Seems to me like they are the worst club in Ireland and wont last long in Intermediate..

Poor attitude to. etc

maybe im wrong, any views??

harrypotter (Meath) - Posts: 27 - 16/11/2008 17:36:32    142392

You are dead right wood on slippery slope..... but they had great times too some classy forwards

thegreatwiseone (Meath) - Posts: 14 - 16/11/2008 20:45:39    142485

I think your way off harry, its tough for a club of the size of the wood to stay competitive at senior level, the group of players that the wood produced in the earlier 90s were an extremely tallented group especially for such a small village, its very rare that a small club produces a group of this quality, with the players the wood have now i think their far better off bein out of the senior ranks, it was doin the young players coming through (who clearly are not near the standard of previous teams) no good goin out and gettin beaten by 10points every senior game, i'd predict that these players will gain valuable experience and preform well in the intermediate ranks,

NutCracker (Meath) - Posts: 30 - 17/11/2008 09:15:35    142647

I don't know about that.

they have great facilities, I played a match there this year and there were kids everywhere ( always a good sign ). It's just inevitable that after a great period for the club you are going to get a few years where things are not so great.

matrixroyal (Meath) - Posts: 96 - 17/11/2008 09:45:31    142663

You are being very unfair to a very small club. Personally I have great time for the small clubs. When they make it into the senior ranks great, and if they win it even better. The Wood did it in the 90's as did Dunderry another small club. I should also mention Ballinlough, Carnaross and particularly Cortown, which is less than half a parish. The Tones came up and won it more recently and are still there. It's not easy to maintain this level of success over a long time for a small club. Even NOM went down for two years. Only Skryne stand out as a club who have never gone down since they became senior (a remarkable achievement and a credit to them).

I know that I have had some skirmishes with NorthMeathman about the level of success that the Wood achieved. To be honest I was just being mischievous. In fact the Wood are a team I admire greatly. They are easily the best club in North Meath and this includes Kells, Oldcastle, Syddan and Castletown, all areas with much greater populations. Even going back to the sixties and seventies you could always count on the Wood to give a good account of themselves. They were generally a very good Intermediat club then. I can't remember them as Junior, perhaps NMM can say when they were last in the Junior ranks. I think that they will do all right at intermediate. It might be a few years before we see them back at senior but as Nutcracker suggests the young lads will take heart from the fact they are not being hammered in every game and will start to put it in again. This will be good for both the club and the community the represent.

The real Árd Rí (Meath) - Posts: 990 - 17/11/2008 13:50:46    142959

Good post Ard Ri but does north Meath not include Wolfe Tones and Rathkenny too?

men_of_49 (Meath) - Posts: 2024 - 17/11/2008 16:05:37    143148

Men-of -49

I knew someone would mention Wolfe Tones. To be honest I forgot about Rathkenny who might or might not be considered as North Meath. It you were to say that there is only North and South Meath then both would be North. But where would that leave O'Mahonies. Personally I think that there is a least three regions, Central Meath being the third. This would include NOM, Simonstown, Tones, Walterstown, Ultans maybe Dunderry. Anyway you know the point I was trying to make in relation to the Wood.

The real Árd Rí (Meath) - Posts: 990 - 17/11/2008 17:11:12    143256

God, these north vs. South meath threads really do get pathetic!

sheepshooter (Meath) - Posts: 626 - 17/11/2008 18:37:24    143339

Ard-Ri, what about East Meath teams, St Pats, Duleek-Bellewstown and you can probably include Seneschalstown in this catagory. You mention skryne as a team who have stayed in the senior ranks since they first participated at senior level but I believe Walterstown almost 45 years and Trim almost 60 years have also maintained their senior status.

Diego (Meath) - Posts: 1210 - 17/11/2008 19:30:57    143383

Yes the attitude is poor, but I expect they will do well at inter level.
They need a strong manager to sort out the poor attitude, talent is not an issue.. discipline will be a problem with the young lads involved which is strange considering most of them wouldnt beat there way out of a paper bag.

They surely have one of the best pitches in Meath and now an astro turf pitch and running track, the running track was some waste of lotto money. However it had to be spent

Ard Ri, the wood started life as a inter team, never played junior, i think it was 65 they got to the senior semi and the 90's were fantastic and will be a long time before we see that again.
Considering what Ballinlough did this year and Cortown getting to the final, with the right attitude and manager will do well.
Fancy the job Ard Ri, pays well!!

