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Replying To Bon: "I've met people who have gone to private schools who played club GAA at inter county level as well as playing senior rugby and hockey. I've also met people who were private schooled that were so ignorant about GAA, one middle aged guy who never saw a Hurley in the flesh." What about when he had clothes on?
cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 14/11/2016 14:04:14
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Jeez lads live and let live.
If a school doesnt want to play GAA and people want to send their kids their then so what. It doesnt make them any less Irish or different. They just dont want to or have any interest in GAA, so what?
Im in my late 30's and in my primary school in rural Wexford we used to keep a young fella on watch so he would let us know if the principal was making his way from the class room at lunch break so we would quickly turn the soccer at lunch time into a football.
In my secondary school it was football or hurling or football or hurling or if you genuinely didnt want either you could play basketball or table tennis despite the fact we walked past soccer pitches and the rugby club to get to a GAA pitch.
Id rather have my young fella playing something be it rugby, hockey etc if they ahd no interest in GAA than sitting on their ass in front of a PS or Xbox.
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Replying To Bon: "I've met people who have gone to private schools who played club GAA at inter county level as well as playing senior rugby and hockey. I've also met people who were private schooled that were so ignorant about GAA, one middle aged guy who never saw a Hurley in the flesh." Terenure College is a fee-paying school with a strong rugby tradition but are also now competitive in football and hurling which is great to see. Every pupil should have a proper opportunity to play their national sport at school, the implication that the national games are for the 'other sorts' is not good for the pupil or society.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 14/11/2016 15:19:51
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Replying To tearintom: "Jeez lads live and let live.
If a school doesnt want to play GAA and people want to send their kids their then so what. It doesnt make them any less Irish or different. They just dont want to or have any interest in GAA, so what?
Im in my late 30's and in my primary school in rural Wexford we used to keep a young fella on watch so he would let us know if the principal was making his way from the class room at lunch break so we would quickly turn the soccer at lunch time into a football.
In my secondary school it was football or hurling or football or hurling or if you genuinely didnt want either you could play basketball or table tennis despite the fact we walked past soccer pitches and the rugby club to get to a GAA pitch.
Id rather have my young fella playing something be it rugby, hockey etc if they ahd no interest in GAA than sitting on their ass in front of a PS or Xbox." Of course we can live and let live.Some people seem to have a difficulty in accepting the complete lack of interest me and many of my fellow county men have for rugger.I don't go pontificating my love of snooker onto others and berating them for not going down their local club to experience the game.Live and let live rugger buggers!We do not like that game!And never will!
cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 14/11/2016 16:16:31
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Replying To showforit: "it is a fee paying private school - most people aren't going to consider going to it. Ye can't compel them to offer it. It's like going into an Audi dealership and insist he sells you a bmw." You do realise fee paying schools are subsidised by the state. The fee then allows them to hire extra teachers on private contracts and reduce class sizes. Also allows them to pay top coaches.
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Replying To doratheexplorer: "You do realise fee paying schools are subsidised by the state. The fee then allows them to hire extra teachers on private contracts and reduce class sizes. Also allows them to pay top coaches." I do, but my point is there isn't much we can do about it, even if we don't like it. They are transparent about it and so it isn't a surprise, there is a few schools like them, but not many to be a threat.
It never bothered me that the school that I went to didn't offer soccer or rugby coz I could play soccer with local club. It annoyed me that hurling wasn't offered taken seriously in the school but like all extracurricular activities it was a case of resources and priorities.
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Could I be so bold as to ask why you do not believe Castleknock College has banned the playing of gaelic games? From speaking to alumni I believe playing rugby is not just encouraged but compulsory, and while there are many sports that can be competed in the College have banned the playing of gaelic games for close to 100 years now. To be honest I see this as something to be pitied rather than bothered about.
