Snuf your attitude is pretty annoying. You can't have a go at me as I have already stated there are no excuses. However, your attitude towards Mayo is bizarre. Yes we fouled a lot in the semi final, we are not the first team to commit a series of cynical fouls in a game. If it gets a team over the line, then tough luck. Until the Gaa bring in a suitable punishment maybe you should man up and stop whining about it. And for gods sake, what is with the signing yourself off at the end of every post, does it make you feel important?

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8458 - 27/09/2012 16:30:38    1273882

ffgg
ah master do you ever stop trying to twist things to suit your argument...your argument in relation to hillsborough was close to pathetic....mayo got what they deserved as they were simply not good enough yet again

What am I twisting? I have said the same thing consistantly. And at no point have I said mayo deserved to beat donegal. This is the nonsense that ruins thread. Guys wading into arguments with comments that only confuse the situation. You are calling me out for what I am saying on this thread, yet totally misquote me (and then you say it is me that is twisting things?). It seems you believe I should have to answer to you, so let me ask you, who are you answering to? You have made claims that are 100% inaccurate, can you explain them?

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 27/09/2012 16:40:55    1273893

realdub

You are not the only one to kick a ball around the place or in Croke Park, you use the term 'keyboard warriors' very loosely. Is Joe Brolly a keyboard warrior aswell !? The man should be given an award for being the best analyst the RTE has ever had. Didn't take him too long to work out Mayo's gameplan and it didn't take a good Ref like Deegan long to put a stop to it. No one here is begrudging anything Donegal won the All Ireland fairplay to them. One individual here has tried to take on half of the forum. I'm starting to think he is not a real person at all but a hoganstand agent to promote debate and argument cause for the life of me I cannot understand how someone can be seriously so blinkered, it's slightly insane.

Bluewave (Dublin) - Posts: 552 - 27/09/2012 17:02:46    1273910

Sorry lads for starting this thread I was drunk and emotional and fault sorry for Mayo at the time.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 27/09/2012 17:07:05    1273912

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1273912 Sorry lads for starting this thread I was drunk and emotional and fault sorry for Mayo at the time.

"My Heart Goes Out To Mayo" could be a great title for a C/W song. Daniel O'D should be told.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 27/09/2012 17:10:53    1273917

Up to the officials now to stamp out that side of the game, but as Christy Brownes oul lad said, "shut mouth catches no flies" Up the Dubs!!!

True enough. :)

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 27/09/2012 17:14:31    1273920

"My lovely Mayo Mammy"

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 27/09/2012 17:15:03    1273921

stop acting ignorant as usual master...where did you disappear to on the hillsborough topic if you were so right?..you consistently refuse to answer the questions put in front of you by various posters...you claim knowledge of everything in relation to the jim mcguiness controversy yet when tyronetim called you out on every single one of you points you fail to respond

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 27/09/2012 17:17:14    1273923

Coulda, woulda. shoulda. Of course we were foulling cynically. Using soccer/basketball tactics to slow down Donegal. The fouling is bad enough but the feigning being shot when barely being touched is maddening. My own opinion is that it's 100% admission that we're not quite good enough to win by fair means, we were still not confident enough in our footballing abilities. We're a few quality players short of that standard needed. Congratulations to Donegal. Many are saying they won the game in the first 11 minutes. Complete nonesense. What won it was their ability and absolute confidence to go up the field and tack on points whenever we got within 3 or 4 points from them. The sign of a very good team.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8176 - 27/09/2012 17:27:47    1273933

Relax yourself bluewave, I never said my posts were more meaningful just because I played, Brolly is not a keyboard warrior because he faces the camera and everyone knows who he is, he gets his anytime he walks up Clonliffe Rd off supporters. There is some constructive critisism on here from time to time and its welcome, but some of it is just absolute high-horse ranting.

Some think that their "artful" writing gives them poetic license to be a twat. The only manning up that needs to be done were GAA is concerned is on the pitch!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8812 - 27/09/2012 17:40:33    1273940

Agreed 'realdub'

Bluewave (Dublin) - Posts: 552 - 27/09/2012 18:15:46    1273951

It seems that all the rest of the lads are on to you now as well themaster!
If you had just admitted in the first place that Mayo won by cynical means
against the Dubs you wouldn't sound like such a hypocrite! For years you
have been spouting about cynical play on this forum (a champion for fair play
if you like), and that was to be respected! However, now that your own county
has turned to the dark-side, your failure to speak out against it smacks of
hypocrisy, some might say!

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 27/09/2012 18:49:37    1273967

Of course we were foulling cynically. Using soccer/basketball tactics to slow down Donegal. The fouling is bad enough but the feigning being shot when barely being touched is maddening. My own opinion is that it's 100% admission that we're not quite good enough to win by fair means, we were still not confident enough in our footballing abilities.
GreenandRed , 27/09/2012 at 17:27
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The only mayo man around here talking a bit of sense!!!.....TheFlaker should take note as when I mentioned the above points I was told that 'it happens and get over it'!!!

Sorry lads, but nobody has any time or respect for a team at that lark and if mayo had won, it would have been a tainted All Ireland respected by nobody but yerselves!!

