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http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-to-target-east-coast-in-response-to-big-growth-in-population-34900748.html
I got a few queries yesterday regarding comments I made regarding quotes made by the GAA President Aogán ó Fearghail so I decided to set up a thread so everyone and see what he said. It's a very interesting piece which raises a few important questions.
#1. This according to my knowledge is the first acknowledgement from a high ranking GAA Official regarding the huge funding put into Dublin over the last decade and the huge distance they have created from the rest. Will their funding now be cut significantly?
#2. Following on from #1 what type of funding will these areas {Belfast city, Meath, Kildare, Louth, Wicklow and Wexford } in relative terms to what Dublin got. The article suggests that Games Development will be the focus of this funding. Will some of Dublin's 80 GDA's be diverted to neighbouring counties?
#3 Finally, and most critically what is the GAA's position on the West Coast. Are Mayo, Donegal and Kerry going to be left neglected again just because they don't have massive commuter populations. Each has to face huge emigration issues you think the GAA as a community organisation would try to help and protect rural Ireland but they seem to be looking at who can generate the most money from them which is sad.
If Mayo or Kerry want to win an All Ireland they better get on their bike because at the moment there is only 1 Juggernaut, in the future there may be more albeit not as powerful as Dublin......
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"Will some of Dublin's 80 GDA's be diverted to neighbouring counties"?
You realise that the Dublin CB / clubs pays a fair whack of their wages right?
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 25/07/2016 12:33:02
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Replying To KYTitletown: "http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-to-target-east-coast-in-response-to-big-growth-in-population-34900748.html
I got a few queries yesterday regarding comments I made regarding quotes made by the GAA President Aogán ó Fearghail so I decided to set up a thread so everyone and see what he said. It's a very interesting piece which raises a few important questions.
#1. This according to my knowledge is the first acknowledgement from a high ranking GAA Official regarding the huge funding put into Dublin over the last decade and the huge distance they have created from the rest. Will their funding now be cut significantly?
#2. Following on from #1 what type of funding will these areas {Belfast city, Meath, Kildare, Louth, Wicklow and Wexford } in relative terms to what Dublin got. The article suggests that Games Development will be the focus of this funding. Will some of Dublin's 80 GDA's be diverted to neighbouring counties?
#3 Finally, and most critically what is the GAA's position on the West Coast. Are Mayo, Donegal and Kerry going to be left neglected again just because they don't have massive commuter populations. Each has to face huge emigration issues you think the GAA as a community organisation would try to help and protect rural Ireland but they seem to be looking at who can generate the most money from them which is sad.
If Mayo or Kerry want to win an All Ireland they better get on their bike because at the moment there is only 1 Juggernaut, in the future there may be more albeit not as powerful as Dublin......" It is scary reading that, it does look like we are being cut lose but I suppose the GAA look at us and say sure Kerry people only travel for finals and they aren't able to milk us like they can milk the dubs and Kildare Meath Louth and Westmeath and Wexford.
They managed to keep it fairly quite as well but then again it's not something they'll want to broadcast too loudly.
They will probably in the future end up splitting Dublin in 4 Meath in 2 Kildare in 2 then w-Meath Laois Wexford and Louth that's 12 teams and they will have the premier competition a super 12 so to speak and the rest of us outside Leinster will have to make do with playing against eachother or end up as feeder clubs to the big boys.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 25/07/2016 12:38:47
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To be fair to the GAA it's good strategy.
It is not its fault that there's a global trend of rural to urban migration. The game has traditionally been a rural sport and to survive the game needs to be strong on more urban areas.
With this development money maybe it can wrestle more of the urban sports market away from rugby and soccer.
Cork, Galway, Limerick and Derry cities should all be targeted next.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4223 - 25/07/2016 13:29:22
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Another "blame Dublin" thread. Yawn!
JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 25/07/2016 13:51:16
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Replying To KingdomBoy1: "It is scary reading that, it does look like we are being cut lose but I suppose the GAA look at us and say sure Kerry people only travel for finals and they aren't able to milk us like they can milk the dubs and Kildare Meath Louth and Westmeath and Wexford.
They managed to keep it fairly quite as well but then again it's not something they'll want to broadcast too loudly.
They will probably in the future end up splitting Dublin in 4 Meath in 2 Kildare in 2 then w-Meath Laois Wexford and Louth that's 12 teams and they will have the premier competition a super 12 so to speak and the rest of us outside Leinster will have to make do with playing against eachother or end up as feeder clubs to the big boys." Yeah scary time to be a Kerry fan. Sending thoughts and prayers.
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12118 - 25/07/2016 14:05:27
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Replying To jimbodub: ""Will some of Dublin's 80 GDA's be diverted to neighbouring counties"?
