's a complete farce; yes the team do fairly well; winning a few 6 nations in the years post world cup when all other nations are in transition planning for the next world cup year. Look at Ireland's record in WC years or at the WC itself; this is the only year every team is at peak and the same level of preparation and we're a very poor international team.
Soccer to be fair is a national sport that genuinely touches every community in Ireland; our soccer team is poor but there is nothing like a successful international team - it doesn't happen often but the vast majority of the country feel genuine warmth to working class guys representing us and get behind it as a country.
The mainstream media has been taken over by rugby fanatics; very much linked to the governments trying to make everything in the country middle class. There is a campaign to make rugby our national sport, it's all positive reports; nothing negative and after each awful WC year everything goes back how great rugby is.
Yes Munster rugby touches working class areas but it will never be a national sport like the GAA or soccer. GAA in particular gets bad press from the media as I suspect they see us as more of a competitor.
To the GAA people out there let the negativety and GAA bashing continue, they'll never achieve what they're trying to do as the GAA breaks down every class system and is the true national sport of Ireland no matter how much the rugby press dislike it.
sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 637 - 21/10/2020 16:48:20 The only farcical thing is this post.
You are going back to using the old insults that others have used countless times before and its been shown to be incorrect. Yes the mens rugby team have failed at world cups. Theres no arguing that but saying the 6 nations wins etc are just when the opposition is in transition is just plain lies.
Going on about mainstream media being taken over is very near jim corr/gemma o doherty paranoia levels.
The negativity the GAA receives in the media comes from the so called gaa people more than anyone else in particular the gaa only writers. that isnt the fault of anyone but the GAA itself." The coverage of rugby in Ireland is farcical. I actually played rugby for the first team of my university even though I never played it until I went there, level was AIB Div 2. One of lads on the team went on to play for Munster and win 6 nations. The out half was kiwi ( I got involved as i lived with him and didn't make Sigerson panel so said I'd give rugby a go) that went on to play for Munster and Newcastle. I remember thinking that the standard of athleticism was akin to Junior football in Meath and this was the 2nd division for the whole country. It's a minority sport with small playing numbers. I've no doubt Brian O Driscoll was a very good athlete but his achievements come nowhere near to a Sheamus Coleman for eg playing at highest level of a genuine world sport. To compare, there are more registered female soccer players in US than there are male/female rugby players on the planet. It's a minority sport played by a handful of countries yet Irish media go on about the rugby team as if they are world superstars. Makes me laugh when I hear such a player is world class... of course he is if he plays for one of the 7/8 actual countries that are competitive in the world. It's popularity lies in the fact that upper middle class types worship the snobbery and BS that surrounds the sport. It's all about being seen to be there. It's horrendously commercial and fake. Irish clubs are successful because they take euro competition so seriously and rest up for the league. The French and English by comparison aren't as bothered. After that, who else is there in the whole of Europe? Nobody. They've to go to South Africa to find teams."
All your rugby anecdotes sound made up and anti rugby.AIL division 2 is about the equivelant of division 2 gaelic football. What club did you play for and who was this kiwi? Killing fields might know..
In Limerick rugby is the fabric of city living,like hurling is in the countryside. Theres very good relations. People like you always try to ridicule and put up barriers. Why?
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Replying To KillingFields: "True in that Joe Molloy is a Kildare man who's family are from Silgo. Joe Molloy works for virgin Rugby and Off the ball Rugby newstalk. Joe went ranting on air and on twitter calling for the GAA season to be cancelled this is a direct attack on the GAA organisation by Rugby media. Vodapone "team of us" put a lot of money into Irish rugby and wont be too happy to see direct competition over the next few weeks they heavily involved in Off the ball newstalk.
brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 448 - 21/10/2020 15:58:26Off the Ball covers all sports. He isnt rugby media. He is a sports journalist. Covers GAA and everything else with OTB.
Molly's Dad is a Mayoman. Before he took the TV job he was clueless on rugby, still is in many ways. He's more of a soccer and golf man. Don't let the truth get in the way of your lies.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5851 - 21/10/2020 16:18:25 Wouldnt say clueless on rugby but far from the best.
