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Donegal V Armagh (Qualifiers) - 9 Like(s)
Replying To P.Mckenna: "Great game.
Armagh supporters letting their county & the game down with their booing & soccer style chanting" Armagh outclassed Donegal on the pitch
Pity they have no class in the stands
Hope Armagh get Dublin or Kerry next and their supporters get taught some humility
tirawleybaron (National) - 12/06/2022 17:26:43
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Dublin's Success Not Down To Money - GAA President - 7 Like(s)
Dublin's success is down to Numbers and coaching which needs funding which they get - same funding as a province and far more sponsorship than anyone else. They then get home draws all the time, get the cheap tickets, and have the same dressing room in every match.
As an amateur sport, the GAA should be trying to have an even playing field and give everyone the opportunity to play the game. They shouldn't be funding an unequal system.
Dublin has the biggest population, yet lowest playing numbers per head of population
They don't even have to do fund raisers because they get so much funding from The GAA and sponsorship that the don't even ask for handouts
They really need to be split in 3 to promote increased participation in Gaelic Games across the city. GAA is supposed to encourage participation not eletism.
tirawleybaron (National) - 13/06/2019 22:00:54
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Mayo's double standard's - 6 Like(s)
Replying To salvador: "Martin Carney has joined the Mayo campaign of outrage over the horrendous booing of Andy Moran who I'm certain couldn't give a toss. The hypocrisy here is so extraordinary It must be some sort of joke.
Mayo are right up with the best of them when it comes to booing player's(Connolly, Murphy) referees and freetakers(yesterday, Martin you may have noticed)) Some of the poor delicate Mayo fans Mayo's holier than thou attitude is some laugh. People boo players at football matches shock horror. Maybe Croke Park should provide a safe space for traumatised fans?Moran kicked some scores and Smith kicked the equalizer despite the boos. Great atmosphere. Both sets fans would be better off being quiet for those two lads because they love scoring points when booed.
I can't imagine a dub or any other fan becoming a minor celebrity if he ran on to the field to attack a referee either!" Martin Carney having rant is hardly representative of the county of Mayo.
You'd be better minded to wonder how ye managed to butcher a 7 point lead. If ye supported yer team instead of booing Andy Moran they might have beat a misfiring Mayo
tirawleybaron (National) - 31/07/2017 22:30:55
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Leinster Football The Reality - 5 Like(s)
Replying To Malonemagic: "After Meaths hammering today people will be quick to put the boot in on Leinster. But of the 8 back door teams remaining , 4 are Leinster, 2 Ulster, 1 Munster and 1 connacht. Dublin have killed the Leinster championship itself , but the other teams in Leinster are a match for anyone. Kildare beat mayo last year. Meath almost beat Tyrone. Laois won away in derry yesterday. And on top of this many leinster teams are playing without key players due to the hopelesses of it all. If Dublin moved to any other province they would kill that province too. They are phenomenal." You'll notice the Kildare v mayo match last year and the Meath v Tyrone match had one thing in common.
They were both playing at home. Leinster teams are not allowed to do that against Dublin.
Both Kildare and Meath are investing in Doing up their own county grounds. They would be better off building a new one together on the border in Lexlip big enough to play Dublin matches. That way they wouldnt always be disadvantaged against Dublin.
Meath gave Dublin plenty of it for 50 mins but couldn't hit a donkey with a banjo. Each miss put more pressure on the next one as the Meath players felt they had to take every chance to beat Dublin. They just weren't physiologically up to it in the end. Had the game been in Navan, Meath wouldn't have panicked when they hit a wide and would have had much more confidence in themselves.
In the IRB rugby rankings they say home advantage is with 10 points.
I'd say home advantage in GAA is worth 4-5 points.
No Leinster team has a chance of beating Dublin effectively starting 4 points down.
tirawleybaron (National) - 23/06/2019 20:21:49
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Leinster Football The Reality - 5 Like(s)
Replying To Joxer: "Can you please list the superstars on this Dublin "conveyor belt" please as I'm sure that our 30 and 31 year olds 8 or 9 of whom are still the core of this Dublin team would love to give their names to Jim so that they can have a rest?" The 2011/2013 all Ireland team was based on a random collection of special individuals- brogans, Flynn, Connolly, O Sullivan and those players are almost all gone now.
