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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches

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Replying To Canuck:  "Yes and I doubt if some or any of the coaches ordered these sessions. Dessie Farrell is taking one for the team. I doubt that this photographer was ever up at 7:00 a.m. in his life before. There must be many other meaningful photos he could go and do. Probably a set up to get him there. Yes there are regulations and all in all there should be compliance but how about a bit of common sense when you see some guys kicking around a ball in a big field. Mind your own business or join them. How about applying the same rules to GAA players as others. Stop the b.s. of telling us it is fine for other team sports to train and play games but these seven players are spreading covid. Treating Irish people like they are stupid.
With regards Dublin getting an advantage over other teams by these guys doing a kick about. In reality if they did not get together until match day they would beat most of the other teams. Stop the whinning and go out and beat them on the field of play."
Dont be ridiculous so you are saying a group of county players training together with a coach present is done without the say so of head coaches.
Dessie Farrell is taking a punishment because as head coach/manager he should of known everything that was going on

Common sense is if seeing several big names on a pitch training when they shouldnt is to report them

Applying same rules to who exactly?
The only other team sports who are training now are professional, getting covid tested regularly. very different to amateur players going into dozens of workpaces....

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3495 - 10/04/2021 18:55:26    2336767

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Replying To Canuck:  "Yes and I doubt if some or any of the coaches ordered these sessions. Dessie Farrell is taking one for the team. I doubt that this photographer was ever up at 7:00 a.m. in his life before. There must be many other meaningful photos he could go and do. Probably a set up to get him there. Yes there are regulations and all in all there should be compliance but how about a bit of common sense when you see some guys kicking around a ball in a big field. Mind your own business or join them. How about applying the same rules to GAA players as others. Stop the b.s. of telling us it is fine for other team sports to train and play games but these seven players are spreading covid. Treating Irish people like they are stupid.
With regards Dublin getting an advantage over other teams by these guys doing a kick about. In reality if they did not get together until match day they would beat most of the other teams. Stop the whinning and go out and beat them on the field of play."
Sorry Canuck but your first line is in need of exploration...that you doubt that some of these sessions were ordered by these coaches... for me, club pitches were open very early in the morning. That means that someone made a phone call looking for the pitch and someone was asked to open the pitch.... that is how I view the sessions.
For me these sessions have been planned and I have no doubt about that.
As I see it, it was more than the manager!

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1820 - 10/04/2021 19:02:19    2336770

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Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "Ah yeah the US handled the Covid situation well especially under Trump,sure what does it matter having so many people die once one can enjoy a pint...such a selfless attitude!!"
Yeah... Quarantine hotels and needless panic! Whilst I agree Trump is a moron and idiot there is no need for the Draconian measures Irish employ! 34 deaths in Ireland since December with average age of 83? Come on! The entire adult population of USA will be vaccinated by May..... quarantining visitors from Canada, USA etc many of who are fully vaccinated is both foolish and selfish! A lot of these visitors are Irish returning for bereavements etc! But ok! Continue with mindless paranoia!

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 10/04/2021 20:30:47    2336779

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Replying To Rockies:  "Yeah... Quarantine hotels and needless panic! Whilst I agree Trump is a moron and idiot there is no need for the Draconian measures Irish employ! 34 deaths in Ireland since December with average age of 83? Come on! The entire adult population of USA will be vaccinated by May..... quarantining visitors from Canada, USA etc many of who are fully vaccinated is both foolish and selfish! A lot of these visitors are Irish returning for bereavements etc! But ok! Continue with mindless paranoia!"
34 deaths in Ireland since December with average age of 83? Come on!

I simply can't find the words, only unbelievable insensitivity towards our senior people.
- - - a deep rawness.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 10/04/2021 21:22:15    2336784

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Dont be ridiculous so you are saying a group of county players training together with a coach present is done without the say so of head coaches.
Dessie Farrell is taking a punishment because as head coach/manager he should of known everything that was going on

Common sense is if seeing several big names on a pitch training when they shouldnt is to report them

Applying same rules to who exactly?
The only other team sports who are training now are professional, getting covid tested regularly. very different to amateur players going into dozens of workpaces...."
Is Professionalism in sport a vaccine against Covid?
Are these Professional sports people living in splendid isolation with no human to human contact whatsoever? Have pro's living and working in Ireland in sports gotten Covid?

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 816 - 10/04/2021 22:01:07    2336790

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Replying To updwell:  "Is Professionalism in sport a vaccine against Covid?
Are these Professional sports people living in splendid isolation with no human to human contact whatsoever? Have pro's living and working in Ireland in sports gotten Covid?"
Professional players who are getting covid tested regularly and isolating if necessary. Very different to amateur players and organisations who wont/may not be able to afford all that covid testing required to allow games take place

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3495 - 10/04/2021 22:17:03    2336795

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Replying To supersub15:  "34 deaths in Ireland since December with average age of 83? Come on!

