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The precedent has been set.

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Kevin Keane was provoked by Michael Murphy who struck him, Kevin Keane got sent off and Mayo subsequently appealed and won the appeal. And there, The CCCCCCCC opened a can of worms.

No doubt Diarmuid Connolly deserved the red card yesterday, No doubt whatsoever, But Dublin should appeal it and base their appeal around Kevin Keane getting off a similar offence.

Diarmuid was getting away from Lee Keegan and the replays will show Keegan dragged him to the ground first. Nobody can deny that. Diarmuid Connolly was provoked. Now of course he shouldnt have lashed out, Easy for all of us to say sitting at a keyboard. But he did.

Whats good for one....

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 31/08/2015 09:24:40    1778518

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To be fair wayno, the precedent has been set countess times, just look at Eamonn McGee's tweet from yesterday!

Given how many incidents there were off the ball, 99% of which will go unpunished, I can see Connolly, and every other player, being available next Saturday.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5009 - 31/08/2015 09:43:55    1778556

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I think the problem for Connolly is that other incidents in the game he was involved in will be brought in also.

But you do have a point to be fair, the keane appeal, the Tiernan Mc Cann fiasco, the introduction of the black card etc etc, the GAA's handling of all thing in regards to discipline has been nothing short of farcical to be honest and if i was Dublin i would be appealing things left right and centre bearing in mind everything else that has gone on.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1325 - 31/08/2015 09:46:01    1778560

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Agree wayno....I except Connolly to get off. kevin Keane didnt even feature yesterday which makes you wonder why we even appealed.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11225 - 31/08/2015 09:49:18    1778568

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Dead right Wayno1.

He was provoked. He was targeted throughout the match. Our disciplinary system is a complete joke. By letter of the law Connolly deserved the red card and deserves a suspensions. However, when the GAA fails to protect our better players on te field and when others get away with similar offences or worse, it is hard to feel some injustice and question the disciplinary system.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 31/08/2015 09:51:29    1778575

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Don't expect him to get off. Is guilty of throwing a punch and has too much previous.

realman2 (Kildare) - Posts: 464 - 31/08/2015 09:54:57    1778580

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To be fair,there were very little in that incident.Yes Keegan did start it and they rolled around on the ground,however Connolly can be seen to throw a dig.A pretty innocuous one by the looks of it,but unfortunately he gave the referee a decision to make.He seemed wound up all day,and did get reprimanded for dissent also.
On the C O Connor incident,no way was that an accident.Not at that force.He swung wildly and dangerously and "did" Rory.I fully expect him to serve a suspension.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 31/08/2015 09:56:21    1778582

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As i say, no complaints with the Red card itself on the day.

But when players including Connolly himself already, has struck an opponent and managed to get off, then i see no reason why this incident should be any different. Philly McMahon aswell.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 31/08/2015 09:57:35    1778583

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Don't expect him to get off. Is guilty of throwing a punch and has too much previous.

realman2 (Kildare) - Posts: 464 - 31/08/2015 09:59:16    1778586

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Id be happy enough if Diarmuid Connolly, Philly McMahon, Aidan O'Shea and Cillian O'Connor where all available next week.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 31/08/2015 09:59:51    1778588

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Connolly,McMahon and O Connor to miss replay.Thats the way i see it anyway.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 31/08/2015 10:03:59    1778593

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I'm not condoning Connolly, he has travelled this road before. By the rules he should miss out. But directly before they tangled on the ground Keegan elbowed him in the face. I've seen video evidence of this. You cannot punish the guy that reacted and let the perpetrator go free. If Connolly goes then Keegan joins him.

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1658 - 31/08/2015 10:12:13    1778609

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Possibly Jonny Cooper to miss out also, although the ref did see that incident and dealt with it at the time by issuing a yellow card. But I fully agree that if Connolly's ban remains then Cillian O'Connor should also for that was the exact same offence, striking a player while being held onto. Except of course Keegan didn't need 10 stitches and ROC did, as well as missing that game and probably the replay also.

What really annoyed me was seeing O'Connor protesting to the ref about the Connolly punch, trying to get the ref to send him off when he knew himself he had done the exact same thing in the first half but got away with it. Something wrong with that fella's sense of fair play, you would think he would have the decency to keep his trap shut after what he did. Hope the authorities go after him for it.

Beacaire Gorm (Dublin) - Posts: 597 - 31/08/2015 10:16:54    1778624

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Cooper will be available.

Ref dealth with his incident on the pitch with a yellow so afaik it cant be upgraded to a red, can it?

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 31/08/2015 10:30:20    1778651

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Cooper will be available.

Ref dealth with his incident on the pitch with a yellow so afaik it cant be upgraded to a red, can it?


No given it was dealt with by the ref then that should be it. However.....given the previous we have seen by those who uphold the law nothing is going to surprise me any more so probably better to sit tight just in case.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 31/08/2015 10:37:46    1778668

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realman2
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1778580 Don't expect him to get off. Is guilty of throwing a punch and has too much previous.

Why not didn't mayos keane get off for throwing a punch?

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 31/08/2015 10:38:37    1778672

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Fair is fair, and I don't see how the CCCC can overturn Keane's suspension without doing the same for Connolly. Taking a broader view, what is far more worrying is that the GAA consistently seems to set aside its own rules towards the business end of the season, hanging its own officials out to dry in the process.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 31/08/2015 10:44:57    1778683

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waynoI
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Kevin Keane was provoked by Michael Murphy who struck him, Kevin Keane got sent off and Mayo subsequently appealed and won the appeal. And there, The CCCCCCCC opened a can of worms.

No doubt Diarmuid Connolly deserved the red card yesterday, No doubt whatsoever, But Dublin should appeal it and base their appeal around Kevin Keane getting off a similar offence.

Will Cooper, McMahon and Cluxton all be using The Kevin Keane Defence as well?

Watch it back waynoI. Connolly was as much responsible for starting that tussle as Keegan so he wasn't "provoked". Incidentally however Keegan should have been black carder about 2 minutes earlier

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 31/08/2015 10:45:01    1778684

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Gleebo
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Fair is fair, and I don't see how the CCCC can overturn Keane's suspension without doing the same for Connolly. Taking a broader view, what is far more worrying is that the GAA consistently seems to set aside its own rules towards the business end of the season, hanging its own officials out to dry in the process.


That is a big problem Gleebo. If that match was a club game in Mayo or a club game in Dublin- heaps of fellas would have seen the line. When it comes to Croke Park though-anything goes

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 31/08/2015 10:48:45    1778697

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