51longago
I'm not saying I'm 100% correct or that my analysis is correct. It's an opinion, based on how I see things playing out.
A comeback calling my analysis manure is to say the least amateur. Then again, it's an amateur sport we love, so to be expected.
I'll be the first to say well done, congrats, if Mayo succeed.
I certainly don't see Mayo as the strong favourites they are right now.
AS for 1 up to JOM in terms of selection. I can't accept that, bud. Purely and simply because if he were to put Mayo's best 15 out on the pitch fully fit, then the team starting on Saturday is not that which he would choose.
Dillon out forces him to rejig the whole team. The team revolves around him and he can't start. He may feature, but only if desperate measures are called for.
Johnno is shrewd and knows that Mayo need to take a gamble on pacey forwards. On that front he's relying on Tommy P actually turning up and DM having a big game. I'd have full faith in the Ballina man, but wouldn't be so sure about TP.
JOM needs to get the ball in to the FFs and take a punt on them bagging a few scores early to settle them. Otherwise there are gonna be a lot of very short Mayo finger nails in Sligo @ 5:50pm Saturday evening!
Really looking forward to this one now....

ROFPMSL (Sligo) - Posts: 25 - 03/06/2010 16:42:47    666873

03/06/2010 14:50:58
jono
County: Mayo
Posts: 75

i assume your saying that sligo will win if both teams play to their full ability yet you say mayo are better all round?i think you'll find that makes no sense :)!!

As in you have a better balanced team. Better in backs and midfield and a good 15 rather than a class 3/4 and 12 average players. Galway only played to their full ability for 10 mins in the Connacht final last year. And we clawed back an 8 point defecit. That is near our full ability. Mayo dont have the class to play like that at any stage, but play up to their certain level more consistently.

jafallon (Galway) - Posts: 489 - 03/06/2010 16:43:17    666874

Sligonian, how do you work out prdicting a match, you have said history means nothing, League form means nothing, i presume that includes recent challenge games are out the window too.

So sligo could win by 20 points or Mayo could win by twenty points or it could be a draw, this is the result of your nonsensical formula at predicting a game, it is into the unknown according to you.

We'll see ye Sat night, ye have made your bed now with your silly asumptions about the mighty mayo, that bed will feel like six inch nails sat night, boy ye will be sore.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 03/06/2010 16:48:53    666879

51longago
Seeing as you bring up the topic of how to predict a game, calculations, recent form, past history etc etc and how to ultimately deduce one's analysis...
I'll leave you with these few little titbits of info:
Sligo have scored 6-114 (an average of 16.5 points per game) over the league.
Mayo have scored 9-98 (an average of 15.6 points per game) over the league.
Now I'll give you a little bit of homework to do for your own research purposes....

1. Check out how many of Mayo's 98 points were from play.
2. Write down how many Alan Dillon scored.
3. Without Dillon compare the Top 6 scorers from play from both counties in the league!
4. Contrast the ratio of the Sligo points that were scored from play V the Mayo tally from play.

Get the box of Major ready and give yer nails a good scrub before Saturday evening, coz you're in for a tight evening in Sligo, my friend!

ROFPMSL (Sligo) - Posts: 25 - 03/06/2010 17:23:38    666934

We are not the ones expecting an easy victory 51longago....

League form is important, my confidence is based on the Sligo players, I know everyone of them inside out and this is our strongest side since 02 and maybe better in ways. I went to the odd mayo game aswell.

I think to base your predictions on 125 yr history, and what league your in is seriously flawed. Mayo got to a AI final playing in Div3 IN 1996.

It will take a seriously very good mayo performance to beat us by 1pt. I think the huge pressure is on Mayo, I think there fragile in areas of the team. JOM has based his team selections and training more so than the NFL, which is a mistake IMO, as some players will show well in low intensity matches but not so well in high intensity matches. Sligo are going to be put it to ye whether ye like it or not.

