We peaked against Galway i couldnt see us repeating the same performance in the space of a week against a Kk side who were all out to win and very hungry but Tipp will definitly win the final!
fathermurphy (Wexford) - Posts: 330 - 04/04/2018 08:52:43
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when are they headed on the training camp?
comc (Wexford) - Posts: 109 - 04/04/2018 09:50:59
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After we best clare davy said he was going to give the last a 3/4 weeks off. A break might be ok for them. Do you all think that will happen after sunday? We have an extra week off at the start which i think he needs to take advantage of cinsidering we have 4 games in a row. Also, hopefully galway player ng kilkenny a week before they ckne to wexford park could be an opportunity for use to beat them at home. Im not sure when they have their bye week but id be hoping its not before they play kilkenny. I was listening to the GAA Hour podcast yesterday and Cheddar Plunkett the old laois manager was suggesting that what will worry davy more about sunday is the lack of fight towards the end when they got back i to the game and how it seemed to him that they downed tools for about 25 minutes in the first half. He also said we played very reactive.
Wexboi92 (Wexford) - Posts: 74 - 04/04/2018 10:21:48
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Replying To comc: "when are they headed on the training camp?" I think its 25-29th of April but im open for correction. Might be leaving 24th.
hurler101 (Wexford) - Posts: 471 - 04/04/2018 11:28:11
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Disappointing result and performance on Sunday . We seemed flat and very heavy legged. It was by far our worst performance in a league where we have performed consistently well. Wouldn't get too down hearted though . Have spoken to one or two of the players they know they are much better than we showed on Sunday. Remember we were hammered at the same stage last year. League is Only a warm up for championship and I am convinced we will take one or two scalps again before the year is out . There is a few address however . Corner back is a bit of an issue. Donohue was poor on Sunday maybe Eoin Moore will fill in when he returns from injury or even Conor Firman who has done well. Chin nd Nolan have also been clearly carrying injuries and will be hopefully a huge help fully fit come championship.Rory again was excellent on Sunday and the good thing is he hasn't even reached full fitness following his injury. Tomkins and Guiney will be back over the coming weeks and I would expect both to play a huge part. The lads now have 3 weeks off and hopefully raring to get back to work again for their training camp. The Dublin and Offaly games will be difficult but they are games we should be winning . Win those we are into the quarter finals guaranteed and can play without any pressure and tear into Galway then Kk for a place in the Leinster final. The lads have gave us some great days this year already and hopefully we have more to come over the summer!!
Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 04/04/2018 12:21:41
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unfair on any lad doing college exams to expect him to head on a training camp.hurling is supposed to be a hobby,pasttime,etc and any player who is forced to choose should tell davy and co where to go.
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 04/04/2018 12:47:41
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Right lads want to know what team yeas would go with with everyone fit and available including all our injured players and returning to squad players 15 on 15 no sweeper??i would go with fanning reck Ryan breen foley o hanlon o Connor foley Nolan guiney shore chin Rory o Connor Mac d o keefe.... subs o Leary firman Bryne Moore Murphy Tomkins Morris Dunbar dunne McGovern
gannett83 (Wexford) - Posts: 322 - 04/04/2018 17:26:27
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Pointless including likes of Shore god knows if he will ever be back to hurl with Wexford again. Looking at the current squad if everyone is fit I would go with 1. Fanning , 2.Reck 3. Ryan 4.Donohue (looked good here for most league but we are lacking in this area). 5.Foley 6.Hanlon 7.O Keefe 8.K Foley 9. J O Connor ( We aren't getting the best out of him and I think midfield would suit him) 10. Aidan Nolan (Providing he can shake off his back problems was flying early season ) 11. Chin 12. Rory O Connor (Has the potential to light up the championship) 13. Guiney (Time for him to deliver on his potential) 14. Mac 15.Dunne ( When when he is fully fit he is a real handful ). That leaves us with a lot of options on the bench Moore, Devereux, Donohoe covering the backs and Morris, Tomkins, Dunbar ,Harry Kehoe and maybe even Liam Og giving us plenty of options coming off the bench.
Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 04/04/2018 18:19:26
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Replying To gannett83: "Right lads want to know what team yeas would go with with everyone fit and available including all our injured players and returning to squad players 15 on 15 no sweeper??i would go with fanning reck Ryan breen foley o hanlon o Connor foley Nolan guiney shore chin Rory o Connor Mac d o keefe.... subs o Leary firman Bryne Moore Murphy Tomkins Morris Dunbar dunne McGovern" Will Breen be back for the championship? Surely Devereux, Donohue and Harry Kehoe have to be in the matchday squad? And Aaron Maddock also on the bench. What about Joe O Connor had an excellent Fitzgibbon apparently. O Regan and Colm Kehoe havnt been seen yet either. We ve definitely got our best pool of players weve had in a long time! Hopefully the lads will be fully refreshed in 6 weeks time. I also think Offaly and Dublin arent going to be the pushovers some people think they are. Our record against both in the last 10 years isnt great. And both are likely to have at least 1 good game- hopefully both get a last minute win against Kilkenny!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 04/04/2018 18:20:03
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Replying To Viking66: "Will Breen be back for the championship? Surely Devereux, Donohue and Harry Kehoe have to be in the matchday squad? And Aaron Maddock also on the bench. What about Joe O Connor had an excellent Fitzgibbon apparently. O Regan and Colm Kehoe havnt been seen yet either. We ve definitely got our best pool of players weve had in a long time! Hopefully the lads will be fully refreshed in 6 weeks time. I also think Offaly and Dublin arent going to be the pushovers some people think they are. Our record against both in the last 10 years isnt great. And both are likely to have at least 1 good game- hopefully both get a last minute win against Kilkenny!" No breen at all I was just thinking down the track fantasizing really if everyone was fit and available... yes Donohoe would probably be on bench instead of Bryne but the bench I picked is strong.. I also agree and I have been saying the same for months now that Dublin is the most important game can't state that enough we have to win it if we don't we can forget even a all ireland quarter final place... also we are the only team that has no break in between match's 4 weeks on the trot... what would happen if Dublin shocked kk in Parnell park first game they would have a real pep in there step coming to wexford Park the week after
gannett83 (Wexford) - Posts: 322 - 04/04/2018 18:53:19
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Replying To gannett83: "No breen at all I was just thinking down the track fantasizing really if everyone was fit and available... yes Donohoe would probably be on bench instead of Bryne but the bench I picked is strong.. I also agree and I have been saying the same for months now that Dublin is the most important game can't state that enough we have to win it if we don't we can forget even a all ireland quarter final place... also we are the only team that has no break in between match's 4 weeks on the trot... what would happen if Dublin shocked kk in Parnell park first game they would have a real pep in there step coming to wexford Park the week after" For sure. And Parnell park will not hold any gr8 fear of kk for the dublin lads or great memories for the kilkenny lads theyve lost a good few minor and u21 games there over the last few years. I think the new format will throw up a couple of surprises I dont think Leinster is the foregone conclusion as regards the top 3 that people think. Are we as good as we looked against Galway or as poor as we looked against Kikenny? A KK team that looked very ordinary against Offaly 2 weeks previous. An Offaly team thats got back a raft of lads who havent played intercounty the last few years but who look very fit and hungry. And alot of them big men and skillful with a hurl. Offaly clubs have a great record in Leinster the last 10 years too its not as if they havent the hurlers. Will Galway rediscover their hunger? Theyve had poor results the last couple of games but could have had their training geared for May. They only came back from holidays at the start of the League. Dublin looked very good in the 1st 10 or 15 minutes against Tipp before they started looking leggy. If Gilroy has them on a training regime aimed at being able to sustain that intensity for 70 minutes come May it wont be a foregone conclusion that we, KK, or Galway will beat them. If Dublin beat Kilkenny its not beyond doubt that Kilkenny will finish in the top three at all
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 04/04/2018 20:49:00
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DudeLove (Dublin) - Posts: 4 - 04/04/2018 20:51:50
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Realistically we're not going to abandon the sweeper after investing 18 months into it, wouldn't be making wholesale changes after Sunday which I firmly believe is far from a true reflection of the team
Fanning
Reck Ryan Darren Byrne (no senior intercounty experience but someone I'd rate very highly)
Murphy
P Foley O'Hanlon O'Keeffe
K Foley Nolan
J O'Connor( he can switch with nolan or O'Keeffe to midfield or half back if he's not making an impact) R O'Connor Chin
Dunbar McDonald
If we're playing a team with a sweeper we can play 6 forwards, this for example happened against waterford in walsh park so with 6 backs against 5 forwards we'll have a free defender, I'd go with the below team in that case.