The Current Dublin team is based on a conveyor of All Ireland U21 winners
2010 - dean rock, Colm cooper, Rory o Carroll, James McCarthy
2012 - jack Mc Caffrey, Ciaran Kilkenny, Byrne, Mannion
2014 - fenton, Byrne, mannion, Kilkenny, small, lowndes, Costello
2017 - basquel, Howard, O Callaghan, Murchan
This is a direct product of the investment of the development funds specifically put into Dublin
Galway won in 11 and 13, with Roscommon losing finals in 12 and 14. Neither has anything to show for it so far because their structure isn't as good. That's down to lack of funding and/or emigration - neither of which Dublin have to deal with
tirawleybaron (National) - 25/06/2019 05:45:48
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Four Teams Representing Dublin Geographic Area! - 5 Like(s)
Replying To TheUsername: "I think there is a logical argument there in decades to come for a split, key figure for me is participation rates at adult senior. They are at a level now we're they are the highest in the country but only marginally. Dublins population to participation ratio is probably the worst in the country, which makes you wonder why or the need to follow "the Dublin model" or even success. If Dublin had 100k adult footballers to pick from I think that would be unfair, I could understand the logic of the argue meant for a split then.
Is it there now? Not for me and that based on participation numbers. Would I accept a split? Very biasedly, no never. There in lies the problem for the GAA, splitting Dublin in akin to to just taking the County of Dublin out of the intercounty game and killing GAA stone dead. Split teams would be boycotted, those participating vilified, I'd actively protest, there just would be no Dublin, I'd actually prefer to see Dublin pull out of the GAA do their own thing, rent the Aviva and have cracking matches Dublin A Vs B or a club blitz over the summer, that would get huge support amongst the natives in solidarity, think the DCB would hold its own financially. Who knows might even the genius of a breakaway from the GAA going forward like the PL and FA all those years ago. Ultimately I think the impact would lead to a reunification. But hey on the bright side maybe we might have a decent soccer and rugby team for a few years with lads choosing those sports in the capital.
I think all that is before you look at the financial impact for the GAA, Dublin holds its own in commercial revenue and sponsorship as we know. But there is a secondary revenue for the GAA look around Croke Park, Supervalue, BoyleSports, Centra, Eir, Bord Gais, Electric Ireland, AIB, how many of these of counties want to be involved with an organisation vilified in the country's biggest market. Eir show nothing only Dublin league games, Sky Sports always pick the Dublin game, good luck with TV deals. Premium seating and Corporate boxes are Croke parks biggest revenue generator, all sold with the knowledge the Dubs are in the ticket, I hear many say gates are falling and will hit the GAA in the pocket, revenue is going up and up year after year pre COVID, the gate these days is a small slice of the pie. Then thinking of the gate, there are only a couple of counties who can fill Croker or 75% outside a final, us and Mayo really.
So ultimately I think we might have question to answer around a split not at the moment, but in decades to come if adult partition rates continue to swell logically. It will never be accepted, in fact vilified. I hear people saying it will take a few generations to bite. I don't think so kids won't be brought down the club, they will be sent down to Rugby and soccer who will welcome them with open arms. There will be no culture or tradition of GAA in the county and on one in the county will identify with the GAA, like it was but for all but a very few pre Heffo.
The GAA might hit and hope but overall I think they would regret ever trying a split." That's a real Dublin says NO answer.
If I can't have a sport where my team is garanteed to win most of their games most of the time then I off.
It is ridiculous to state that splitting Dublin in GAA would cause people to go and follow other sports where there is no combined Dublin team is frankly ridiculous.
You might get a Dublin rugby team in a few years though if your lucky.
tirawleybaron (National) - 07/02/2021 10:17:03
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Connolly interfering with match official - 5 Like(s)
Connolly is innocent. Linesman forgot that all line balls are supposed to go Dublins way. Connolly only pushed him to remind him.
Not Connolly fault the linesman didn't apply Croke Park rules out in the sticks.
He has avoided a ban on a number of occasions, he will surely get out of this too.
tirawleybaron (National) - 03/06/2017 22:17:55
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Galway V Mayo - 4 Like(s)
Good to see some (not all) Galway posters in action.
Ungracious when winning at half time and even more ungracious in defeat.
The facts are there for anyone who is unbiased.
Mayo, Dublin and Kerry are better prepared and better trained than all other counties.
Donegal and Tyrone may be as well trained but aren't as well prepared because their championship is too tough to allow them prepare for a July/August peak.
Galway just don't have the power or conditioning to match Mayo these days. They did ok for a few years on a small Castlebar pitch playing with a double sweeper.
They are just not hard or fast enough to handle the big boys in Croke Park.
