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Hurlers With Potential But Never Quite Made It

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Sorry, have to include Jack guiney here. I know he did have a couple of really good seasons but had the ability to be canning or tj level. Just no discipline."
Was it discipline or did he not work well with Davy? Remember him being in and out of the squad

TheDigger (USA) - Posts: 84 - 29/06/2021 19:53:45    2354721

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Replying To TheDigger:  "Was it discipline or did he not work well with Davy? Remember him being in and out of the squad"
I don't think he worked particularly well with Liam Dunne either

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2625 - 30/06/2021 08:02:01    2354799

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Replying To TheDigger:  "Was it discipline or did he not work well with Davy? Remember him being in and out of the squad"
He didnt work well with Liam Dunne either. Intercounty isnt for everyone I guess.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 30/06/2021 08:54:33    2354800

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Replying To TheDigger:  "Was it discipline or did he not work well with Davy? Remember him being in and out of the squad"
Commitment issues were the main problem.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 30/06/2021 11:00:45    2354846

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Commitment issues were the main problem."
There were a few issues with Jack Guiney which infairness need not be discussed here. As others said, and I have no problem saying it, he was one of the best young hurlers to come out of Wexford in many many years...he had it all..things happen, habits develop, and comittment is not there, and unlike in olden times when lads were full facilitated with the wink and the nod, that day is gone and if no commitment its bye bye...he was one player I would have loved to see go on and have a long senior career, but, it wasnt to be..he did try, but it just didnt happen. A big loss to Wexford hurling, but such is life, someone else gets a chance that might never have gotten a chance...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 30/06/2021 18:36:23    2354985

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "There were a few issues with Jack Guiney which infairness need not be discussed here. As others said, and I have no problem saying it, he was one of the best young hurlers to come out of Wexford in many many years...he had it all..things happen, habits develop, and comittment is not there, and unlike in olden times when lads were full facilitated with the wink and the nod, that day is gone and if no commitment its bye bye...he was one player I would have loved to see go on and have a long senior career, but, it wasnt to be..he did try, but it just didnt happen. A big loss to Wexford hurling, but such is life, someone else gets a chance that might never have gotten a chance..."
Hurling is a team sport.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 30/06/2021 20:09:55    2355005

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "There were a few issues with Jack Guiney which infairness need not be discussed here. As others said, and I have no problem saying it, he was one of the best young hurlers to come out of Wexford in many many years...he had it all..things happen, habits develop, and comittment is not there, and unlike in olden times when lads were full facilitated with the wink and the nod, that day is gone and if no commitment its bye bye...he was one player I would have loved to see go on and have a long senior career, but, it wasnt to be..he did try, but it just didnt happen. A big loss to Wexford hurling, but such is life, someone else gets a chance that might never have gotten a chance..."
Lets say he till a look at what's involved in being an inter County hurler, and decided that it simply wasn't worth the effort. Would you blame him?

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1698 - 02/07/2021 08:47:50    2355320

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Lets say he till a look at what's involved in being an inter County hurler, and decided that it simply wasn't worth the effort. Would you blame him?"
I wouldn't blame him either. Intercounty GAA is now so serious you either make it your life or you forget about it.
Funny, I marked him one night and I think I got the better of him. He was hurling out the field so while theoretically I held him scoreless from play....he is not very fast and I just made his life hell for the hour!
I'm definitely not convinced he was ever in the Conor McDonald/Rory O'Connor category either though.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 02/07/2021 14:15:52    2355408

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "I wouldn't blame him either. Intercounty GAA is now so serious you either make it your life or you forget about it.
Funny, I marked him one night and I think I got the better of him. He was hurling out the field so while theoretically I held him scoreless from play....he is not very fast and I just made his life hell for the hour!
I'm definitely not convinced he was ever in the Conor McDonald/Rory O'Connor category either though."
He was more of a playmaker than an out and out forward like Rory and Mac. He was never particularly fast even underage. Cant believe we are still talking about him after all these years.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 02/07/2021 16:24:00    2355431

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i was at the league final offaly won that roy mannion was man of the match in. he was really a giant of a hurler. hugely skillful, massive physicality with the hurling world at his feet. at that time he was regarded as the best we had. what happened after was a tragedy really. maybe should have been managed better by eamon cregan but im sure theres 2 sides to every story..whos to say if he had played on offaly might have won 3 or 4 all irelands such was his talent. but 2 was a good haul really i suppose.

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 02/07/2021 19:59:33    2355451

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Replying To Viking66:  "He was more of a playmaker than an out and out forward like Rory and Mac. He was never particularly fast even underage. Cant believe we are still talking about him after all these years."
It's not that many years in fairness. He started the 2017 leinster final

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2625 - 02/07/2021 20:16:46    2355453

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "It's not that many years in fairness. He started the 2017 leinster final"
Its 4 years now Doylerwex!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 02/07/2021 22:09:45    2355480

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Aaron Cunningham of Wolfe Tones in Clare was another guy who showed really well but seemed to fade away.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1898 - 03/07/2021 13:22:32    2355580

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Replying To Bon:  "Aaron Cunningham of Wolfe Tones in Clare was another guy who showed really well but seemed to fade away."
That's right

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 05/07/2021 00:09:12    2356335

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Replying To kavvie:  "i was at the league final offaly won that roy mannion was man of the match in. he was really a giant of a hurler. hugely skillful, massive physicality with the hurling world at his feet. at that time he was regarded as the best we had. what happened after was a tragedy really. maybe should have been managed better by eamon cregan but im sure theres 2 sides to every story..whos to say if he had played on offaly might have won 3 or 4 all irelands such was his talent. but 2 was a good haul really i suppose."
We got 94 and 98 but Roy Mannion was gone before 94 championship so he has no AI senior medal...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 05/07/2021 00:13:57    2356336

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