hurlingdub
County: Dublin
Posts: 6356

1631077 Greengrass, I think you will find the silly talk was started by a Monaghan man slagging Dublin players as "semi pro". If you can't take it don't give it :-)


Perhaps if you Louth people were not so infatuated with soccer you might have a half decent football team?

See what I mean ? Arrogance and ignorance personified. Like I said some and I stress some Dublin posters are typical nouveau riche-no class.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6182 - 04/08/2014 12:37:42    1631154

http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/gaa-clubs-by-numbers-26534693.html
Just for you hurlingdub

bladecx (Monaghan) - Posts: 147 - 04/08/2014 12:40:26    1631160

clondalkindub
County: Dublin
Posts: 5228

1631111 Greengrass are you going to ignore the constant abuse we get on here and just say we've no class? Surely you can see we get more stick/abuse/slaggings than anyone else so surely were allowed to give it back? Kerry supporters are not all as gracious as you make out , and if Monaghan do beat us I'll be the first on here to congratulate them.

Clondalkin you won't find me slagging or sneering at Dublin. They are a serious outfit packed with serious footballers. Nor will I sneer at their hurlers who have added a lot to hurling over the past number of years. If you want a sneer have a look at hurlingdub's last few posts. This is a great time to be a Dublin supporter and there are more great times to come. it's a pity some and I keep stressing the word some haven't got grace when successful.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6182 - 04/08/2014 12:50:04    1631168

I would agree with Clondalkin there. Kerry fans are the most gracious and friendly when they are hammering you out the gate and sniggering at you at the same time. When they lose they are different animals, to paraphrase the late great Paudi O'Se. They are completely ungracious, whinging, undignified and totally dismissive and disrespectful to the teams and fans who have just beaten them. They invented every excuse under the sun when Tyrone, Armagh and Down beat them and refused to accept that maybe it was better sides that had defeated them. Dublin fans were excellent and extremely dignified most of the time when they were being beaten and that's what makes it hard to understand that now they act like such pains in the a*se when they are winning. The Man Utd fans terminology is quite apt.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9825 - 04/08/2014 12:52:24    1631170

Blade - how do those figures work by the by? Just had a wee read of the link and it says Antrim have 108 affiliated clubs. However, given that there are only 49/50 clubs in Antrim across the 3 boards (North Antrim, SW Antrim, S Antrim) how does this then become 108 clubs? If you are a dual club do you get counted twice?

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 04/08/2014 12:58:41    1631176

04/08/2014 11:56:53
Ulsterman
County: Antrim
Posts: 6947

1631110
Spot on Greengrass there have been enough times over the past 15 years or so when the Dubs were in gloom and despair and crying on each others shoulders after another horsing so for them to suddenly start patronising and lecturing everyone else about 'total football' is quite galling and a bit rich. Yes they are a very good side but their strength is their fitness and speed and not really any outstanding footballing ability, in that regard I think they are very, very ordinary.
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I agree and it's a shocking reflection on other counties, who have far superior footballers, that they cannot be bothered to train as hard as the Dubs to match their fitness levels and speed. Still it doesn't matter what tools you use to obtain it, let the silverware conveyor belt rumble on. Thank God the General isn't around these days for he would surely value a raid on the trophy cabinet at Panell Park now over Russborogh House any day.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 04/08/2014 12:59:30    1631177

Whevever chance Monaghan have they would need all the players available, a possible ban for Hughes won't help things. Not that it would make difference as Dublin will be too strong.

Emmet Bolton getting black carded was a pivotal moment in Saturdays game.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2894 - 04/08/2014 13:14:54    1631187

Many people thought that Kerry were unbeatable and that affected a lot of teams in Ulster for years who were beaten mentally before the game started when they played them. Then Joe Kernan, Mickey Harte and their players realised that the Kerry boys were mere mortals who could be beaten if you stood up to them. Dublin are the same, there is the same myth building around them but Cork showed in the League semi-final that they could be get at and they are vulnerable. Furthermore some Dublin players sail very close to the wind discipline wise and they have got off the hook in games on quite a few occasions this season by lenient referees. Monaghan should test these guys with a few hard hits and see how they react and see if officials are going to treat Dublin like the rest or are they still going to let their cynical play go unpunished. It will need a strong referee who will not be affected by the crowd, the Dublin media or the GAA top brass who want to see Dublin in every final.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9825 - 04/08/2014 13:19:25    1631192

Dubs will probably win it, but by no means certain.

I have just returned from Boylesports, after backing Monaghan at 9/1........ crazy for a 2-horse race. (best price available).