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 27/09/2012 19:32:05    1273985

ffgg
stop acting ignorant as usual master...where did you disappear to on the hillsborough topic if you were so right?..you consistently refuse to answer the questions put in front of you by various posters...you claim knowledge of everything in relation to the jim mcguiness controversy yet when tyronetim called you out on every single one of you points you fail to respond

No answers to the questions put to you. It would pay you better to spare the insults and address the points put to you. That is if you are able to. I stopped posting on the hillborough thread because I was asked to. I stand by every single thing I said on that thread. If I was so wrong then why could not a single person explain where or why point was wrong? Should have been pretty easy shouldnt it? As for the jim mcguinness thread, I thought the posts were getting too longwinded so I shortened my response to the facts of the matter. Not that I have to explain myself to you, for one second. Particularly when you yourself ignored the points put to you on this very thread and instead threw insults.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 27/09/2012 21:32:09    1274055

Can I say this!!!!

I'm a passionate Mayo supporter and I was absolutely gutted last weekend. However I will be the first to admit that Mayo did engage with the 'dark arts' and even though we won I wasn't entirely delighted the way we won it...I would have preferred to beat the dubs through pure football. That doesn't make me any less of a Mayo supporter....I stayed till the bitter end last sunday.

However to all those putting the boot into us consider this:

For years we've been branded as nice little footballers with no balls or drive to win, the kind of ara sure theyre losers but a nice bunch all the same. That we didnt have the balls to see out these games against "tougher" or "stronger" and that we are a bunch of p*ssies.

Also to those who complain about being wronged by us consider this. Whenever we've been wronged (and that's happened plenty of times) we're branded as incessant bitter whingers from the bog who should crawl back to our misery of an existence and that we somehow deserved our injustice.

To conclude.....Mayo did do cynical fouling but either way we're damned if we do and damned if we don't.

I had a great time in dub and took part in the 7s comp and tbh the dubs i met there we're the nicest salt of the earth people. After their hospitality Dublin are my next favourite team outside of connaught (which explains why I was shouting for them in the minors not because of 96 so meath people don't flatter yourselves)

GAAMayo (Mayo) - Posts: 10 - 27/09/2012 22:02:21    1274077

Snuf, showing A post from a Mayo man doesn't mean you are right. I would have the same response to my fellow county man. Win at all costs, make no apologies for it.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8458 - 28/09/2012 10:32:16    1274128

Cynical Fouling... YES, at times it was required to get the job done, I think that would be a fair assessment of what Mayo had to do to beat Dublin. But if you are asking the question about footballing ability and entertainment, then I think Mayo provided the highest level of entertainment and skill by any county this year in the championship. When they attack they move the ball quickly with a beautiful range of kick passing. and the number of high quality scores they took against Dublin and Donegal for that matter were of the highest order. I for one am happy to see a bit of the 'Dark arts' in there play, as long as they do not lose their ability to still entertain.

And for my money they were top draw this year with the way they attacked.

rathvilly (Carlow) - Posts: 70 - 28/09/2012 10:45:44    1274141

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Thats a top notch post there GAAMayo and it would be nice if you were able to put this debate to bed, alas this is HS and it doesn't work like that. We in Tyrone still find ourselves having to defend our position TEN YEARS down the line, using that as a yardstick I dont hold out much hope for Mayo.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 28/09/2012 11:06:15    1274154

Can I say this!!!!

I'm a passionate Mayo supporter and I was absolutely gutted last weekend. However I will be the first to admit that Mayo did engage with the 'dark arts' and even though we won I wasn't entirely delighted the way we won it...I would have preferred to beat the dubs through pure football. That doesn't make me any less of a Mayo supporter....I stayed till the bitter end last sunday.

However to all those putting the boot into us consider this:

For years we've been branded as nice little footballers with no balls or drive to win, the kind of ara sure theyre losers but a nice bunch all the same. That we didnt have the balls to see out these games against "tougher" or "stronger" and that we are a bunch of p*ssies.

Also to those who complain about being wronged by us consider this. Whenever we've been wronged (and that's happened plenty of times) we're branded as incessant bitter whingers from the bog who should crawl back to our misery of an existence and that we somehow deserved our injustice.

To conclude.....Mayo did do cynical fouling but either way we're damned if we do and damned if we don't.

I had a great time in dub and took part in the 7s comp and tbh the dubs i met there we're the nicest salt of the earth people. After their hospitality Dublin are my next favourite team outside of connaught (which explains why I was shouting for them in the minors not because of 96 so meath people don't flatter yourselves)
GAAMayo , 27/09/2012 at 22:02

Fair and honest post. I could argue strongly about some of your points but i'd only be repeating myself again - eg I am totally against deliberate fouling for any reason. That said its fair and honest and you give good reasons for your opinions. The waster could learn a lot from you.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 28/09/2012 11:16:41    1274161

Good post GaaMayo.

It is easy to make too much of what is loosely termed "cynical fouling". There are degrees of it and every team sport has some so I suppose the main priority would be to cut out the most blatant examples.

I was looking at clips last night of some of the stuff that went on in the Compromise Rules games in 2005, and I have to say that what we are on about pales into insignifigance. I don't think we will ever cut it out altogether, it is a physical game after all but some of what I would regard as unsporting behaviour could be tightened up on.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 28/09/2012 11:23:41    1274164