The have loads of underage talent but cannot keep lads at it for the 4-5 years of serious training it takes to operate at this level. Too many walk away every year and allow their conditioning to drop - as long as they can't keep a panel together they won't be bothering the all Ireland contenders.
tirawleybaron (National) - 25/07/2021 20:49:37
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Time For More Sense About Match Locations And Times? - 4 Like(s)
Shocking attendance in Croker today
Hope the GAA lost money on it
tirawleybaron (National) - 11/06/2022 20:44:17
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Four Teams Representing Dublin Geographic Area! - 4 Like(s)
Replying To Rolo2010: "The League isn't going anywhere. It's a popular competition and not one of the proposals posted on this thread are realistic." Sure we will just keep plodding along watching Dublin win the all Ireland while the best sports personnel in Dublin go to Rugby or Soccer because they can either have multiple teams to join or join another teams somewhere else.
In the GAA we say NO to everything that might allow a progressive discussion or allow everyone compete on an even basis.
The gist of the arguments around here are a follows:
No splitting Dublin
(1) let's continue to limit a population of 1.3m people to a maximum of 26 inter county players - this is simply unfair to those based in Dublin who wish to play at an elite level
(2) let's limit a population of 1.3m to a max of 35,000 people at an all Ireland final
No sharing of resources
(1) let's use the resources from 1.3m people to fund 1 team only and pretend that it's fair
(2) let's play the majority of matches in Dublin and not cover the travel expenses of the teams forced to play there, which punishes them financially and let's pretend that it's fair
(3) let's pretend it's a united organisation and then let each unit (that isn't named Dublin) of the organisation fend for itself financially
(4) let's pump funding generated by all counties into a central fund which distributes funding to Dublin at 10 times the rate as everyone else and pretend that it's fair
(5) let's build a national stadium and national training facility in Dublin and nowhere else, thus eliminating the need for Dublin to put any of their own money into such infrastructure and let's not provide any others with free infrastructure
Existing Competitions
(1) Let's pretend that the provincial championships are worth something even though they just keep the jackboot of tradition firmly on the neck of the weaker counties
(2) let's pretend that a set of competitions which gives the bigger counties an 8-9 month season but ends the season for 16 counties after 6 months is fair
(3) let's pretend that giving a strong county an extra 3 month period of high performance training every year over that which is given to a weaker county is somehow fair
(4) let's pretend that the weaker counties can get to the level of the stronger counties by just playing each other in a B completion that no one will give a shit about
Time for a lot of people in the GAA to cop themselves on
tirawleybaron (National) - 13/12/2020 15:24:11
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Leitrim GAA thread - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Backheel: "Who local? We had a a super locals management team with Breen and Dugdale and the were driven out too. A touch of realism about the quality of player we have would go astray." I would hope Leitrim aren't paying big money for the Andy Moran PR trip over there.
Spending valuable resources for a big name manger is a waste of time.
Better off investing in a full time skills coach to spend a day a week in every club or school in the county.
Leitrim are competitive once in a generation and have historically won a provincial once per average human lifespan.
Andy Moran won't change that.
However, if the county board looked at the census results in the county and identified where and when the next large batch of kids are. They could target rehire resources there to produce a "golden generation" and target a minor/U20/senior provincial title with them.
Pouring away money trying to beat Galway and Mayo with a big name manger is folly.
tirawleybaron (National) - 08/05/2022 20:29:12
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Mayo GAA Thread - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Pericles: "I haven't seen or heard any mention of the bench... do you know who's on it? Heard Mark Moran is back fit and playing very well. Also heard a rumour that ROD could be on the bench or even in line to start... will believe that when I see it! Both of those lads would improve Mayo's forward choices immeasurably. Still think Kildare will be dangerous and also the conditions for good football mightn't be there weather-wise, so more likely to be a game of two halves than a shootout. If Mayo have a plan to keep long ball from getting to Kildare's inside line and prevent soft goals we'll be half way home. Plus our lads must stop butchering their own goal chances: Aidan last day nearly messed up the one that led to the penalty by giving the ball to a player (Orme I think) who couldn't shoot with Mullin and another Mayo player streaking in unmarked... Mullin was lucky to have any room for a shot by the time he got the ball from Orme since he was on top of the Kildare defenders and was pulling up. Bad option taking... one pass too many and that seems to happen often enough. If the right options are taken Mayo should get goal chances today and will need to convert at least 2 of these to win (imo)." Can't understand this fascination with Mark Moran
We have seen more of him on tictok than we have in a Mayo jersey.
