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I think the knockout element is what made it so special this year. Any other year Kerry, Tyrone and Donegal would have dusted themselves off and probably ended up in the semis anyway. Kerry lost to Cork a few times in Munster during the 00's only to come back and hammer them later in the Championship for example. I'm not sure if this was a factor in some of the surprise results or not, but if we return to a back door / super 8 setup it'll be more of what we've seen in recent years in my opinion. I'd agree that this year has been thrilling but it's an anomaly in my opinion. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 22/11/2020 22:25:23 2313539 Link 2 |
At least with other sports, players can be transferred from one region to the next. With the Dublin setup, they have a potential pick of over 4000 current adult playing footballers compare that to Westmeath with a potential pick of 800 current adult footballers. I don't see the reason why Dublin can't be split seeing that they are nearly a province in their own right. There is definitely county standard footballers in Dublin who will never play a county game
Updlocal (Meath) - Posts: 8 - 22/11/2020 22:58:14 2313558 Link 0 |
Whatever is or isn't done about provincial championships. For the love of God keep Dublin out of Ulster! The Ulster Championship has a great dynamic, great history, great rivalries etc. Why do we want to throw that all away by inviting a team from the middle of leinster in to it? And that's no disrespect to Dublin at all. The provinces have competed as they are for over 130 years. Don't go redrawing boundaries! DL_Man (Donegal) - Posts: 145 - 22/11/2020 23:11:42 2313568 Link 0 |
What about them? There's Premier league footballers that'd find the Dublin S&C regime too tough. That's why they're so good and won't accept second best. Premier League teams are not counties.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7336 - 22/11/2020 23:32:09 2313582 Link 3 |
Exactly. See what it means to the Tipp footballers today and you have folks who want it to end. Tipp would have been if in B championship because they are in Div 3.
Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 738 - 22/11/2020 23:35:33 2313584 Link 0 |
put dublin and kerry in the one province and the other teams bases on leaque format . maybe someone could list the teams for super province lor12 (Wicklow) - Posts: 238 - 23/11/2020 00:05:46 2313595 Link 0 |
jesus you might as well tog a few lads out from kilkenny and make a new provence with london and new york.
GameofTyronesIsBackhere (Tyrone) - Posts: 46 - 23/11/2020 00:45:12 2313600 Link 0 |
Anyone in Casement would be great! :)
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5010 - 23/11/2020 08:37:22 2313626 Link 3 |
This is the best solution out there - hands down. - Gives teams a defined season - Competitive matches every weekend as teams are playing at their own level - The provincial championships are still in place (impossible to remove and the root of all problems) - Excitement of knockout at the end to reveal the All-Ireland Champions People will say but you dont have this and you dont have that. No solution can meet all needs. This one is similar to team competition structures used across the world that have worked for many years. We seem to be the only sport constantly unhappy about the way we're set-up. Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 23/11/2020 08:53:18 2313630 Link 0 |
Gaelic Football should have two competitions where Dublin can annually showcase the way professionals can play Gaelic football. Dublin can invite teams from around the country to the capital for these exhibition games. The first humiliation can be done provincially and the second on an all island basis. jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 260 - 23/11/2020 09:14:51 2313641 Link 0 |
Have you heard of the sport called hurling? Not so long since Antrim and Galway both competed in the Leinster Championship.
daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 23/11/2020 09:55:53 2313661 Link 0 |
At the end of the day the Gaa is a business. It was set up for sport and pleasure but it is now a money making business with officials getting paid and corporate sections etc. The gaa are not going to have straight knockout because they would lose revenue. The more games the more money.Knockout is defibately more exciting but I can't see it happening. Most things the gaa do is about money. Why did the gaa want dubs in Croker? Answer they can fill it 8 or 9 times out of ten. Even Mayo can't do that. Why did gaa want Mayo Kildare in Croker? Because they could fill it. Why did gaa keep Cork and Kerry apart for years in munster? Because they could charge full price for a final but could nt for an earlier round. The super 8 s etc and qualifiers were all about money. I know most posters on here did nt want a championship but we have had some great games and terrific excitement all produced so far by the so called weaker counties. Look at the excitement of Corks late goal and yesterday's joyous and gallant performances by Cavan and Tipp. Yesterday showed me the provincial have to stay in some shape or form but ko championship is so exciting. The championship needs change yes and I don't know the answer. Maybe a home and away type like championship. Yesterday will live long in the memory though so thanks you to Cork Donegal and especially Tipp and Cavan. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3674 - 23/11/2020 10:03:30 2313670 Link 2 |
Leinster championship not great at the moment but the GAA won't have a stand alone solution for Leinster only. Dublin are dominating but the provincial championships has positives for 3 of the 4 provinces, there is a good chance for quiet a few teams to win major honours. An open draw would remove this for many teams. This gives an incentive for players from more counties to keep committing and a better opportunity for their teams to develop. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1338 - 23/11/2020 11:10:56 2313781 Link 0 |
I kind of think the limited preparations and being played in less than perfect conditions were a huge levelling factor though too. Also there's just a bit of variance. Shocks happen. The big shock was Cork v Kerry. Cavan v Donegal and Tipp v Cork is a small shock too. Things came together a bit for great stories. Some people seem to be saying this season is proof that knockout the way to go. I'm far from convinced. It was a unique championship this year. The novelty factor and levelling factors added to it. There's a lot still not to like about straight knockout provincials leading to semifinals. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 23/11/2020 12:38:36 2313872 Link 3 |
I don't get the logic here. Dublin have Cavan now to overcome, their route to a 6 All Ireland has only gotten easier this year. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 23/11/2020 12:40:49 2313878 Link 5 |
Its clear that Leinster is the outlier with Dublin's dominance. Here is what is different in Leinster: unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1222 - 23/11/2020 14:22:17 2314007 Link 0 |
. . . . . . .i'm all right Jack attitude is clearly part of the problem, for that reason there will never be a solution to the obvious problem, no solution, no fix.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 23/11/2020 20:59:35 2314296 Link 0 |
Too much stress and demands around football it seems so I don't get caught up in it, if your not enjoying it then find another sport, hurling only for me love it no stress and little worries, less posting needed.
Cuhullain (Kildare) - Posts: 271 - 24/11/2020 10:12:14 2314497 Link 0 |
Watch his interview with OTB. Good points made about funding but doesn't attack Dublin. Moyles is on as well and he made the point that more funding is needed but county boards need to put good people in place like Dublin did. Connellan retweeted an article by a Sligo player from 2018 who said the GAA needs to pay a lot more attention to what county boards are doing with funds. I agree with that. They should be regularly assessing progress within counties. No reason why Sligo shouldn't be competitive. They have a similar population to Roscommon. Sligo Rovers don't pull enough players or fans away. Sligo town has 3 clubs within its boundaries.
Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 738 - 25/11/2020 03:54:20 2315080 Link 0 |