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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I'm afraid not Username. I did nt meet the farmer alas. True small grounds can generate a great atmosphere when full. In provincial games a home and away arrangement is best. We have it in munster. On corporate seating I'd guess it would have to be much cheaper in other stadia as they won't have the biggest games. The corporate boxes won't worry me unless I win lotto lol."
If you ever get the chance, the corporate boxes are a good experience, I've been in them in Croker a handful of times mostly on the Hogan side and once in the Canal end. I've no idea how much they cost, as the times I snagged a ticket I was invited via friends. Free gargle (not sure if that depends on the box), decent seats and a chicken Gojan and cocktail sausage at half time, they ask you want you want to drink at half time and have it waiting for you when you come in. Other weird things is coming in at half time and you can see the Sunday game analysis on a TV, then back out for the second half. There is usually a few ex players knocking around to as guests and you can have some good talk and craic with them once, your sound. Tip for the top give the girls getting your drinks as a score at the start and another at the end, they'll look after you superbly and never let you run dry, their good craic too.

I'm not sure what they cost, they are all company boxes but in sure it's 10'sk a year. It's a nice expierence on a rare occasion, but in all honesty I wouldn't want it every game, I'd prefer drinking the well cooled bottles knocking about Drumcondra with the gang, hitting the game and being down with our own, if I'm being honest being up there, it's not the same. But free beer is free beer.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 14/11/2020 01:20:43    2308592

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Replying To KillingFields:  "PUC already has corporate part of ground and all big modern grounds should have some corporate seats/boxes in this day and age."
why?
they get used a handful of times per year,and sit idle.
you might get value for corporate entertainment in croke park,where people are happy to go for the experience of a big game,whether or not they are interested in the game.
i have gotten a couple of invites in my life to a corporate box from a drinks supplier.it was great but at least 50% of those who were there had either no interest in the game and were there because it was a big game and a day of free drink.
you won't get that same appeal for any game in any other ground outside of croke park.i dont see a corporate box in wexford park or thurles or limerick having any similar appeal and would be another big gaa white elephant.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 14/11/2020 12:53:27    2308661

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Replying To perfect10:  "why?
they get used a handful of times per year,and sit idle.
you might get value for corporate entertainment in croke park,where people are happy to go for the experience of a big game,whether or not they are interested in the game.
i have gotten a couple of invites in my life to a corporate box from a drinks supplier.it was great but at least 50% of those who were there had either no interest in the game and were there because it was a big game and a day of free drink.
you won't get that same appeal for any game in any other ground outside of croke park.i dont see a corporate box in wexford park or thurles or limerick having any similar appeal and would be another big gaa white elephant."
The grounds can be used for far more than match days even in smaller towns and areas if you have appropriate facilities.
Ive only been to a match once in a corporate area and that was in croke park a few years back for a tipp game. wouldnt say most who were there had little interest in the game.
have worked in bars in corporate areas at games in the aviva. and the fans were very much interested in the game. especially the soccer games.
you very much would get people to get into the games.
you would get more money into the game as these tickets can be sold for more.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3494 - 14/11/2020 13:45:22    2308670

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Replying To TheUsername:  "If you ever get the chance, the corporate boxes are a good experience, I've been in them in Croker a handful of times mostly on the Hogan side and once in the Canal end. I've no idea how much they cost, as the times I snagged a ticket I was invited via friends. Free gargle (not sure if that depends on the box), decent seats and a chicken Gojan and cocktail sausage at half time, they ask you want you want to drink at half time and have it waiting for you when you come in. Other weird things is coming in at half time and you can see the Sunday game analysis on a TV, then back out for the second half. There is usually a few ex players knocking around to as guests and you can have some good talk and craic with them once, your sound. Tip for the top give the girls getting your drinks as a score at the start and another at the end, they'll look after you superbly and never let you run dry, their good craic too.