Soma (UK) - Posts:1653 - 11/11/2016 22:26:48Because I simply have no reason to believe they've stopped gaelic games from being played and what would be gained from stopping GAA from being played. Rugby is compulsory for all those in first and second year so the 13/14/15 year olds have to play a team sport bar some exceptions. Why is that a bad thing? You know for sure gaelic games are banned? Where is the proof it is?
There is a big difference between being discouraged and banned! Many schools don't have the access to proper rugby coaching which would be one reason for Rugby not being facilitated. Where as I'm sure there is GAA development officer designated to the Castleknock area alone given the money the Dublin county board spends on coaching (not a dig).
On the point of why it's being held at that venue, most likely to do with the fact that the All Black's are staying in the Castleknock Hotel and probably using the college for training.
CurlyFingers (Monaghan) - Posts:22 - 12/11/2016 09:39:50All schools have access through provincial development officers who are employed by IRFU/provincial branches to rugby coaches so rugby can be facilitated.
So you think it is a good idea to force somebody into playing a sport in a place of education.What an enlightened school that seems to be.Do they not realize people go to school for an education not for sport. I can only imagine the reaction if people were forced into playing football or hurling in any school.
Believe it or not there are other ways to exercise besides playing rugby.
uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts:1013 - 14/11/2016 08:16:29Yes everyone should be encouraged to play sport and a team one in school for at least their first 2 years of secondary school. Should it have to be rugby. Of course not but if not rugby then soccer, basketball, gaa.
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be fair if people were on this site dissing snooker having never been to a snooker club you would probably wanna respond -and i think youd be correct to do so - as for using the term rugger -nobody in ireland uses that term
i like a bit of snooker myself - look up "the rack pack" snooker film - saw it on bbc about a month or two back - its brilliant - if you havent seen it already youll love it
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Nobody should be forced to play any sport in school. 50 years ago when we were a more homogenous society it was not uncommon for children to be forced (or at least perceive themselves to be forced) to play Gaelic games in Christian Brother-run schools. Some later attributed their dislike/ hatred of Gaelic games to this policy and its association with the disciplinary ethos of the organisation. Today if children in any Irish school were compelled to play Gaelic Games for a year or two there would be hell to pay in the media but no such disapproval is applied when the sport concerned is rugby in a middle class school.
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be fair if people were on this site dissing snooker having never been to a snooker club you would probably wanna respond -and i think youd be correct to do so - as for using the term rugger -nobody in ireland uses that term
i like a bit of snooker myself - look up "the rack pack" snooker film - saw it on bbc about a month or two back - its brilliant - if you havent seen it already youll love it" Yes i saw it a few months back and enjoyed it.Honestly,if posters were dissing snooker on here,i couldn't care less.I've had a love of the game since me Dad let me stay up to watch the famous "black ball" final between Steve Davis and Dennis Taylor in 1985.To be fair to me old man he used bring me to the national boxing finals in the Stadium for a few years,also.He passed his love of sport on to me.Not for rugby though.I used watch the 5 Nations and 6 Nations games on tv but i dont bother anymore.
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Funny enough,while i have a keen interest in boxing,i have zero tume for UFC and McGregor.I haven't seen him fight for even one minute.
I used to follow Ken Egan winning amateur national title after title in the Stadium.We went to the same school in Clondalkin village,the same as Jim Gavin,and he was always a sound lad.
Bernard Dunne only lived up the road in Neilstown and i had a couple good nights watching him in the Point.
Anthony Fitzgerald getting sparked out early doors by Spike O Sullivan was another memorable night as i used frequent the 2 pubs that Fitzgeralds run.I promise it wasn't me who threw a seat at O Sullivan in the ring (:
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Replying To cuederocket: "What about when he had clothes on?" A hurley in the flesh. One way to bring a smile to the face. One way or another
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alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 19/11/2016 23:11:15
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Replying To alano12: " Replying To bad.monkey: "[quote=ormondbannerman: "Could I be so bold as to ask why you do not believe Castleknock College has banned the playing of gaelic games? From speaking to alumni I believe playing rugby is not just encouraged but compulsory, and while there are many sports that can be competed in the College have banned the playing of gaelic games for close to 100 years now. To be honest I see this as something to be pitied rather than bothered about.