All this talk before is completely irrelavant, none of us know the future, and I just want the game to come around and be over with. I am confident in Sligo putting in a very strong performance. I am not saying we will win, but I am not saying we will lose as there are no guarntees in sport. But we have a great chance and opportunity.

Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1884 - 03/06/2010 17:25:43    666938

s of info:
Sligo have scored 6-114 (an average of 16.5 points per game) over the league.
Mayo have scored 9-98 (an average of 15.6 points per game) over the league.
Now I'll give you a little bit of homework to do for your own research purposes....

1. Check out how many of Mayo's 98 points were from play.
2. Write down how many Alan Dillon scored.
3. Without Dillon compare the Top 6 scorers from play from both counties in the league!
4. Contrast the ratio of the Sligo points that were scored from play V the Mayo tally from play.


Only thing you left out was the difference in divisions, big factor one might think.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 03/06/2010 17:35:38    666951

Last meeting was 08 i think it was 3-10/11 to 7 points, i make it eight of our 15 that started that day will start sat, 7 of Sligos 15 are the same. The more i think about it the more confident i become.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 03/06/2010 18:48:41    667003

51longago&51moreahead
Only thing you left out was the difference in divisions, big factor one might think.

You queried analysis and how it is derived? You lambasted Sligonian and his/her assertions. You assert that mine are "manure"

I've shown you part of how my opinion is derived. Stats, facts, figures. What are yours Einstein?

We play in a better league! lol

As I have already pointed out, Mayo were etremely lucky on the road in a few league games to spring surprise results.

The gap between Div 1 & 2 are not that great. IIRC Mayo got to an All Ireland final in 1996 from the depths of Div 3.

By your rationale then Sligo were unlucky not to have won an All Ireland last year, as they missed a penalty to knock Kerry out of the C'ship and progress to an easy Sam.


You mentioned in another post about Mayo winning by 20 points or Sligo winning by 20 points.

There's a greater chance of Mayo winning the All Ireland than scoring 20 points in any game this c'ship!

Good luck to you and your opinions, my friend...

Carlsberg don't do local bookies, but IF THEY DID, you'd be at the counter waiting for me with my winning bets at ridiculous odds and a pint every time I entered your shop! LOL

ROFPMSL (Sligo) - Posts: 25 - 03/06/2010 19:23:16    667027

51longago
i think sligonian has shown you that it makes no odds what division you are in come championship

"Mayo got to a AI final playing in Div3 IN 1996."

bitchesandhoes (Sligo) - Posts: 118 - 03/06/2010 19:30:49    667031

"Mayo got to a AI final playing in Div3 IN 1996."


Oh dear this getting tedious now, would you not agree the league has become more credible since then? Hence the likes of Kerry doing the double last year.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 03/06/2010 20:06:07    667047

ROFPMSL
You should learn to read posts in full, if responding to that particular post. I will save you the bother, my comment about a twenty point swing either way was in a sarcastic fashion towards another poster.

We will be as well let the lads on the pitch do the talking at this stage as we have different opinions and i will certainly not change mine. Just for the record, i have said Mayo will beat Sligo and beat them well, eight points plus, you have as good as said i should be put in a mental home to come out with such a statement, you have also made snide remarks towards my alleged limited knowledge of the game. This leaves one of us to be very red faced come sat evening.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 03/06/2010 20:39:24    667073

so as soon as we prove you wrong you say that our statistics dont matter?
i used to think you werent such a wum but im sorry to say 51longago thats all you are..

bitchesandhoes (Sligo) - Posts: 118 - 03/06/2010 20:58:05    667087

to all the over confident posters from mayo, can ye tell me of the last easy win we had in markeivicz park? i think alot of ye forget this sligo team should have beaten galway but for one(silly) player picking the ball off the ground within scoring distance of a winning point which lead to galways winning score and kerry but for a missed penalty (in killarney). no doubt sligo smell an upset and so should they after mayos poxy league performance!