You realise that the Dublin CB / clubs pays a fair whack of their wages right?" You do realise that they just ignore your point? or facts or the reality. Now another thread pops up on this topic they are like weeds.
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Replying To jimbodub: ""Will some of Dublin's 80 GDA's be diverted to neighbouring counties"?
You realise that the Dublin CB / clubs pays a fair whack of their wages right?" Not hard when the clubs all seem to have bars and social clubs generating cash
manfromdelmonte (UK) - Posts: 541 - 25/07/2016 14:30:35
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Replying To arock: "You do realise that they just ignore your point? or facts or the reality. Now another thread pops up on this topic they are like weeds." Who do you think pays the Kerry GDA's??? Let me give you a clue it's not GAA HQ
It's why we only have 6 GDA's in total (5 Football 1 Hurling) as opposed to an army of them
KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 25/07/2016 14:45:29
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Replying To Breffni39: "Yeah scary time to be a Kerry fan. Sending thoughts and prayers." While its not great for Kerry now, it's our (and Rural Ireland's) future prospects is what I'm concerned about
KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 25/07/2016 14:54:25
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I would be all for deregulated funding, let each county fund their own infrastructure, equal share payments, followed by merit payments, individual county sponsorship, commerical revenue deals, kit deals and share gate receipts.
The poor mouthing for a hand out, really is getting a little pathetic, some dignity please.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 25/07/2016 14:54:52
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Replying To KYTitletown: "Who do you think pays the Kerry GDA's??? Let me give you a clue it's not GAA HQ
It's why we only have 6 GDA's in total (5 Football 1 Hurling) as opposed to an army of them" Didn't the GAA president also mention a certain team that had an actual bud load of a backroom team .
Bernard dunne gets 40 grand a year as a wellness coach.
I'd love to know is tax being paid on all these made up jobs.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 25/07/2016 15:15:04
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Bit rich excoriating others looking for help a 'handout' when Dublin have been receiving enormous investment from not only the GAA but the Government also for over decade.
It seems the GAA want to create a Premier League type situation where money and population dictates success, which is very sad given what the GAA is meant to be based on amateur ideals and community spirit.
KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 25/07/2016 15:15:29
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.... and despite all of these sad facts working against poor ickle Kerry werry
They are building a €6 million Centre Of Excellence
KY.. perhaps a few quid of that could have gone towards your development officers?
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 25/07/2016 15:27:13
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KY - Dublin are 50% funding all development money going into the capital, the DCB / clubs pay for their development officers
To put the amount Dublin has received into perspective
Look how much money Cork GAA is spending building a new stadium..... €70 MILLION (That's only the projected cost)
The GAA have invested roughly 1/7 of the projected cost of building that new stadium in Cork into games development inside Ireland's largest urban centre
Kerry are spending over half of the GAA's total investment over a 10 year period on a couple of pitches
How much money is the GAA putting into that stadium by the way?
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 25/07/2016 15:35:06
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Another anti dublin thread, if Kerry won the all Ireland last year or the leauge in april you would have no issue but because the table's have turned in recent times, kerry folk just can't handle it
mightydubs (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 25/07/2016 15:37:25
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Well the GAA opened up a serious can of worms by giving Dublin so much money,So they have created this monster and now they have to give other counties funds..
Question is,when will they give these counties funds and how much will each county receive?
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Replying To KYTitletown: "Bit rich excoriating others looking for help a 'handout' when Dublin have been receiving enormous investment from not only the GAA but the Government also for over decade.
It seems the GAA want to create a Premier League type situation where money and population dictates success, which is very sad given what the GAA is meant to be based on amateur ideals and community spirit." It's funny how pre 2011 this wasn't a issue but Dublin win 3 all Ireland's and it's in a crisis
mightydubs (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 25/07/2016 15:44:07
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Replying To jimbodub: "KY - Dublin are 50% funding all development money going into the capital, the DCB / clubs pay for their development officers
To put the amount Dublin has received into perspective
Look how much money Cork GAA is spending building a new stadium..... €70 MILLION (That's only the projected cost)
The GAA have invested roughly 1/7 of the projected cost of building that new stadium in Cork into games development inside Ireland's largest urban centre
Kerry are spending over half of the GAA's total investment over a 10 year period on a couple of pitches
How much money is the GAA putting into that stadium by the way?" Dubs get a free 13 million centre of excellence and the use of crokepark.
The deck is stacked in ye'r favor and allways has been.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 25/07/2016 16:22:11
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Replying To KYTitletown: "Bit rich excoriating others looking for help a 'handout' when Dublin have been receiving enormous investment from not only the GAA but the Government also for over decade.
It seems the GAA want to create a Premier League type situation where money and population dictates success, which is very sad given what the GAA is meant to be based on amateur ideals and community spirit." So they should invest not in the populated areas but the underpopulated ones???
witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 25/07/2016 16:26:22
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