Soma (UK) - Posts:1651 - 11/11/2016 22:26:48Because they don't. They don't focus on GAA but there has been teams in past competing in gaelic comps with other rugby playing schools.
Rugby is compulsory for all first and second years in the school bar those who physically cant play. I see no issue with that in any school as too often there is dozens of kids who don't take part in any physical activity.
Agreed but there are far more schools where the playing of foreign games like rugby are 'discouraged' to put it mildly
bad.monkey (USA) - Posts:4198 - 12/11/2016 08:05:26Discouraged and banned. Saw it in one of the two secondary schools I attended and rugby was banned for quite some time before some teaching changes brought rugby into the school" Not true Ormo that castleknock have competed in that GAA competition . GAA is banned in the school. The fact that they have players playing for Castleknock GAA clubs actuallt shows it is not down to lack of interest but any actual ban. Schools should play whatever the pupils want where feasible be it rugby GAA soccer or anything else. Howevet it is wrong though to tar the rugby schools as the only ones who 'ban' other sports. Plenty of Gaa schools do them same in practice. Hopefully times are changing though. Xbox and playstation are the past times to be concerned about"
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Replying To royaldunne: " Replying To alano12: "[quote=bad.monkey: "[quote=ormondbannerman: "Could I be so bold as to ask why you do not believe Castleknock College has banned the playing of gaelic games? From speaking to alumni I believe playing rugby is not just encouraged but compulsory, and while there are many sports that can be competed in the College have banned the playing of gaelic games for close to 100 years now. To be honest I see this as something to be pitied rather than bothered about.
Soma (UK) - Posts:1651 - 11/11/2016 22:26:48Because they don't. They don't focus on GAA but there has been teams in past competing in gaelic comps with other rugby playing schools.
Rugby is compulsory for all first and second years in the school bar those who physically cant play. I see no issue with that in any school as too often there is dozens of kids who don't take part in any physical activity.
Agreed but there are far more schools where the playing of foreign games like rugby are 'discouraged' to put it mildly
bad.monkey (USA) - Posts:4198 - 12/11/2016 08:05:26Discouraged and banned. Saw it in one of the two secondary schools I attended and rugby was banned for quite some time before some teaching changes brought rugby into the school" Not true Ormo that castleknock have competed in that GAA competition . GAA is banned in the school. The fact that they have players playing for Castleknock GAA clubs actuallt shows it is not down to lack of interest but any actual ban. Schools should play whatever the pupils want where feasible be it rugby GAA soccer or anything else. Howevet it is wrong though to tar the rugby schools as the only ones who 'ban' other sports. Plenty of Gaa schools do them same in practice. Hopefully times are changing though. Xbox and playstation are the past times to be concerned about"
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Lots of confusion out there but there is a perfectly valid reason for why the school doesn't play GAA (I went there and this is what we were told by our history teacher anyway so it may be complete rubbish but it seems to check out).
Basically, in 1922 (or 1921, I kind of forget the details) the school won a GAA competition for schools but the GAA refused to give them the trophy since they were deemed a "British" school (although catholic in ethos) due to the large amount of Anglo-Irish and rich students. As a result of the cup being taken away the headmaster at the time said that the school wouldn't play GAA until the trophy was given, needless to say, we're still waiting on the trophy (and as far as i know they discredited the win) so as a result, the school doesn't play GAA although they have a strong Irish culture (Cumhal, Fionn Mac Cumhal's father) is rumored to be buried there and they also have a strong religious ethos.
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Hello !
What's this lad at now ?
Slow at the typing are we. 5 years in the making.
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 01/03/2021 17:25:38
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