Fanning
Darren Byrne Ryan Murphy (free man)
P Foley O'Hanlon Reck
K Foley O'Keeffe
Nolan Rory O'Connor Chin
McDonald Dunbar Guiney( Dunbar to feed off the breaks of 2 potential ball winners)
Realistically the chances of everyone been fit at the same time is unlikely alot of luck will be required in this regard,agree that game 1 against Dublin could make or break us.
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Replying To DudeLove: "Any sign of Colm Kehoe that moved over from the footballers?" Picked up a very nasty hamstring injury playing for the footballers against carlow last May, still struggling with it I believe
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Replying To wexico15: "Picked up a very nasty hamstring injury playing for the footballers against carlow last May, still struggling with it I believe" Will he be back for May?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 04/04/2018 21:48:25
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First things first- We haven't ' peaked' yet as some are suggesting. We are 5/6 weeks behind where we were last year in terms of our physical preperation. This early season notion of any team that has a good league means they've peaked and any team thats's not going well are 'saving themselves for the summer is nonsense'. a lazy excuse for poor performances and results. This wexford team will get alot better as the ground hardens and the game speeds up. We had a strong league so despite sunday's no show we should be happy enough but i do have some concerns going forward which I mentioned weeks ago which certain posters took a dislike too but others appear to have noticed the same things.
Our first issue is the completle ineffectiveness ,poor positioning and poor disturbution of our sweeper. It is simply not good enough. I suggested trying others in this position in the dead rubber a few weeks ago to view our options, we didn't and now we've got a huge problem. Shaun is not performing in any aspect of this role,he showed last year he can be effective but he has had a very poor league.
2- Bar the first 20 minutes v clare and galway where he caught a few puck outs,the experiment of Jack O Connor wing forward simply hasn't work. The lad is lost wing forward and is just isin't his natural position. Simply stop him claiming clean possession off puck outs and he offers nothing here. A good strong hurler who we need to see wing back or midfield driving forward with ball.
3- Dee O keeffe's form- Bar the galway game has had a poor league by his standards. Looks a tired hurler and again its not his natural game to be wing back defending,far too loose and against the top teams he gets exploited. Needs to be considered further forward.
4- Positioning of lee chin- Not involved enough wing forward end of story.Why would we put one of the most powerful hurlers in the country standing 5 yards in from the sideline when were crying out for physicality in the middle third? He produced one of the best individual displays ever withnessed at midfield v kk last summer yet hasn't played there since,am i missing something? Center forward another option.
5- Forwards that cant win there own ball bar mc donald. Unfortunatly for me paul morris is a luxury hurler that is not offererring much. Wonderful finisher with ball in hand but needs others doing the dirty work for him which doesn't happen against the stronger teams. Will find himself as a squad player very soon.
6- said it before the first kk game that we needed to fully utilise our squad to give lads game time and to test our panel, we done neither,we lost ,learned nothing new and are now facing a summer where under utlised players will be thrust into championship action with virtually no game behind them. We missed the boat here and i fear it may come back to haunt us come the summer when we are going to have to make 5/6 changes week by week.
Regarding sunday we didn't show up.As mentioned our lads looked heavy legged from the very first minute. I've no doubt the combination of the galway game & heavy training during the week took it's toll. We made an improving but very determined and hardworking kk side look like superstars. I think it will be a blessing in disguise to be honest. Our lads know if we performed at our best we are better than them and this result should serrve as a gentle reminder of what happens when our standards drop. Yes kk are improving, are developing there style of play and have some excellent hurlers but the fact we were 5 yards behind them for every ball kind of helped. What annoyed me sunday was how we lost every single contested ball.
They were far more aggressive,far hungrier and wanted it more which was obvious. No great tactical masterplan to this as some are suggesting. Kk have learned how to bypass the sweeper and how to use the ball better sure we gave them a trial run in nowlan park a few weeks back,of course they'd learn eventually. We should of mixed up our game in that game,tried something different but we didn't. We played safe,got beaten and then got beaten again. Conciding 1-27 to me is embarrassing particularly with our system.
