I'd love to see Sinn Fein get a number of seats down South, then everyone can see first hand how useless they really are. At the minute the Shinners on here go on about their brilliants proposals but it's easy to have brilliant proposals when you have no power. I could run a campaign guaranteeing each person in Mid-Ulster a hundred grand personally delivered to them by the Saturday's member of their choosing (I'm a Frankie man) but if elected I wouldn't deliver. Let Sinn Fein have their seats and watch them flounder, hopefully that will quieten down a few boys on here

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 26/11/2010 14:21:53    823267

Its FF own fault that they lost the seat. If the election was held at the right time they would have kept the seat.

MARNELL (Westmeath) - Posts: 728 - 26/11/2010 14:43:57    823286

I think I predicted on another thread that sinn fein would hold the balance of power after the next election. Seems we are heading that way. Whatever your views on the past there is no doubt that they are far more articulate and genuinely interested in the future rather than the traditional tweedle de and tweedle dum politicians of the main other parties. They certainly have done a a decent enough job up north.

thistle_harps (UK) - Posts: 879 - 26/11/2010 14:50:06    823299

Pomeroy son If I am going to have to keep educating you we will have to come to some sort of a financial arrangement and possibly make it more formal.A few seats will leave them at best, in opposition and unable to deliver. It will however give them a base to build upon and keep a watchful eye on the government which the current opposition failed to do. Is there anything else I can helpyou with. May I suggest we should start with Irish history as a platform for you to form opinions on, now I do mean history and not Orange mythology.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 26/11/2010 14:53:08    823304

26/11/2010 14:43:57
MARNELL
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823286 Its FF own fault that they lost the seat. If the election was held at the right time they would have kept the seat.

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It doesn't really matter
There will be an election in 2/3 months time and it will be SF, FF and FG unless labour put up a proper candidate that can take the Independent share of the vote plus the SF surplus Otherwise this is probably the easiest constituency on the country to predict the result for at the next general election

Donegal North East will be much more interesting outgoing McDaid, Blaney and McHugh - Can't see FF holding two seats but Im assuming they will run a candidate
along with Blaney (Keaveney ?) but only one will get in - That puts blaney at risk and he is being tipped as "one for the future"

- Big opportunity here for Labour or SF to steal a seat - Maclochlainn nearly had enough in 2007 so only needs an extra 1000 votes or so.

Omar.d (Cavan) - Posts: 1141 - 26/11/2010 15:01:58    823314

26/11/2010 14:50:06
thistle_harps
County: UK
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823299 I think I predicted on another thread that sinn fein would hold the balance of power after the next election. Seems we are heading that way. Whatever your views on the past there is no doubt that they are far more articulate and genuinely interested in the future rather than the traditional tweedle de and tweedle dum politicians of the main other parties. They certainly have done a a decent enough job up north.
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Like them or not(which I don't) I'd forecast they will have 10 seats in the next election
O snodaigh, Adams,Ferris, O caolin,Doherty,MCLochlainn,Crowe(or whoever they currently have in D22/D24 , MAry Lou,

And i'd forecast another two from Sligo, Meath or Dublin North Central

Omar.d (Cavan) - Posts: 1141 - 26/11/2010 15:09:30    823322

In this Fianna Fail heart land where Civil war politics are still at play 6424 for Fine gael is a brilliant result. There is obviously a lot of Fianna Fail supporters who are still entrenched in Civil war politics and could never vote for them hence the high vote for Sinn Fein. Plus Donegal is a border county with the UK so no real surprises.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 26/11/2010 15:14:25    823326

39.7 % is some count alright and also shows that sinn fein is getting stronger in the south and will get stronger . I see posters are still listening to pomeroy imposter ignore him .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 26/11/2010 15:15:43    823329

Good to see, have been impressed with Pearse Doherty for a number of years now. General election could be interesting in the New Year.

Remember all the other parties out there have all had their hand in running the country into the cureent state it's in. Voting Sinn Fein and trying something different can hardly be a bad thing.

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 26/11/2010 15:17:08    823334

Goodfella, Tir
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Good to see, have been impressed with Pearse Doherty for a number of years now. General election could be interesting in the New Year.

Remember all the other parties out there have all had their hand in running the country into the cureent state it's in. Voting Sinn Fein and trying something different can hardly be a bad thing.

Fianna Fail, PD's and the greens. How is that every party?