I'm not sure what they cost, they are all company boxes but in sure it's 10'sk a year. It's a nice expierence on a rare occasion, but in all honesty I wouldn't want it every game, I'd prefer drinking the well cooled bottles knocking about Drumcondra with the gang, hitting the game and being down with our own, if I'm being honest being up there, it's not the same. But free beer is free beer."
I was up there once for 09 quarter final Kerry v Dublin in canal end. Enjoyable yes for sure but I think I'd prefer to ve there for a neutral game and down in the ordinary seats when my county is playing. Have been in the premium a bit too but not for semis or finals. Yes always ex players hovering around there too.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3673 - 14/11/2020 13:45:46    2308671

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Replying To perfect10:  "why?
they get used a handful of times per year,and sit idle.
you might get value for corporate entertainment in croke park,where people are happy to go for the experience of a big game,whether or not they are interested in the game.
i have gotten a couple of invites in my life to a corporate box from a drinks supplier.it was great but at least 50% of those who were there had either no interest in the game and were there because it was a big game and a day of free drink.
you won't get that same appeal for any game in any other ground outside of croke park.i dont see a corporate box in wexford park or thurles or limerick having any similar appeal and would be another big gaa white elephant."
Correct Perfect. At least Croke Park you have a few concerts and a lot more games than say Cork. Also I agree from my experience even in the premium level (only corporate once) that a certain amount have absolutely no interest in the games and are there more for a day out.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3673 - 14/11/2020 13:50:30    2308673

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Correct Perfect. At least Croke Park you have a few concerts and a lot more games than say Cork. Also I agree from my experience even in the premium level (only corporate once) that a certain amount have absolutely no interest in the games and are there more for a day out."
Cork will be getting more concerts i imagine. They help make a lot for stadiums especially when you wont have games there every week.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3494 - 14/11/2020 14:10:56    2308680

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Replying To football first:  "1000 spectators were allowed into Windsor park for the soccer match last night. So would playing games in Newry, Armagh, Enniskillen or Omagh be an option, taking advantage of the different COVID restrictions in the six counties?"
This is a crazy suggestion, you would bring fire and damnation on the GAA. NI is a complete disaster in relation to Covid a 1000 people travelling up there would be a disaster waiting to happen for GAA

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 14/11/2020 14:57:25    2308698

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Replying To football first:  "Mayo v Donegal in the final in Enniskillen - with 500 spectators allowed in from each team. You could even have a live televised draw for the Golden Tickets!!"
And 14 day quarantine for all in a disused internment museum.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 14/11/2020 15:00:00    2308701

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Cork will be getting more concerts i imagine. They help make a lot for stadiums especially when you wont have games there every week."
Yeah you prob right. They ll have to really.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3673 - 14/11/2020 15:42:31    2308718

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Replying To arock:  "This is a crazy suggestion, you would bring fire and damnation on the GAA. NI is a complete disaster in relation to Covid a 1000 people travelling up there would be a disaster waiting to happen for GAA"
Yes it's wrong but funny enough in the gaa games there are certainly more people going than should be. There are dieticians etc going as part of backroom team. The gaa should only allow a certain number of backroom team in. Some counties are bringing 60 70 people with them. Also some ex players are getting into games on the pretence of reporters as they write newspaper articles. The only people allowed in should be commentators Co commentators and the analysists on the day. Players that write articles should not be left in and it shows total disrespect to the rest of us that can't go. They can watch it on TV like the rest of us.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3673 - 14/11/2020 15:49:56    2308724

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Really surprised to see Dublin playing in Croker tomorrow after the GAA's big spin in recent years saying that the only reason Dublin play in croker is because the Dubs put bums in seats. There will no bums in the seats with covid so why is this still going ahead? I am genuinely interested to know if there is a reason? Leinster final fair enough (Just about) but tomorrow game in croker is a joke! And yes the semis and Final i think should be in croker....

letterkennyGuy (Donegal) - Posts: 153 - 14/11/2020 15:53:49    2308729

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Yes it's wrong but funny enough in the gaa games there are certainly more people going than should be. There are dieticians etc going as part of backroom team. The gaa should only allow a certain number of backroom team in. Some counties are bringing 60 70 people with them. Also some ex players are getting into games on the pretence of reporters as they write newspaper articles. The only people allowed in should be commentators Co commentators and the analysists on the day. Players that write articles should not be left in and it shows total disrespect to the rest of us that can't go. They can watch it on TV like the rest of us.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 454 - 14/11/2020 15:49:56What would you see as the max number of backroom staff allowed into a ground for a game?
Agree with you. there was article a while back about pro rugby and numbers allowed into games link
wonder how many are going into gaa games in comparison.