Northmeathman (Meath) - Posts: 284 - 17/11/2008 22:38:46    143561

Ah now NorthMeathman, you don't expect me to go into your patch. While I know that I could do a good job with them, surely you would do as good a job yourself. Besides you probably need the money more than me. Mind you, you would need to have a different attitude with the lads to the one you often display here. Seriously NMM is there any talent coming up in that neck of the woods (no pun intended). It is some time now since we saw your club doing anything at any level. Surely there are some promising minors or under 21s around.

Diego, I had not intended to start a thread on regions. If I had named an East Meath region then surely someone would want a West Meath one, or should I say a Meath West one to avoid confusion.

The real Árd Rí (Meath) - Posts: 990 - 18/11/2008 10:02:05    143723

what good managers are left out there that could handle the wood...... they are not far off the mark for intermediate as good as what is in that grade?????

thegreatwiseone (Meath) - Posts: 14 - 18/11/2008 19:07:56    144309

I cant think of too many good managers available in the county at the minute, by this time most clubs will have next years manager already lined up, maybe NMM will be able to let us know who the wood have lined up, i think there is too much emhasis on managers, its up to the players the lift themselfs after a bad year and put in a serious effort other wise the downward trend will continue

NutCracker (Meath) - Posts: 30 - 19/11/2008 09:15:15    144612

I was only messin

harrypotter (Meath) - Posts: 27 - 19/11/2008 13:11:14    144896

i think there is no question kilmainhamwood is shruggling as a club but there is talent there.. it is unfair when people put kilmainhamwood down esp when most of them are from outside the club and dont no what there talking about.. next year kilmainhamwood has the potentional to win division 3 and at least advance to the semi final of the inter champ! a well astabished manager has to take them over and earn the players respect. last year the manager was the wrong man for the job even though this was clear from the start the board did noting about it!! it is important they put some efford into it this year!! another thing kilaminhamwood lack is motivation!! again a good manager will help this but i think the board have to bring the team away on trips r days out or even have sandwitches or tea after training this would make a big difference and would be very do able

northlad (Monaghan) - Posts: 67 - 19/11/2008 13:50:28    144948

As a person with fisrt hand experience of playing for the wood , i would like to point out that this so called ''bad attitude'' is handed down from the top! with poorly organised training, bad management and a lack of outings for the players to make them feel like they want to play for the wood and not like they have to, it cant be expected for the wood to mix with the likes of nom and skryne etc.
All that is needed to sort the woods problems is a strong manager who isnt afraid of names to do interesting training sessions and to motivate the players, last year it was like players were being begged to train or play games and i think all the blame cannot be put on the players, the management must take responsibility for the performances, they were poorly organised and in many players views they didnt have a clue what they were doing. I think more emphasis should be put on the development of the young players instead of relying on the more mature players who have been playing for 15 years or more.

nmplayr (Meath) - Posts: 5 - 19/11/2008 13:50:45    144949

i see a few Kilmainhamwood experts are here cabbage ginger n who else. I agree ye need a manager .

paudi (Meath) - Posts: 681 - 19/11/2008 15:11:36    145046

Harry potter is dead right.Potter to replace cowen and steer this country back on to the world stage. Its clubs like the wood that hold this county and country back from prosperity. Their defeatest attitude is contagious and i personally blame them for the recession.

jimmy.hatter (Meath) - Posts: 2 - 19/11/2008 15:29:56    145068

i think jimmy is completely wrong!! like dont be stupit how can kilmainhamwood be blamed for holding the county back!! thats the stupitest thing ive ever heard. it is clear that kilmainhamwood have worked very hard to stay senior as long as they did esp with such a small number of players to chose from. they compeated against the top teams in the county for many years and it is a credit to them and the club. now they have serious changes to make and improvements clearly but i could name alot of other clubs in senior and inter that are in the same boat..

northlad (Monaghan) - Posts: 67 - 19/11/2008 18:44:49    145321

the wood and nobber first round next year now that would be fun........ wood will do ok in this grade

thegreatwiseone (Meath) - Posts: 14 - 19/11/2008 21:19:57    145440