Living off 1 good game against a very naive Galway team 2 years ago.
tirawleybaron (National) - 11/06/2022 15:30:31
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Leinster Football Semi Finals 2022 - 3 Like(s)
These matches should be in Portlaoise (Dublin v Meath) and Tullamore (Kildare v Westmeath)
Would be way better atmosphere
Kildare v Westmeath in an empty Croke park (Dub&meath fans won't be in to watch it) will be be like lockdown all over
tirawleybaron (National) - 08/05/2022 21:24:48
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GAA Venue Selection - 3 Like(s)
WEEKEND GAA FIXTURES
SATURDAY JULY 6
All-Ireland Senior Football Championship (Round 4)
Semple Stadium, Thurles: Cork v Laois, throw-in 5.0pm
St Tiernach's Park, Clones: Cavan v Tyrone, 5.0pm (live on Sky Sports)
*Double header with the Ulster U20 Football Semi-Final between Cavan v Tyrone, 2.45
Gaelic Grounds, Limerick: Galway v Mayo Maigh, 7.0pm (live on Sky Sports)
Electric Ireland All-Ireland Minor Hurling Championship (quarter-final)
Semple Stadium, Thurles: Kilkenny v Clare, 3.0pm
SUNDAY JULY 7
All-Ireland Senior Football Championship (Round 4)
O'Moore Park, Portlaoise: Meath v Clare, 2.0pm (live on RTE)
All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship (preliminary quarter-finals)
TEG Cusack Park, Mullingar: Westmeath v Cork, 3.0pm
O'Moore Park, Portlaoise: Laois v Dublin, 4.15pm
Looking at the above you'd have to wonder what goes on in these fixtures committee meetings. When the blatantly obvious stares them in the face, they still can't get it right. They only seem interested in making sure that everyone has a seat and to hell with creating an atmosphere to enhance the experience.
Dragging Mayo and Galway to Limerick to play in a half empty stadium when the Hyde would be packed to the rafters.
Having Cork footballers (and their minibus of fans) v Laois in an empty Thurles on Saturday while Cork Hurlers are in a half full mullingar on Sunday. If Westmeath have to have home advantage then have the double header there and fill the place.
Failing the above, why not have Meath v Clare, Kilkenny vC Clare and Cork V Laois in Thurles to make some attempt to fill the place.
This obsession with choosing stadiums with enough seating to hold all the season ticket holders while the rest of the stadium is empty does nothing to promote the idea that "nothing beats being there".
Playing matches in half empty stadiums where you can here the players shouting at each other is a disaster and takes away from the spectacle and does nothing for games promotion.
Better off having packed stadia where not everyone can get in than half empty stadiums where you can swing a cat between supporters
tirawleybaron (National) - 02/07/2019 03:52:39
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Upcoming Special Congress - 3 Like(s)
Most people I know want change. In Mayo anyway, most couldn't give a monkeys about winning a provincial title. Only SAM matters these days. After 18 months with no supporters allowed Mayo couldn't sell their share of the 5k of tickets for matches with Sligo and Leitrim. Couldn't sell their allocation for the Connacht final either.
It was a similar story in Kerry and Dublin.
Kerry, Dublin, Mayo and Tyrone have been in 5 of the last 10 all ireland semis and are always in the q finals
The reason they are so far ahead of everyone else is they play 7 league matches against high quality opponents and then play another 5-6 championship matches all summer long
They use those matches to develop their squads and their style of play, training 3-4 times a week for 8-9 months of the year - while developing their S&C as they go
Under the current system they will continue to get better and will never go back to the lower standards of 80% of counties
Most other counties play all their football in Feb-May and stop playing and training for 5 months - their panel breaks up, manager gets sacked and they start all over again, while the top teams continue to progress and develop.
90% of counties are trapped in this system and have a massive turnover of players every year because young men are no longer willing to dedicate themselves to a futile cause, like hamsters on a wheel.
To hell with administrators and supporters, they aren't being asked to use up their spare time flogging themselves against a wall for nothing.
Proposal B is the best on offer. Change the championship, give players in all counties games all summer, give them the chance to develop their teams, their style of play and give them something to play for at their own level. Them give them the chance to move to the next level.
Proposal B gives them that. Any flaws can be fixed.
The current system is beyond repair - get rid of it.
tirawleybaron (National) - 10/10/2021 08:37:46
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Could the GAA go professional? - 2 Like(s)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/gaa-fixtures-generate-220m-for-economy-before-sponsorship-and-merchandising-1.2349044%3fmode=amp
If the above is correct than the country owes the players a debt and it could be semi professional at best.
