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This is the time of year when all the player trading goes on with teams in the USA. Any word on any big names leaving this year??

Crossgaa (Mayo) - Posts: 553 - 21/04/2016 15:56:08    1848034

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I believe 2-3 Derry players intend to go according the papers during the week. Heron and Bell I think....2 starters for Derry which would be a big loss. May be convinced to stay though.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 21/04/2016 18:11:01    1848101

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Cunniffe is gone from mayo but unsure is it to the states or not!

Tizcold (Galway) - Posts: 239 - 22/04/2016 17:12:52    1848324

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3 Antrim hurlers are headed States side and this particular year I wouldn't blame them. But generally speaking it has to be frustrating for a county manager who puts faith in those players and in some cases build tactics etc around those players only for them to turn around at the business end of the year and say 'see ye lads!'. If lads want to go they should be honest at the start of the year and allow other fellas the chance to establish themselves as county players. Its usually too little too late to start drafting players in during May or June to be in tune with a group of players who have been working together for six months.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 22/04/2016 19:30:50    1848362

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As Aidan O Rourke said recently, 80% of GAA intercounty activity is now over anyway. Unless you play with Kerry, Dublin or Mayo you are not going to win anything and even if you do play with them, you won't have a serious game to play until the end of the summer. New York GAA offers good weather, regular games and the chance to socialise and have a great time. Here you get sporadic uncompetitive games and endless training and strict rules on socialising. The clever ones will go if given the opportunity.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 22/04/2016 19:49:30    1848368

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bennybunny (Cork)
You sum it up pretty much for young people it is a great way to spend the summer.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 24/04/2016 18:01:11    1848754

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Highly recommend the J1 summer....it's almost a rite of passage.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 24/04/2016 18:13:13    1848757

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Highly recommend the J1 summer....it's almost a rite of passage.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts:7263 - 24/04/2016 18:13:13

True that! Looking back at my college years I'm only sorry I didn't head away every summer. A different consideration for players of inter county standard though I'll admit. They'd be asking themselves, do I realistically think there's a chance of provincial success? If not, am I arsed with the qualifiers?

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9135 - 25/04/2016 11:39:40    1849017

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Lockjaw - there lies the problem. Many players will now only play 2 games for their county and that is it. The least amount of football and involvement from all teams in Ireland is during the summer months which is crazy.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 25/04/2016 11:49:54    1849034

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From the outside looking in it seems that there not much in the club scene in Ireland during the summer months so it makes perfect sense to travel abroad. A lot of top players get really well taken of. Work. Accommodation and cash for playing. , most county players could leave here with 20 to 30 k in there pocket after one summer I would estimate.

Crossgaa (Mayo) - Posts: 553 - 27/04/2016 12:01:13    1850031

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From the outside looking in it seems that there not much in the club scene in Ireland during the summer months so it makes perfect sense to travel abroad. A lot of top players get really well taken of. Work. Accommodation and cash for playing. , most county players could leave here with 20 to 30 k in there pocket after one summer I would estimate.

Crossgaa


How legal is all that? I understand going over on a J1 and a GAA club fixing you up with a "nice" job. But there appears to be another group that are not college students that head over or am I wrong?

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 27/04/2016 12:29:28    1850051

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Yew tree.
Yes a lot of fringe county players will leave there panels for the summer. I'd say about 400 players come to New York and around the same to Boston each year and about 3/4 are students.

Crossgaa (Mayo) - Posts: 553 - 27/04/2016 12:41:57    1850060

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Never mind fringe county players, a lot of players from counties outside of the top 4-5 will be off for the summer, whether they'd be guaranteed starters or not. Think Westmeath are going to be short about 5-6 from their panel alone.

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 484 - 28/04/2016 11:25:45    1850359

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Just out of interest - how would a player get 30k home through customs??

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 28/04/2016 12:28:43    1850391

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Probably wire it home. I assume many are therefore going over on the three month holiday visa and working (under the counter).
I know from the company I work and travel with the fee's involved for a company to sponsor someone are huge plus they need to provide doc's that they are unable to find an American to do the same job.
I don't know how any GAA club in America are funding these players...if so much money is available then maybe pumping it into training American born kids may be the way to go?

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 28/04/2016 12:45:07    1850400

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Just out of interest - how would a player get 30k home through customs??

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts:4182 - 28/04/2016 12:28:43

Not that hard if you try! Plenty of ways to get cash out of the states in small amounts before then

WestsideWarrior (Galway) - Posts: 24 - 28/04/2016 12:46:54    1850403

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Probably wire it home. I assume many are therefore going over on the three month holiday visa and working (under the counter).
I know from the company I work and travel with the fee's involved for a company to sponsor someone are huge plus they need to provide doc's that they are unable to find an American to do the same job.
I don't know how any GAA club in America are funding these players...if so much money is available then maybe pumping it into training American born kids may be the way to go?"
Yew tree
Pumping money into training kids is the way to go but that won't win senior championships.
A lot of big guns have arrived to New York now to close out the championship. Huge sums of money being paid out this year. A good county player now will earn 20k for his efforts and not to mention work.
Can't blame them it's huge for them

Crossgaa (Mayo) - Posts: 553 - 12/07/2016 15:19:01    1881904

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A good county player now will earn 20k for his efforts and not to mention work.

Can i ask where you've got that figure from?? 20k for the guts of 6-8 weeks hurling?

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 12/07/2016 15:25:04    1881911

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Replying To CroiGorm:  " A good county player now will earn 20k for his efforts and not to mention work.

Can i ask where you've got that figure from?? 20k for the guts of 6-8 weeks hurling?"
Don't know about 20K but I know lads who have been offered up to 8k for two months.

Pingcity (Longford) - Posts: 568 - 12/07/2016 15:50:52    1881933

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Replying To Pingcity:  "
Replying To CroiGorm:  " A good county player now will earn 20k for his efforts and not to mention work.

Can i ask where you've got that figure from?? 20k for the guts of 6-8 weeks hurling?"
Don't know about 20K but I know lads who have been offered up to 8k for two months."
8k I'd believe, 20k however...

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 12/07/2016 15:58:18    1881939

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