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 26/11/2010 15:33:06    823349

Like them or not(which I don't) I'd forecast they will have 10 seats in the next election
O snodaigh, Adams,Ferris, O caolin,Doherty,MCLochlainn,Crowe(or whoever they currently have in D22/D24 , MAry Lou,

And i'd forecast another two from Sligo, Meath or Dublin North Central


They'll keep the five they have (with Adams in Louth). Will win Donegal NE, with good chances in Dublin SW, Dublin NW, Dublin Central, Dublin NE and Dublin MW. Also posible are Wicklow, one or maybe both Cork city constituencies, Cork East and outside chances elsewhere. That's a possible 16!

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 26/11/2010 15:39:53    823362

Paddyogall, in recent times both Fine Gael and Labour were in power during the 1990's so that would account for most of the major parties would you not say?

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 26/11/2010 15:43:23    823364

I think Fine Gael shot themselves in the foot in Donegal. Another Faux Pas !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 26/11/2010 15:44:03    823366

Goodfella, Tir
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Paddyogall, in recent times both Fine Gael and Labour were in power during the 1990's so that would account for most of the major parties would you not say?

What the hell have they to do with the current crisis? the rainbow coalition helped establish Ireland as an export nation. Sinn Fein sicken with comments like yours.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 26/11/2010 15:46:08    823368

Cavan_Slasher
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I think Fine Gael shot themselves in the foot in Donegal. Another Faux Pas !!

Jesus what a stupid comment, no mention of Labour's performance either. Your finding it hard to keep your Fianna Fail feelings under wraps.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 26/11/2010 15:47:56    823372

Cavan_Slasher
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Posts: 6461

823366 I think Fine Gael shot themselves in the foot in Donegal. Another Faux Pas !!


They for one have a bad leader but the lad that ran for them in donegal is not even liked there by most poeple .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 26/11/2010 15:49:21    823373

And a second seat in Cavan Monaghan. 17!

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 26/11/2010 15:49:44    823374

26/11/2010 15:14:25
paddyogall
County: Mayo
Posts: 3213

823326 In this Fianna Fail heart land where Civil war politics are still at play 6424 for Fine gael is a brilliant result. There is obviously a lot of Fianna Fail supporters who are still entrenched in Civil war politics and could never vote for them hence the high vote for Sinn Fein. Plus Donegal is a border county with the UK so no real surprises.
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Its 19% of the vote - This is down on 2007 despite the fact that FF have dropped from 50% to 23%.
I don't care if Peter Mandelson and Alistar Campbell themselves won the civil war - not even them could spin this into being a good result.

Fine Geal have had representation in Donegal for decades - Joe McHugh, Dinny McGinley, Paddy Harte -
This is a disaster for Fine Gael

they had there chance to move on from being the small farmer party and they have blown it - Its time Varadker took the saddle and restructerd them into a good solid centre right party (Irish tories for want of a better word) this sitting in the middle FF lite afraid to nail colours to a mast tactic wont work

Omar.d (Cavan) - Posts: 1141 - 26/11/2010 15:50:35    823376

Omar.d
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26/11/2010 15:14:25
paddyogall
County: Mayo
Posts: 3213

823326 In this Fianna Fail heart land where Civil war politics are still at play 6424 for Fine gael is a brilliant result. There is obviously a lot of Fianna Fail supporters who are still entrenched in Civil war politics and could never vote for them hence the high vote for Sinn Fein. Plus Donegal is a border county with the UK so no real surprises.
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Its 19% of the vote - This is down on 2007 despite the fact that FF have dropped from 50% to 23%.
I don't care if Peter Mandelson and Alistar Campbell themselves won the civil war - not even them could spin this into being a good result.

Fine Geal have had representation in Donegal for decades - Joe McHugh, Dinny McGinley, Paddy Harte -
This is a disaster for Fine Gael

they had there chance to move on from being the small farmer party and they have blown it - Its time Varadker took the saddle and restructerd them into a good solid centre right party (Irish tories for want of a better word) this sitting in the middle FF lite afraid to nail colours to a mast tactic wont work

They took 20% of the vote with Dinny McGinley in 2007!!!!!!! this was a completely new candidate in a Fianna Fail dominated constituency nothing wrong with the result bearing in mind that Doherty just got pipped by the Fine Gael candidate in the last election. I still see no mention of Labours performance. The Fianna FAIL pr machine is in full swing.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 26/11/2010 16:03:33    823388

Paddyogall,

They had plenty of opportunity to get this right and failed miserably !! Just like when they backed Enda instead of Bruton !! But Enda did improve a little and was good during leaders questions yesterday, for a change !!

And You know well i have no time for Fianna Fail but F.G. are giving me no reason to back them with all their mistakes !! How could they lose 5 points since the last election after the F.F. debacle. ? Its Mystifying !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 26/11/2010 16:06:26    823391