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Gerry Adams and his finishing speech.

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How can Adams finish off his speech with tiocfaidh ar la.Maybe when the so called war was on that was ok but now how will the otherside view them words our day will come to what. To rule the unionist.Another thing why does he make comments about an Irish Government. He doesn't have a vote here and has no rights to make snide comments about our elected representatives .North of the border is his home.

david09 (Kildare) - Posts: 115 - 06/03/2010 21:09:31    580930

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Kettle's on brew up time.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9825 - 06/03/2010 21:37:31    580949

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So you are a partitionist then. Are you also a unionist? And do you believe that the all Ireland is an international contest. Or are you simply a WUM

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 06/03/2010 21:40:47    580956

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I like those wee maple buns with nuts you get in Tesco, having one now with a coffee.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9825 - 06/03/2010 21:58:28    580973

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i enjoyed adams speach

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11691 - 07/03/2010 11:25:25    581016

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david09,
Of course adams has a right to criticise our government. He's the leader of an all Ireland based party. I thought his speech was excellent and I do believe sinn fein are the only party who would actually do what they say if in government. I dont agree with left wing politics but Adams does seem genuine which cant be said for ANY politician in the Dail who supports the government.

Scruffy2Donut (Cavan) - Posts: 1112 - 07/03/2010 12:10:39    581033

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david09
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How can Adams finish off his speech with tiocfaidh ar la.Maybe when the so called war was on that was ok but now how will the otherside view them words our day will come to what. To rule the unionist.Another thing why does he make comments about an Irish Government. He doesn't have a vote here and has no rights to make snide comments about our elected representatives .North of the border is his home.


Sinn Fein have seats in the Dail, and on councils in the Free State. Therefore the party leader is entitled to comment on those affairs in the Free state.

I just wish he could get his Irish right, the correct version, minus fadas and such is "beidh ar Lá Linn".

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 07/03/2010 12:32:50    581038

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Did any one figure out who NORMA is ?
Whover she is he clearly does not like her.

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 07/03/2010 13:09:36    581053

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Great to see the people of Kildare are sticking up for the aul unionists... Hang ur head in shame.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 07/03/2010 14:24:12    581090

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Patrique,
No offence to your knowledge lad, but a republic was declared in southern Ireland in 1949. We're not a free state anymore, we're completely free and independent. And I find your use of the term Free State offensive. OK???

Scruffy2Donut (Cavan) - Posts: 1112 - 07/03/2010 14:24:43    581092

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Scruffy2Donut
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Patrique,
No offence to your knowledge lad, but a republic was declared in southern Ireland in 1949. We're not a free state anymore, we're completely free and independent. And I find your use of the term Free State offensive. OK???


On the 1st January 1949 under Costello? yes, I actually am a qualified Irish History teacher, and have published stuff on the subject.

I was replying to David09.

Sorry about that, but he will understand.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 07/03/2010 15:32:20    581126

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Scruffy2Donut
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david09,
Of course adams has a right to criticise our government. He's the leader of an all Ireland based party. I thought his speech was excellent and I do believe sinn fein are the only party who would actually do what they say if in government. I dont agree with left wing politics but Adams does seem genuine



Scruffy, sorry about the Free state thing, aimed at someone else.

But what has Sinn Fein got to do with left wing politics? Because I am for left wing politics, and Fianna Gael and Fianna Fail would be far to the left of the Shinners.

Sinn fein are the MOST right wing party in Europe, let alone Ireland.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 07/03/2010 15:35:14    581128

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Scruffy2Donut
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And I find your use of the term Free State offensive. OK???


Offensive? You are very senstive Scruffy2Donut? The patch of a land you come from was British ruled and now its not, you're free as you say and you find that offensive?? Would you rather Cavan was still under British rule and then you couldn't be offended by terms like 'free state' . Would that be a better option for you?

Meath_bhoy (Meath) - Posts: 590 - 07/03/2010 15:39:52    581133

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LOL you are right there Patrique, the Shinners are as about as left wing as Ghenghis Khan. They are part of a centre right partnership in the North and have embraced the Public/Private Initiatives (PPI's) with glee. The Shinners have also bought into the low paid anti-trade union multi call centre market which is akin to a modern coalmine in respect of working conditions. Sinn Fein think it's wonderful to endorse 200 'no working rights at all' call centre jobs at the expense of real ones with proper conditions. It's no wonder they voted NOT to rule out coalition government in the South because Sinn Fein would go down well with the economic right wingers there.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9825 - 07/03/2010 16:36:06    581169

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Meath_bhoy
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581133 Scruffy2Donut
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And I find your use of the term Free State offensive. OK???


Offensive? You are very senstive Scruffy2Donut? The patch of a land you come from was British ruled and now its not, you're free as you say and you find that offensive?? Would you rather Cavan was still under British rule and then you couldn't be offended by terms like 'free state' . Would that be a better option for you?

No you've twisted my words and taken them out of context. You see Patrique said that I live in a Free state. I dont. I live in a republic and am proud to say i do. But you see some staunch unionists often use the term Free state as a derogatory term for the republic of ireland. Thats why I find it offensive.

Scruffy2Donut (Cavan) - Posts: 1112 - 07/03/2010 16:44:28    581176

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Patrique, you asked what has sinn fein got to do with left wing politics? Well there are a few reasons why I consider them left wing. First they talk about building an Ireland of equals. The whole equality thing is a left wing ideology. Secondly they advocate republicanism. Again republicanism is associated with the left, eg the spanish civil war. Some of their economic policies have left wing overtones, i.e tax the rich more. I recall a speech by gerry adams a while back I cant remember when or where it was, but he said he was willing to form an alliance with left wing parties in the south, saying the labour party had a duty not to prop up fianna fail or fine gael. Gerry Adams talks about basic human rights all the time, again a left wing ideology. And their website calls for a socialist 32 county republic. They want to nationalise the banks giving the state a greater role in the economy, again associated with the left. And the biggest giveaway of all....They sit with the European United Left-Nordic green left in the European parliament.

Scruffy2Donut (Cavan) - Posts: 1112 - 07/03/2010 16:56:52    581188

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Cant say i know much about politics but i thought gerry admas spoke very well and as others have said of course he can comment on the current irish goverment as he is the head of sinn fein who are an all ireland party.

it'll be crazy if the same goverment that brought the south 2 it's knees get voted back in again or fine gael 4 that matter the best of it is they have the knack 2 criticise sinn fein and it's policies and try 2 make out like sinn fein dont know what they are doing an people actually believe them.

duke_raul (Tyrone) - Posts: 993 - 07/03/2010 17:35:25    581215

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Scruffy2Donut
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But you see some staunch unionists often use the term Free state as a derogatory term for the republic of ireland. Thats why I find it offensive.


Never heard a unionist refer to it as the "Free State" in my life.

But usually, Nationalists, Republicans and GAA supporters DO, as a a matter of course..

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 07/03/2010 17:49:29    581235

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Scruffy2Donut
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Scruffy, what politicians say and what they do are two entirely different things.

As for republicans, Oliver Croimwell was a republican but hardly left wing. The main right wing party in the USA is the Republican party, although I take your point about the Spanish Civil war.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 07/03/2010 18:41:30    581292

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ruanua
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Did any one figure out who NORMA is ?
Whover she is he clearly does not like her.


I actually feel sorry for her parents. How does he know NORMA was 'ill concieved'?

JuanVeron (Westmeath) - Posts: 1866 - 07/03/2010 19:05:09    581329

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