He is from Limerick and is a big Munster rugby fan. His name- Killing fields, refers to a D4 rugby term for Limerick rugby. Limerick are not good at Gaelic football, they are in division 4. He is focally anti Gaelic football.
That said, it is nice to have some Munster rugby fans on this platform. I am a big Premier league football fan. Who nearly always watches Match of the Day.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1887 - 21/10/2020 16:24:38Im not anti gaelic football but do think the rule book needs drastic overhaul. What "D4 rugby term" (whats a d4 rugby term anyway?) did i use?
No they are not......just look at all the comments on social media over past 48 hrs....look at the profiles of the people commenting LoI fans, rugby fans etc all in a sustained attack on GAA due to its popularity ......
The chip on the shoulder of these people about the GAA is immense even the way the refer to it as bog ball and stick fighting thinking they are cool and hip when actually they are simply trying to ape a colonial power that tramped their people into the ground for generations ......
ArmaghCat (Armagh) - Posts: 49 - 21/10/2020 16:35:44 hahahaha do you have links to all these comments that are anti gaa?
Care to show on many main rugby forums that people use terms such as bog ball and stick fighting?
I'm GAA first and foremost but have more than an interest in other sports including soccer and rugby. This means I read and follow the media attached to all sports and make no mistake the current campaign is nothing to do with Covid.
Irish rugby is a farce; we're brainwashed into thinking the international rugby team touches every community in Ireland and we're one of the top international teams with a chance of becoming world champions. It's a complete farce; yes the team do fairly well; winning a few 6 nations in the years post world cup when all other nations are in transition planning for the next world cup year. Look at Ireland's record in WC years or at the WC itself; this is the only year every team is at peak and the same level of preparation and we're a very poor international team.
Soccer to be fair is a national sport that genuinely touches every community in Ireland; our soccer team is poor but there is nothing like a successful international team - it doesn't happen often but the vast majority of the country feel genuine warmth to working class guys representing us and get behind it as a country.
The mainstream media has been taken over by rugby fanatics; very much linked to the governments trying to make everything in the country middle class. There is a campaign to make rugby our national sport, it's all positive reports; nothing negative and after each awful WC year everything goes back how great rugby is.
Yes Munster rugby touches working class areas but it will never be a national sport like the GAA or soccer. GAA in particular gets bad press from the media as I suspect they see us as more of a competitor.
To the GAA people out there let the negativety and GAA bashing continue, they'll never achieve what they're trying to do as the GAA breaks down every class system and is the true national sport of Ireland no matter how much the rugby press dislike it.
sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 637 - 21/10/2020 16:48:20 The only farcical thing is this post.
You are going back to using the old insults that others have used countless times before and its been shown to be incorrect. Yes the mens rugby team have failed at world cups. Theres no arguing that but saying the 6 nations wins etc are just when the opposition is in transition is just plain lies.
Going on about mainstream media being taken over is very near jim corr/gemma o doherty paranoia levels.
The negativity the GAA receives in the media comes from the so called gaa people more than anyone else in particular the gaa only writers. that isnt the fault of anyone but the GAA itself." It's not plain lies though and any rugby follower would know this if they like to admit it or not. Look at the RFU and Welsh Rugby Union's 4 year cycle plan. It's a very well spoken about; these unions tend to move players on after a world cup and only keep a coach if they're committing to the 4 years. Their coaches don't hide the fact they're trying new systems and players with thd ultimate aim of preparing for the world cup. Those unions as well as France have a very clear policy which shows in the results at WC's compared to ourselves; yes there is one or two WC's they underachieve but not often. Ireland's policy on the other hand is building up huge momentum in the 6 nations to grow the game and increase revenue. NZ even laughed during interviews at the WC about Ireland beating them in glorified friendlies whilst they were in transition. Look at the result when NZ were at peak. I love rugby but Irish rugby is a farce and a tad embarssing when we talk about being number 1 and winning world cups. We benefit from the transitional period; even the 6 nations in WC year we tend to be awful; all a farce sorry.
sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 21/10/2020 20:30:56
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