Going forward We have plenty of options. Donohoe struggled sunday but with half backs 50 yards away and all that empthy space in front of them,any corner back would struggle.He had a good enough league overall to be fair and is a starter. Reck is a super hurler no doubt but is better further forward. His instinct is to attack the ball which is admirable but for a corner back it can be dangerous. May well stay corner back come the summer but ashe showed for DCU, he can offer alot going forward. Conor forman done well in his appearances and Darren Byrne is back fit again, like others i rate him highly. More a full than corner back but is very strong defensively.
We've also got Gary Molly,Eoin Molly and Gareth foley for these positions. All options we haven't given game time to. For me our best half back line is Paudie Foley,O Hanlon and O Connor. ppl cristising o hanlon are being harsh, any hurler in ireland would struggle to contain TJ reid. Midfield- Kevin Foley +?. Aidan nolan was fantastic until his injury,rory has come in and been superb and lee chin needs to be more central so what do we do? Kevin + Nolan, rory floating at 10, Chin at 11? Full forward line, we need more pace and more power. Guiney ,Dunbar and mc for me. David Dunne on hard ground wing forward will terrorise defenders. Were going to keep sweeper though so Right now that leaves us with Dunne, O keeffe,Morris,Tomkins,Moore,Mc Govern, Deveraux,rochford on the bench.
cragask (Wexford) - Posts: 892 - 05/04/2018 00:29:53
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Replying To cragask: "First things first- We haven't ' peaked' yet as some are suggesting. We are 5/6 weeks behind where we were last year in terms of our physical preperation. This early season notion of any team that has a good league means they've peaked and any team thats's not going well are 'saving themselves for the summer is nonsense'. a lazy excuse for poor performances and results. This wexford team will get alot better as the ground hardens and the game speeds up. We had a strong league so despite sunday's no show we should be happy enough but i do have some concerns going forward which I mentioned weeks ago which certain posters took a dislike too but others appear to have noticed the same things.
Our first issue is the completle ineffectiveness ,poor positioning and poor disturbution of our sweeper. It is simply not good enough. I suggested trying others in this position in the dead rubber a few weeks ago to view our options, we didn't and now we've got a huge problem. Shaun is not performing in any aspect of this role,he showed last year he can be effective but he has had a very poor league.
2- Bar the first 20 minutes v clare and galway where he caught a few puck outs,the experiment of Jack O Connor wing forward simply hasn't work. The lad is lost wing forward and is just isin't his natural position. Simply stop him claiming clean possession off puck outs and he offers nothing here. A good strong hurler who we need to see wing back or midfield driving forward with ball.
3- Dee O keeffe's form- Bar the galway game has had a poor league by his standards. Looks a tired hurler and again its not his natural game to be wing back defending,far too loose and against the top teams he gets exploited. Needs to be considered further forward.
4- Positioning of lee chin- Not involved enough wing forward end of story.Why would we put one of the most powerful hurlers in the country standing 5 yards in from the sideline when were crying out for physicality in the middle third? He produced one of the best individual displays ever withnessed at midfield v kk last summer yet hasn't played there since,am i missing something? Center forward another option.
5- Forwards that cant win there own ball bar mc donald. Unfortunatly for me paul morris is a luxury hurler that is not offererring much. Wonderful finisher with ball in hand but needs others doing the dirty work for him which doesn't happen against the stronger teams. Will find himself as a squad player very soon.
6- said it before the first kk game that we needed to fully utilise our squad to give lads game time and to test our panel, we done neither,we lost ,learned nothing new and are now facing a summer where under utlised players will be thrust into championship action with virtually no game behind them. We missed the boat here and i fear it may come back to haunt us come the summer when we are going to have to make 5/6 changes week by week.
Regarding sunday we didn't show up.As mentioned our lads looked heavy legged from the very first minute. I've no doubt the combination of the galway game & heavy training during the week took it's toll. We made an improving but very determined and hardworking kk side look like superstars. I think it will be a blessing in disguise to be honest. Our lads know if we performed at our best we are better than them and this result should serrve as a gentle reminder of what happens when our standards drop. Yes kk are improving, are developing there style of play and have some excellent hurlers but the fact we were 5 yards behind them for every ball kind of helped. What annoyed me sunday was how we lost every single contested ball.
