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Just read an interview with DJ Carey on Fitzgibbon Cup competition. He pointed out the crazy schedule players had last year. County teams were training in the morning and players playing Fitzgibbon cup in the evening. Maybe it is time to limit the number of teams anyone player can play for. I know in football last year you couldn't play U-20 and Senior. Maybe that should be extended across the board. If you are on a Senior county panel you can not play in any other competition running at the same time. It would give lesser players more games and exposure to county selectors. It would cut down on the wear and tear of county players. Senior players are excluded from U-20 and College teams. The competitions would still be top class and competitive, and management would know who is available to them. With the new schedule this would have no effect on the clubs. gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 318 - 22/12/2020 14:15:16 2325395 Link 0 |
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Limiting number of teams some people play for should happen but in the main coaches across all the teams a player may be involved in need to be working together on how players train. Like Rugby you have players in the season playing for max of 3/4 teams but theyre not over training which happens far too much within the GAA. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3494 - 22/12/2020 15:39:56 2325428 Link 0 |
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100% agree. Senior county players should not be available to under 20 county teams or college teams. These are development level competitions and should not be available to senior county players. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4194 - 22/12/2020 16:07:18 2325432 Link 5 |
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I tend to agree. But I'd distinguish where a fella was brought in for an odd game to cover an injury crisis from a fella who was a regular member of the squad. I'd say once you've played 3/4/5/number-of-your-choice senior games, you can't go back to Under 20. lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 475 - 22/12/2020 16:20:32 2325438 Link 0 |
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That would mean senior county players losing their university scholarships though, they only get them if they play with the University team. Or lads who are on these scholarships not playing County, which could be 6/7 lads from a county at any one time. As ever with these things the solution is with the players and managers, why is DJ selecting a lad to play who was training with his county on the morning of a game?
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 22/12/2020 17:59:59 2325465 Link 1 |
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Yeah fair
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4194 - 22/12/2020 18:33:42 2325480 Link 4 |
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Whatever system is implemented,, coaching vultures will still find a way to squeeze every last drop out of their players,, if matches are cancelled,, they'll just make them train,, if a player who now plays for 6 teams in the new era only plays for three,, those three managers will just make them train twice as much. It's up to the players to look after themselves,,id like to see them being educated on the consequences of over training. No matter how much you enjoy playing I don't see why you'd want to play for so many different teams anyway. You might as well have a 2nd full time job. Least that way you'd get paid. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1694 - 22/12/2020 19:29:42 2325498 Link 2 |
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Maybe the GPA should step in. The GPA was organized for Players welfare. gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 318 - 22/12/2020 20:24:59 2325514 Link 1 |
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would it? There is plenty of rugby players who are on scholarships and they rarely if ever play with the universities in games. From guys in NUIG with connacht who never play rugby for NUIG what would you do instead? there is too many players expected to play for far too many teams in a year. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3494 - 22/12/2020 23:45:44 2325573 Link 0 |
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A problem in the GAA is that training demands at every level are a unrecognisable compared to the past, but the attitude that every player should play at every competition at every level available to him has been very slow to change. It's only in recent years with removing the overlap between minor and adult, barring U20s from senior etc. that we've started to address this, but there's still a way to go with the likes of the college competitions. CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1642 - 23/12/2020 12:13:12 2325634 Link 3 |
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The schedule is at its worst for the Fitzgibbon player. I trained for Fitzgibbon a few years ago, got back home the next night and absolutely aching, I told the trainer in the expectation that he'd let me off the really hard stuff. His response was "do you want to make this team or not". Went and trained and tore a calf muscle in the training. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1729 - 23/12/2020 15:39:35 2325681 Link 0 |