The GAA can't find it really but it is in the states interest to increase that €220m and help it become international so sports tourism revenue could be increased
There are two options if the state wished to increased this number:
1. Get the GAA to structure the system properly with a spread of matches in regional towns - a tiered system with a population limit on any region or county which takes part
2. Provide a tax break for all players who take play a certain number of minutes per season which increases every year they play, with a permanent tax break for those who play 10,000 minutes in their career
If the state can give tax breaks to horse racing then why not our own indigenous sports. The six counties could be left out here but Theresa May will sort that out I'm sure
3. State purchases all stadia required and funds their upgrade. Then sells them to whoever will buy them and run the league- be it the GAA or varous franchises
tirawleybaron (National) - 23/05/2019 07:03:50
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Mayo v Tyrone - 2 Like(s)
Mayo are very good at running football and have the keys to unlock tyrone's blanket defense. Mayos problems will start if Tyrone go man to man. Mayo still have a dodgy full back line and a sweeper who cannot mark anyone.
Question is, have Tyrone the balls to push up on Mayo? I don't think so.
If they don't there only hope is Mayo relax once they get ahead and then panic as Tyrone are forced to come at them.
It will be a close finish regardless as Mayo are not ruthless enough when on top and Tyrone are too cagey to go for it.
tirawleybaron (National) - 31/07/2016 07:42:21
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Mayo V Galway - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Belclare: "Just on the game , we were missing four midfielders, our captain and main forward, he has been out all year, and clearly was nowhere near fit, Bradshaw out as well.
No team could survive this and yet we gifted them a goal, missed a pen, and pushed them to the end. so honestly I think a break is what we need, much was said of Mayos injuries yet in the end they were only two, and nothing compared to our year.
Kevin may stay, if not it probably wont happen until Sept or later, hopefully Stephen Rochford will be part of a team but with who is the biggest question.." both teams were missing players.
The fact is Galway didn't take their chances (hit the upright with a free, missed a penalty etc), and they lost their discipline while chasing the game.
The exact same reasons why Mayo lost the last 6 meetings between the teams.
There isn't much between the teams. At the end of the day Mayo wanted it more.
This Galway team gave up v Roscommon, Dublin in last years semi, gave up v tipp in 2016. They didn't give up yesterday but they haven't the cahones to win when it counts.
tirawleybaron (National) - 07/07/2019 19:28:30
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Andy Moran retires - 2 Like(s)
A really smart footballer.
Improved his game as he got older.
Will soon be back either coaching or as a S&C coach for the county.
Wouldn't be surprised to see him as Mayos first high performance director yet.
If he could teach all Mayo forwards to improve the way he did we won't have to wait long for SAM
tirawleybaron (National) - 26/08/2019 22:08:12
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Mayo V Donegal. Winner Takes All - 2 Like(s)
Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Mayo will take no stopping at all. As much as I would love to see them win an All Ireland, this is as good as it gets for them. They have squeezed as much as is possible to squeeze from this team and fair play to them -- both management and players -- for that. Best thing that can happen for the championship is that Dublin lose tomorrow (unlikely as that is to happen) against a weakened Tyrone...that way they will face their 2 most formidable opponents -- Kerry and Tyrone -- in the semis and final and really earn this last leg of the 5 in a row if they win it. Otherwise they will certainly beat Mayo and have only 1 of the 2 other possible winners of the All Ireland still left standing, to face in the final." You are a fair bitter man.
The reality is Keegan put Murphy in his pocket for 35 mins.
Durcan put McHugh in his pocket for 70.
Donegal isolated Keegan at full back for 10 mins which let them in it. Once Mayo swapped Keegan with Coen, Donegal were all out of ideas.
If you were at the game, the Town end was difficult to score into because the wind was blowing a gale one second and dropping completely a second later.
Players were taking shots thing the wind would bring it in only for the wind to drop completely.
It was much easier kicking into the wind as lads were finding the wind disappeared just as the kicked into the teeth of a gale.
Back to the post I'm responding to.
No team as put it up to the Dubs in the last 4 years bar Mayo. Last year was a cake walk because Dublin didn't play Mayo.
Tyrone/Kerry won't stop Dublin. Mayo might not either but they will give them the toughest challenge. That's a given.
Your post is not based on the facts. Your obvious bitterness does your argument no favours.
Tell me again. How did Galway get on V Dublin last year?
I stopped watching after I saw Kevin Walsh throw the towel in after 15 mins
tirawleybaron (National) - 03/08/2019 23:23:09
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