They were far more aggressive,far hungrier and wanted it more which was obvious. No great tactical masterplan to this as some are suggesting. Kk have learned how to bypass the sweeper and how to use the ball better sure we gave them a trial run in nowlan park a few weeks back,of course they'd learn eventually. We should of mixed up our game in that game,tried something different but we didn't. We played safe,got beaten and then got beaten again. Conciding 1-27 to me is embarrassing particularly with our system.
Going forward We have plenty of options. Donohoe struggled sunday but with half backs 50 yards away and all that empthy space in front of them,any corner back would struggle.He had a good enough league overall to be fair and is a starter. Reck is a super hurler no doubt but is better further forward. His instinct is to attack the ball which is admirable but for a corner back it can be dangerous. May well stay corner back come the summer but ashe showed for DCU, he can offer alot going forward. Conor forman done well in his appearances and Darren Byrne is back fit again, like others i rate him highly. More a full than corner back but is very strong defensively.
We've also got Gary Molly,Eoin Molly and Gareth foley for these positions. All options we haven't given game time to. For me our best half back line is Paudie Foley,O Hanlon and O Connor. ppl cristising o hanlon are being harsh, any hurler in ireland would struggle to contain TJ reid. Midfield- Kevin Foley +?. Aidan nolan was fantastic until his injury,rory has come in and been superb and lee chin needs to be more central so what do we do? Kevin + Nolan, rory floating at 10, Chin at 11? Full forward line, we need more pace and more power. Guiney ,Dunbar and mc for me. David Dunne on hard ground wing forward will terrorise defenders. Were going to keep sweeper though so Right now that leaves us with Dunne, O keeffe,Morris,Tomkins,Moore,Mc Govern, Deveraux,rochford on the bench." Just looking at the bench in your preferred team shows how much our squad has improved . I agree we might have looked at a few more fringe players in both kilkenny games but overall I dont think we or any other team are going to start any more than 25 or 26 different players in the 4 round robin matches. Between games probably all 10 counties will concentrate on recovery and stick and ball work to get the hurling sharper. We wont be slower to the ball like last weekend. I even think we now have the squad to cope with a few injuries which we havnt had in years. 1 of our main problems against kk in the 2nd half was we didnt push up on their short puckouts go 15 on 15 which we did do, against Clare especially, in the league proper. This gave kk possession on every 1 of their puckouts. Though I agree the big difference between the 2 teams was tiredness and hunger. I think Dee o keefe and Sean Murphy werent at their best during the league. But I think management probably tell Sean hes to stay between the goalie and fullback line if the team we are playing carry a big goal threat or between the 2 back lines especially against teams like clare Waterford and galway. I think his touch as in picking up the ball hasnt been as good as last year though. I agree about Jacko also but has he the speed to play wing back in Davys system? Agree also Chin is wasted wing forward. Maybe a half forward line of chin rory o and mcgovern or guiney all interchanging like free roles might work well for us down the line. Or swap Nolan for Chin in midfield. Think Kevin Foley has to start midfield although he looked good at sweeper too. Mac and 1 of Morris Dunne and Dunbar inside depending who we are playing and how fast their corner backs are. I agree also Byrne looked very good at fullback. Havnt seen him play cornerback but I think Reck and Donohue should be the 1st choice starters or possibly Eoin Moore if fully fit and we're playing some1 like Galway with a big fullforward line. If the wingbacks arent tired the cornerbacks will have more protection. Also against teams running at us with the ball the sweeper should be out in front of the full back line to pick up a runner. And obviously the half backs and midfielders should track back also. Cody had his half forwards tracking our half backs even when they were as far forward as their fullback line. Overall I still think we ve our best team/squad since the 90s and while I dont think we neccessarily will win Leinster or get to an All Ireland semi I think we ve the best chance of both in 10 years. Up Wexford!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 05/04/2018 11:15:02
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Replying To cragask: "First things first- We haven't ' peaked' yet as some are suggesting. We are 5/6 weeks behind where we were last year in terms of our physical preperation. This early season notion of any team that has a good league means they've peaked and any team thats's not going well are 'saving themselves for the summer is nonsense'. a lazy excuse for poor performances and results. This wexford team will get alot better as the ground hardens and the game speeds up. We had a strong league so despite sunday's no show we should be happy enough but i do have some concerns going forward which I mentioned weeks ago which certain posters took a dislike too but others appear to have noticed the same things.