Really surprised to see Dublin playing in Croker tomorrow after the GAA's big spin in recent years saying that the only reason Dublin play in croker is because the Dubs put bums in seats. There will no bums in the seats with covid so why is this still going ahead? I am genuinely interested to know if there is a reason? Leinster final fair enough (Just about) but tomorrow game in croker is a joke! And yes the semis and Final i think should be in croker....

letterkennyGuy (Donegal) - Posts: 97 - 14/11/2020 15:53:49 is it surprising.
Dublin do need to move out of croke park more but with covid they should be playing in croke park
of course leinster final should be in croke park. doesnt make sense not to play leinster final there.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3494 - 14/11/2020 16:20:15    2308746

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Replying To SurelyToGod:  "
Replying To KillingFields:  "I've no doubt about that, and I don't disagree, but my assertion is that for counties on the west coast, players and management would not prefer an empty Croke Park over a neutral venue half-way between semi-finalists or finalists.
SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 183 - 11/11/2020 18:43:36I would be very surprised players wouldnt prefer playing in an empty Croke Park over another ground. Name what county of those left that would pick another ground over Croke Park?

I can guarantee you that players from Donegal would not rather a 8 hour round trip to play in an empty Croke Park. There's no team busses, they have to drive themselves, catch yourself on! They would much rather a neutral venue where both sets of teams are limited equally and fairly in their preparations.

I would sincerely doubt that Cork, Mayo, Galway would either.
SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 183 - 11/11/2020 12:40:40 Where does it say players have to drive themselves?
What neutral venues would you suggest be used?


Outside of Croke Park, how many pitches would be guaranteed to be playable in the event of two very bad weeks of weather in December? Not many, I suspect.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 208 - 11/11/2020 16:41:57Plenty. They have groundsmen do most not?"
Because of the lack of motorway I would imagine Donegal would prefer a neutral venue that is half-way. Some parts of the county are over 4 hours from the capital by car.

GAA team have been told to avoid the use of team busses to mitigate risk of spreading the virus. Three weeks ago Donegal players drove to Kerry.

As for potential venues, I can't answer that really. That is an obstacle in itself, and if there is no appropriate neutral venue close to halfway between counties then both teams would have to accept that.

There's only really three that would make geographical sense for Donegal and Dublin for example. I see no reason Clones could not be used if the fixture is fixed for an early throw in. Breffni Park, and Pearse Park are the other alternatives. Many of that current Dublin team won the U21 All Ireland v Donegal in Breffni in 2010.

I could only imagine that west coast teams would rather these potential venues be tested for suitability in the interest of fairness due to restricted travelling arrangements during covid."
They had to turn on the lights in Breffni today in the second half. The game started at 1.30.
I don't Clones would be an option. Ulster final won't be in Clones this year either.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 14/11/2020 16:38:37    2308757

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Replying To Saynothing:  "No bigger basket cases than the Irish government who still allowed flights in form USA at the height of this covid thing. Still a good result for Slovakia, happy days."
Flights from the USA were not the cause of spikes here. And you can't stop flights completely. We need them for exports/imports. Look at the cases in NI again today ffs.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 14/11/2020 17:27:48    2308783

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Flights from the USA were not the cause of spikes here. And you can't stop flights completely. We need them for exports/imports. Look at the cases in NI again today ffs."
How the f are people on planes exports/imports ffs.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 15/11/2020 10:21:58    2309051

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Ulster Final ?
Play it in Celtic Park.
Pitch is Perfect.

IssacBall (Derry) - Posts: 51 - 15/11/2020 20:21:34    2309597

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