I simply can't find the words, only unbelievable insensitivity towards our senior people.
- - - a deep rawness."
Nobody is getting out of here alive!! Is that raw enough for you? Go get the virus cases down to zero....live in isolation ... and I guarantee that in the next 3 months another 34 people will die with average age of 83. Maybe you can up up with a vaccine promising eternal life??

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 10/04/2021 22:24:37    2336797

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Dont be ridiculous so you are saying a group of county players training together with a coach present is done without the say so of head coaches.
Dessie Farrell is taking a punishment because as head coach/manager he should of known everything that was going on

Common sense is if seeing several big names on a pitch training when they shouldnt is to report them

Applying same rules to who exactly?
The only other team sports who are training now are professional, getting covid tested regularly. very different to amateur players going into dozens of workpaces...."
Actually it becomes tiring with you and this argument about semi professional soccer player and your acceptance of them in the work place. Just because they do not go in to as many places as the GAA player it is okay ? I guess the odd old party is okay also because everyone is not doing and there are enough of good citizen following the rules. Do you know for certain they are been tested and who is paying for it ? In Waterford the players were not getting paid because there was no money. Do you really believe they have money to pay for testing. What really is ridiculous is people like you inferring that a few people kicking a ball around are spreading covid. I have members of my family fitting on the front lines against this virus 24/7 and you would want to hear what they have to say about some of the nonsense we are getting fed.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 10/04/2021 22:42:41    2336798

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Replying To carlowman:  "Sorry Canuck but your first line is in need of exploration...that you doubt that some of these sessions were ordered by these coaches... for me, club pitches were open very early in the morning. That means that someone made a phone call looking for the pitch and someone was asked to open the pitch.... that is how I view the sessions.
For me these sessions have been planned and I have no doubt about that.
As I see it, it was more than the manager!"
Carlowman you may be correct about the coaches but if some people kicking a ball around in a field is the root cause or even minor contributor to the covid virus then we are for certain doomed. Again at most it was poor judgement from a public image point of view. If there were 7 Joe Soaps kicking a ball around in t a field would there be a camera man rushing out to get a photo. We need to keep in prospective what is a danger while not selectively pointing the finger at one group of seven and no interest in another. Were these seven players causing anymore risk than the total number of semi pro soccer players in the country going to the work place. This is out and out hypocrisy. I am not picking on semi pro- soccer players but it just illustrates this hypocrisy.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 10/04/2021 22:55:52    2336800

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Dont be ridiculous so you are saying a group of county players training together with a coach present is done without the say so of head coaches.
Dessie Farrell is taking a punishment because as head coach/manager he should of known everything that was going on

Common sense is if seeing several big names on a pitch training when they shouldnt is to report them

Applying same rules to who exactly?
The only other team sports who are training now are professional, getting covid tested regularly. very different to amateur players going into dozens of workpaces...."
Ahem! I think you should have a read of the back page of the sports section of todays Independent.

UtahBlaine (Galway) - Posts: 145 - 10/04/2021 23:01:41    2336801

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Replying To Rockies:  "Yeah... Quarantine hotels and needless panic! Whilst I agree Trump is a moron and idiot there is no need for the Draconian measures Irish employ! 34 deaths in Ireland since December with average age of 83? Come on! The entire adult population of USA will be vaccinated by May..... quarantining visitors from Canada, USA etc many of who are fully vaccinated is both foolish and selfish! A lot of these visitors are Irish returning for bereavements etc! But ok! Continue with mindless paranoia!"
There were more Covid deaths in January of this year alone than in ALL of 2020. Over 1,000 people died. 1,000 people, not numbers. People like you and I.

34 my arse!!

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 10/04/2021 23:17:30    2336804

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Replying To Canuck:  "Carlowman you may be correct about the coaches but if some people kicking a ball around in a field is the root cause or even minor contributor to the covid virus then we are for certain doomed. Again at most it was poor judgement from a public image point of view. If there were 7 Joe Soaps kicking a ball around in t a field would there be a camera man rushing out to get a photo. We need to keep in prospective what is a danger while not selectively pointing the finger at one group of seven and no interest in another. Were these seven players causing anymore risk than the total number of semi pro soccer players in the country going to the work place. This is out and out hypocrisy. I am not picking on semi pro- soccer players but it just illustrates this hypocrisy."
I agree 100% Canuck we are living in a country where the attitude is if I can't have what I want then the crowd over there shouldn't have what they want. It's bringing out a bitterness and nastiness in people which isn't helping us to get through this or isn't helpful in controlling Covid numbers. I'm not looking for rugby or soccer to be stopped as this is obviously an outlet fur players and fans to get away from Covid for a few hours each week but to then say at the same time we can't play or train at another sport is hypocritical and anti that sport. To say the pros are in bubbles and isolated from the rest of us is impractical for a start and just plainly lies. How many sports people in this country in their 20s are earning enough to live in a house or apartment on their own, can't have a partner meet them, get their food delivered and how do they get fuel for their car without interaction with someone. I know of a LOI player who lives at home with his parents who both work in factories and he has a brother still at school- how is this different from most GAA players. Take Johnny Sexton the most high profile professional player in the country, he has a wife and kids at home does he isolate from them during the rugby season or does he meet the kids who are coming home from school or his wife who does the shopping? If he does meet them then he is operating outside the team bubble.
It's time now to let the kids back training in all sports and let GAA Intercounty back and stop this anti-GAA agenda masking as necessary restrictions

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 816 - 11/04/2021 08:25:42    2336821

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Replying To lilylanger:  "There were more Covid deaths in January of this year alone than in ALL of 2020. Over 1,000 people died. 1,000 people, not numbers. People like you and I.