Our first issue is the completle ineffectiveness ,poor positioning and poor disturbution of our sweeper. It is simply not good enough. I suggested trying others in this position in the dead rubber a few weeks ago to view our options, we didn't and now we've got a huge problem. Shaun is not performing in any aspect of this role,he showed last year he can be effective but he has had a very poor league.
2- Bar the first 20 minutes v clare and galway where he caught a few puck outs,the experiment of Jack O Connor wing forward simply hasn't work. The lad is lost wing forward and is just isin't his natural position. Simply stop him claiming clean possession off puck outs and he offers nothing here. A good strong hurler who we need to see wing back or midfield driving forward with ball.
3- Dee O keeffe's form- Bar the galway game has had a poor league by his standards. Looks a tired hurler and again its not his natural game to be wing back defending,far too loose and against the top teams he gets exploited. Needs to be considered further forward.
4- Positioning of lee chin- Not involved enough wing forward end of story.Why would we put one of the most powerful hurlers in the country standing 5 yards in from the sideline when were crying out for physicality in the middle third? He produced one of the best individual displays ever withnessed at midfield v kk last summer yet hasn't played there since,am i missing something? Center forward another option.
5- Forwards that cant win there own ball bar mc donald. Unfortunatly for me paul morris is a luxury hurler that is not offererring much. Wonderful finisher with ball in hand but needs others doing the dirty work for him which doesn't happen against the stronger teams. Will find himself as a squad player very soon.
6- said it before the first kk game that we needed to fully utilise our squad to give lads game time and to test our panel, we done neither,we lost ,learned nothing new and are now facing a summer where under utlised players will be thrust into championship action with virtually no game behind them. We missed the boat here and i fear it may come back to haunt us come the summer when we are going to have to make 5/6 changes week by week.
Regarding sunday we didn't show up.As mentioned our lads looked heavy legged from the very first minute. I've no doubt the combination of the galway game & heavy training during the week took it's toll. We made an improving but very determined and hardworking kk side look like superstars. I think it will be a blessing in disguise to be honest. Our lads know if we performed at our best we are better than them and this result should serrve as a gentle reminder of what happens when our standards drop. Yes kk are improving, are developing there style of play and have some excellent hurlers but the fact we were 5 yards behind them for every ball kind of helped. What annoyed me sunday was how we lost every single contested ball.
They were far more aggressive,far hungrier and wanted it more which was obvious. No great tactical masterplan to this as some are suggesting. Kk have learned how to bypass the sweeper and how to use the ball better sure we gave them a trial run in nowlan park a few weeks back,of course they'd learn eventually. We should of mixed up our game in that game,tried something different but we didn't. We played safe,got beaten and then got beaten again. Conciding 1-27 to me is embarrassing particularly with our system.
Going forward We have plenty of options. Donohoe struggled sunday but with half backs 50 yards away and all that empthy space in front of them,any corner back would struggle.He had a good enough league overall to be fair and is a starter. Reck is a super hurler no doubt but is better further forward. His instinct is to attack the ball which is admirable but for a corner back it can be dangerous. May well stay corner back come the summer but ashe showed for DCU, he can offer alot going forward. Conor forman done well in his appearances and Darren Byrne is back fit again, like others i rate him highly. More a full than corner back but is very strong defensively.
We've also got Gary Molly,Eoin Molly and Gareth foley for these positions. All options we haven't given game time to. For me our best half back line is Paudie Foley,O Hanlon and O Connor. ppl cristising o hanlon are being harsh, any hurler in ireland would struggle to contain TJ reid. Midfield- Kevin Foley +?. Aidan nolan was fantastic until his injury,rory has come in and been superb and lee chin needs to be more central so what do we do? Kevin + Nolan, rory floating at 10, Chin at 11? Full forward line, we need more pace and more power. Guiney ,Dunbar and mc for me. David Dunne on hard ground wing forward will terrorise defenders. Were going to keep sweeper though so Right now that leaves us with Dunne, O keeffe,Morris,Tomkins,Moore,Mc Govern, Deveraux,rochford on the bench." Good post lad
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1150 - 05/04/2018 13:44:04
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Our first issue is the completle ineffectiveness ,poor positioning and poor disturbution of our sweeper. It is simply not good enough. I suggested trying others in this position in the dead rubber a few weeks ago to view our options, we didn't and now we've got a huge problem. Shaun is not performing in any aspect of this role,he showed last year he can be effective but he has had a very poor league.