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 03/06/2010 21:12:46    667101

to jafallon, this is the sligo that should have beaten ye and i remember mayo were twice 4 points ahead of meath last year. if you are gonna keep up this rubbish about salthill last year, jog on!

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 03/06/2010 21:15:15    667105

51andlongtocontinue...
I didn't question your knowledge of the game, nor make snide remarks about you. Why should I? I don't give a continental about you as an individual, so let's not get into a he said/she said load of bull, please.
I just think that if you genuinely believe that Mayo will win easy by 8 points or more, you should be sectioned.

I spoke to a neighbour of mine yesterday evening. Let's just say he's a Mayoman in exile for the past number of years here in Sligo (and a former true Mayo great of the 80's). Quote: "If we pip Sligo we'll win Connaught, but that's as far as we'll go. I wouldn't be the smallest bit surprised if Sligo beat us. They could take us this year."

You have your opinions and I have mine.

And as you very correctly point out, one of us will have a very red face on Saturday night.

GL to both teams.

Can I offer you a bet of Mayo -7 (that's Mayo winning by 8 points)? I'll give you a generous 2/1.... come back to me on that!

ROFPMSL (Sligo) - Posts: 25 - 03/06/2010 21:50:05    667158

Can I offer you a bet of Mayo -7 (that's Mayo winning by 8 points)? I'll give you a generous 2/1.... come back to me on that!


Hardly generous when the likes of pp are offering 16/5, i have backed Mayo @ - 4 , -5, -6 and -7, i expect to collect on them all but one has to not let the heart rule the head in these circumstances so i had a bigger bet on the minus 4 handicap. I have also layed Sligo to the hilt, i could be homeless if Sligo won i have layed them so much.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 04/06/2010 08:55:08    667188

Spoddgy
County: Mayo
Posts: 28

667105 to jafallon, this is the sligo that should have beaten ye and i remember mayo were twice 4 points ahead of meath last year. if you are gonna keep up this rubbish about salthill last year, jog on!

What does that have to do with anything? I just cant understand how some Mayo people are regarding themselves as nailed on for connacht. Only one team showed up last year, and yet there was still only 1 point in the difference at the end. Its likely to be like that this year if they meet, a point either side. Stop regarding yourselves as favourites, if you get that far its 50/50 at best

jafallon (Galway) - Posts: 489 - 04/06/2010 09:48:34    667221

51longago&soon2Bhomeless
i have backed Mayo @ - 4 , -5, -6 and -7, i expect to collect on them all but one has to not let the heart rule the head in these circumstances so i had a bigger bet on the minus 4 handicap. I have also layed Sligo to the hilt, i could be homeless if Sligo won i have layed them so much.

You are clearly a very successful and shrood gambler!

What'll u give me Sligo +7 at? (Seeing as you see Mayo winning easy by 8+ points)

Just for a bit of an interest...

I might even commence a collection for you outside of Markievicz Park with your stake to kick-start the funds to build a new house!

ROFPMSL (Sligo) - Posts: 25 - 04/06/2010 14:00:55    667582

There will be no red faces on the Sligo side on sat because every Sligo post i have read here have a similar prediction of the score Mayo to win by no more than 3 or Sligo to pip Mayo by 1 or 2 and i think that is a very fair prediction. Its the 8 and 10 points plus boys that will be red faced if it finishes like we predicted.

Benbulben (Sligo) - Posts: 298 - 04/06/2010 15:26:14    667707

There will be no red faces on the Sligo side on sat because every Sligo post i have read here have a similar prediction of the score Mayo to win by no more than 3 or Sligo to pip Mayo by 1 or 2 and i think that is a very fair prediction. Its the 8 and 10 points plus boys that will be red faced if it finishes like we predicted.


Have you read what you just posted? If there was ever a case for sitting on the fence thats it. That is the most cowardly prediction i have ever seen, so what would your money be on? All three possibilities? Goodness me, i have heard it all now.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 04/06/2010 20:00:43    667991