34 my arse!!"
I remember there was a spike of Covid-19 cases in Ireland after Christmas! Maybe Irish coming back to New York should have been kept in quarantine hotels for a few weeks to stop spread of U.K. variant. That looks like the way of the future! Anyway, I am off to Florida again... fully vaccinated and ready to party!

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 11/04/2021 08:43:42    2336823

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The safety of the so called elite sports and their bubble as the answer to their pass to practice and play is a joke. 27 seven players and officials in the Vancouver Canucks organization has the virus and they also spread it in the community. Now a Toronto Maple Leaf player has it and there is a scramble to see where else it went.
There was and is strategy by all western democracies. Scare and bully the people that comply to do more. Why because the constitutions will never hold up the prosecutions or fining of the ones who ignore regulations. Lawyers are lining up to take these cases in block to the supreme courts and over turn ones already enacted while making a lot of money.
The success of combating the virus in China is because you get shot or locked up if you don't obey. We all have seen the drone descending on the woman ordering her to get off the street. I am sure none of us wants to live under such style regimes.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 11/04/2021 14:33:45    2336855

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Replying To updwell:  "I agree 100% Canuck we are living in a country where the attitude is if I can't have what I want then the crowd over there shouldn't have what they want. It's bringing out a bitterness and nastiness in people which isn't helping us to get through this or isn't helpful in controlling Covid numbers. I'm not looking for rugby or soccer to be stopped as this is obviously an outlet fur players and fans to get away from Covid for a few hours each week but to then say at the same time we can't play or train at another sport is hypocritical and anti that sport. To say the pros are in bubbles and isolated from the rest of us is impractical for a start and just plainly lies. How many sports people in this country in their 20s are earning enough to live in a house or apartment on their own, can't have a partner meet them, get their food delivered and how do they get fuel for their car without interaction with someone. I know of a LOI player who lives at home with his parents who both work in factories and he has a brother still at school- how is this different from most GAA players. Take Johnny Sexton the most high profile professional player in the country, he has a wife and kids at home does he isolate from them during the rugby season or does he meet the kids who are coming home from school or his wife who does the shopping? If he does meet them then he is operating outside the team bubble.
It's time now to let the kids back training in all sports and let GAA Intercounty back and stop this anti-GAA agenda masking as necessary restrictions"
100%. See now the Irish woman's rugby team to play France might have to do so in Belfast. Something about France not on green list. Always a way round restrictions when pros involved. A lock of GAA lads having a kick about are nailed. Sure it's only GAA.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 12/04/2021 11:41:04    2336946

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Replying To Rockies:  "I remember there was a spike of Covid-19 cases in Ireland after Christmas! Maybe Irish coming back to New York should have been kept in quarantine hotels for a few weeks to stop spread of U.K. variant. That looks like the way of the future! Anyway, I am off to Florida again... fully vaccinated and ready to party!"
Is there anything as boring as having people who moved overseas come back and tell you how their life is so much better?

Real lowbrow stuff. Generally speaking no loss to us and not much addition to anyone else.

Greenfield (Meath) - Posts: 522 - 12/04/2021 12:27:06    2336950

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Replying To Rockies:  "I remember there was a spike of Covid-19 cases in Ireland after Christmas! Maybe Irish coming back to New York should have been kept in quarantine hotels for a few weeks to stop spread of U.K. variant. That looks like the way of the future! Anyway, I am off to Florida again... fully vaccinated and ready to party!"
But you aren't based in New York anyway so why even bother mention it.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 12/04/2021 12:44:50    2336955

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Replying To Rockies:  "I remember there was a spike of Covid-19 cases in Ireland after Christmas! Maybe Irish coming back to New York should have been kept in quarantine hotels for a few weeks to stop spread of U.K. variant. That looks like the way of the future! Anyway, I am off to Florida again... fully vaccinated and ready to party!"
We'd have to seal the border to stop the UK variant continuing to be spread, so therefore there would be none of the six counties in the all Ireland. The UK variant did not come from the USA, the hint is in the name.

leitrimguy1985 (Leitrim) - Posts: 57 - 12/04/2021 12:57:10    2336958

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Replying To Greenfield:  "Is there anything as boring as having people who moved overseas come back and tell you how their life is so much better?

Real lowbrow stuff. Generally speaking no loss to us and not much addition to anyone else."
If in England, they arrive home complete with accent.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 421 - 12/04/2021 13:21:00    2336969

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Replying To MicktheMiller:  "If in England, they arrive home complete with accent."
saying things like isn't it, for me, up top and do one

the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 12/04/2021 13:28:35    2336970

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