2- Bar the first 20 minutes v clare and galway where he caught a few puck outs,the experiment of Jack O Connor wing forward simply hasn't work. The lad is lost wing forward and is just isin't his natural position. Simply stop him claiming clean possession off puck outs and he offers nothing here. A good strong hurler who we need to see wing back or midfield driving forward with ball.
3- Dee O keeffe's form- Bar the galway game has had a poor league by his standards. Looks a tired hurler and again its not his natural game to be wing back defending,far too loose and against the top teams he gets exploited. Needs to be considered further forward.
4- Positioning of lee chin- Not involved enough wing forward end of story.Why would we put one of the most powerful hurlers in the country standing 5 yards in from the sideline when were crying out for physicality in the middle third? He produced one of the best individual displays ever withnessed at midfield v kk last summer yet hasn't played there since,am i missing something? Center forward another option.
5- Forwards that cant win there own ball bar mc donald. Unfortunatly for me paul morris is a luxury hurler that is not offererring much. Wonderful finisher with ball in hand but needs others doing the dirty work for him which doesn't happen against the stronger teams. Will find himself as a squad player very soon.
6- said it before the first kk game that we needed to fully utilise our squad to give lads game time and to test our panel, we done neither,we lost ,learned nothing new and are now facing a summer where under utlised players will be thrust into championship action with virtually no game behind them. We missed the boat here and i fear it may come back to haunt us come the summer when we are going to have to make 5/6 changes week by week.
Regarding sunday we didn't show up.As mentioned our lads looked heavy legged from the very first minute. I've no doubt the combination of the galway game & heavy training during the week took it's toll. We made an improving but very determined and hardworking kk side look like superstars. I think it will be a blessing in disguise to be honest. Our lads know if we performed at our best we are better than them and this result should serrve as a gentle reminder of what happens when our standards drop. Yes kk are improving, are developing there style of play and have some excellent hurlers but the fact we were 5 yards behind them for every ball kind of helped. What annoyed me sunday was how we lost every single contested ball.
They were far more aggressive,far hungrier and wanted it more which was obvious. No great tactical masterplan to this as some are suggesting. Kk have learned how to bypass the sweeper and how to use the ball better sure we gave them a trial run in nowlan park a few weeks back,of course they'd learn eventually. We should of mixed up our game in that game,tried something different but we didn't. We played safe,got beaten and then got beaten again. Conciding 1-27 to me is embarrassing particularly with our system.
Going forward We have plenty of options. Donohoe struggled sunday but with half backs 50 yards away and all that empthy space in front of them,any corner back would struggle.He had a good enough league overall to be fair and is a starter. Reck is a super hurler no doubt but is better further forward. His instinct is to attack the ball which is admirable but for a corner back it can be dangerous. May well stay corner back come the summer but ashe showed for DCU, he can offer alot going forward. Conor forman done well in his appearances and Darren Byrne is back fit again, like others i rate him highly. More a full than corner back but is very strong defensively.
We've also got Gary Molly,Eoin Molly and Gareth foley for these positions. All options we haven't given game time to. For me our best half back line is Paudie Foley,O Hanlon and O Connor. ppl cristising o hanlon are being harsh, any hurler in ireland would struggle to contain TJ reid. Midfield- Kevin Foley +?. Aidan nolan was fantastic until his injury,rory has come in and been superb and lee chin needs to be more central so what do we do? Kevin + Nolan, rory floating at 10, Chin at 11? Full forward line, we need more pace and more power. Guiney ,Dunbar and mc for me. David Dunne on hard ground wing forward will terrorise defenders. Were going to keep sweeper though so Right now that leaves us with Dunne, O keeffe,Morris,Tomkins,Moore,Mc Govern, Deveraux,rochford on the bench." That my friend is our strongest possible 15
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3837 - 05/04/2018 14:56:52
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