Monaghan Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 444 - 04/08/2014 14:14:22    1631221

this has all gone silly
you have to get the feeling some monaghan posters are just looking for a reason to slag dublin if monaghan win after
and a reason to have an excuse if dublin win by using ridiculous accusations of semi pro and being training 2-3 times a day
that would actually phyiscaly damage a player. then this whole population argument is ridculous again
didnt cork have a bigger population than mayo yesterday or galway to kerry?
you pick 26 players thats all any county has on any match panel so you could have 1. hwatever million players but would good would they be sitting in the stand watching like the rest of us

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 04/08/2014 14:16:49    1631224

There are certain player s in the Dublin team that make them tick like Mdmc , Flynn and cluxtin.If the likes of these lads can be put of their stride Monaghan will be in with a shout.connelly to get a red card if the game is tight.

Midlu1 (Louth) - Posts: 790 - 04/08/2014 14:31:04    1631239

Dublin are still the best team in it Ulsterman. They have a very strong chance of winning three All-Irelands in four years which is exceptional by any standards. What they have achieved already most particularly winning five trophies on the bounce is exceptional. Yes they can be got at but they are by far the best at getting at the opposition.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6182 - 04/08/2014 14:45:12    1631252

bladecx
County: Monaghan
Posts: 137

1631160 http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/gaa-clubs-by-numbers-26534693.html
Just for you hurlingdub

that link is not reflective of clubs per county, ill give you an example.

Dublin population 1.2 million 97 clubs.
Down population 531,000 50 clubs.
Kerry population 145,000 75 clubs.
Galway population 250000 82 clubs
Meath poulation 184000 63 clubs
Tyrone poulation 177000 57 clubs.
Kildare 205000 50 clubs.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 04/08/2014 15:06:48    1631266

yes hill but numerous dublin posters only look to gloat slag off and belittle other counties on here so it works both ways...as greengrass said...reminds me of a man utd fan but at least they were dominating

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 04/08/2014 15:18:22    1631270

a decent portion of dublin clubs would have huge numbers compared to clubs in cork though

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 04/08/2014 15:20:02    1631272

04/08/2014 11:56:53
Ulsterman
County: Antrim
Posts: 6947

1631110
Spot on Greengrass there have been enough times over the past 15 years or so when the Dubs were in gloom and despair and crying on each others shoulders after another horsing so for them to suddenly start patronising and lecturing everyone else about 'total football' is quite galling and a bit rich. Yes they are a very good side but their strength is their fitness and speed and not really any outstanding footballing ability, in that regard I think they are very, very ordinary.

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Agree totally and indeed this observation is testament to the failure of other counties, who have far superior footballers, to apply themselves to a thorough training regime in order to match Dublin's fitness and speed. Dublin, of course, cannot be be held responsible for other counties' failings and long may the conveyor belt of silverware rumble on to the treasure vaults of Parnell Park.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 04/08/2014 15:24:13    1631280

Midlu1
County: Louth
Posts: 657

1631239
There are certain player s in the Dublin team that make them tick like Mdmc , Flynn and cluxtin.If the likes of these lads can be put of their stride Monaghan will be in with a shout.connelly to get a red card if the game is tight.

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Let's hope that the Monaghan tacticians read that post as they may well divert their attention away from players that don't make us tick like the multi-Allstar winning Brogan brothers, Dermot Connolly and Kevin Mc. Yes no doubt Connolly will be a 'target' and this will give the Brogans and Kevin Mc the room to do the damage. The problem is that once you think you have solved one conundrum another pops right up.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 04/08/2014 15:30:13    1631285

I think given that he used the words "like and "the likes of" that Midlu's list was not meant to be exhaustive and that he was merely using those players as examples. I would be interested in hearing from Dublin supporters as to who they think is their most influential player. Who is the player whose absence would hurt the team most ?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6182 - 04/08/2014 17:08:42    1631344

Greengrass
County: Louth
Posts: 3206

1631344
I think given that he used the words "like and "the likes of" that Midlu's list was not meant to be exhaustive and that he was merely using those players as examples. I would be interested in hearing from Dublin supporters as to who they think is their most influential player. Who is the player whose absence would hurt the team most ?

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It's hard to say. Midfield is still our weakness. If MDMA did not start then we would plug in Bastick, McCarthy or Flynn perhaps. All very good players all the same but when MDMA plays well we are generally rampant. Flynn. I think we have very good cover in all areas except, from a tactical perspective, goalkeeper.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 04/08/2014 17:19:06    1631353

Greengrass,the 3 players that would hurt us most if missing,in order,would be - Stephen Cluxton,Michael Dara McGauley and Paul Flynn.Rory O Carrol would be the next.Have to keep these guys fit.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 04/08/2014 17:23:55    1631358