With the Int"l Rules series now 30 yrs old, we can see that the engagement has led to each of the two indigenous sports adopting rules from the other (e.g. Gaelic has frees from the hand, and the AFL took the GAA rule that a player can't play the ball while sitting on the pitch).

Which rules should each of the sports adopt from the other - and which should be avoided above all?
Thes are mine - GAA: Adopt the Aussie tackle (concede a free on non release of the ball, not get a free), Avoid all the clogging (ref/umpire throws up the ball too much), and the behind post.
AFL: Adopt GAA"s 15-a-side and Avoid regional governance over competitions.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2573 - 22/11/2014 17:41:10    1674228

Can't see why anyone would want to adopt the AFL tackle in the black card era when we're actually rewarding agile players for a change. Watching Stephen O'Brien and James O'Donoghue jink and weave past defences was one of the highlights of the year. Bring in the rugby tackle and the whole dynamic changes, less one-on-ones, more emphasis on size.

Players should be allowed lift the ball from the ground. The game is played through the hands, let's accept this and legislate for it.

If the AFL could adopt Pat Spillane and Joe Brolly that would be sweet. Fair trade off.

HighKing81 (Meath) - Posts: 129 - 22/11/2014 19:25:09    1674247

Think it has to be the tackle as there is no tackle in football once a guy is gone away from you. there is no second chance. At least if you could tackle below the waste it would make a difference.

Also the mark from kickouts. would hate to see it for the whole game though

Fishermantom (Limerick) - Posts: 569 - 22/11/2014 19:30:21    1674251

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"Think it has to be the tackle as there is no tackle in football once a guy is gone away from you. there is no second chance. At least if you could tackle below the waste it would make a difference."

If he's gone he's gone.

HighKing81 (Meath) - Posts: 129 - 22/11/2014 19:41:41    1674253

Forget the rules get those jerseys and shorts over here, ooooh yeahhhhh :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8586 - 22/11/2014 20:13:16    1674261

Not really a rule but I liked the way they when they were showing a replay they had the little screen in the corner with the live feed.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 22/11/2014 20:20:21    1674263

If you introduce the tackle then you have to introduce the mark or there would be no scores. I don't think this would help our more skilful players.

I would like to see an interchange bench rather than substitutes. We now have 6 changes allowed on each team. Most of these happen in the second half and seriously disrupt the flow of some games.

Not sure what the AFL could take from us. A lot of the elements of the game that I don't like such as shepherding and the constant throw ups seem to be rated as skills by the Aussies. Each to their own.

MB1 (Tyrone) - Posts: 360 - 22/11/2014 20:33:56    1674265

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Not really a rule but I liked the way they when they were showing a replay they had the little screen in the corner with the live feed.

yeah i thught that was very good too and obviously wouldnt take much to implement

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/11/2014 10:25:50    1674287

The long kick out would force teams to go forward

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 23/11/2014 10:47:25    1674288

Picking the ball directly from the ground - yesterday we saw how quickly the play can move if this is done. It was tried in congress last year but got turned down. I will come eventually.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1800 - 23/11/2014 14:50:21    1674326

Pick up already allowed in women's football I think - it's not much of a 'skill' to preserve and a nightmare to administer. If we are to keep this, I"d rather put clear daylight between the ball and ground when the player goes to pluck ball - say, can only catch the ball 'at the knee, or above".

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2573 - 23/11/2014 16:49:22    1674359

Hill
Hopefully they will implement it, like you say it wouldn't take whole pile to do it either, as for the pick up futon the ground , that came up in congress last spring and it was voted to be retained . Personally it doesn't bother me that much except your left in a more vulnerable posisition when your trying to pick it up with the foot.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/11/2014 17:13:16    1674366

Not sure that the Aussie rules games has much to offer. The highlights are great but the game is terrible to watch live.
I would like to try out a few of the international rules:
1. Limit of handpass - thought that was very good - forces players to kick the ball ("it is called football" to quote Tomas O Shea)
2. Long kick out - creates a real contest for possession and forces teams to push out of defence to contest and give goalkeeper options

Aussie rules could definitely do with getting rid of the throw in when the ball bounces out of play. I never liked the constant "rucks" which slow up the play.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1105 - 24/11/2014 09:41:58    1674478

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Pick up already allowed in women's football I think - it's not much of a 'skill' to preserve and a nightmare to administer. If we are to keep this, I"d rather put clear daylight between the ball and ground when the player goes to pluck ball - say, can only catch the ball 'at the knee, or above".

Resulting in the player stopping to exercise the 'skill' and then being surrounded by about 4 players.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 24/11/2014 10:01:52    1674483

I would like to see how the limit on handpasses would work, as regards the kick out beyond the 45 I would worry that a lot of players mighten be able to at club level unless it was straigt down the field. We seen on Sat an Irish player standing on his 45 waiting and an Aussie running inside and intercepting the ball. It might be better to allow a mark for kicks beyond the 45 thus incouraging longer accurate kicking and high fielding.

lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 24/11/2014 15:15:20    1674585

To Donegalman -

OK, fair enough. How about this instead ? Ball has to be played soccer style when at a level no higher than 'half way up the shin' ?

Also, as the kick-out beyond the 45 worked well - should a similar requirement be implemented in the field of play ?

Say between the two 45s, a ball carrier has to kick across two consecutive of the four lines ? This would cut out the need for a consecutive hand pass count - and reset- and recount - which should give the ref a headache, especially if partly counting to four or six !

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2573 - 24/11/2014 18:11:43    1674658

If you adopt the Australian tackle, you would change the whole dynamic of gaa altogether, it would just be aussie rules with a round ball, there is nothing wrong with the current tackle in football, i.e. you must tackle the ball, I have to say I really enjoyed the international rules game, particularly the 2nd half, also the 1st half display from the aussies, it was played at great pace, The pick up off the ground and the long kickouts to midfield really sped up the game and led to a lot of aerial contests which was good to watch

NorthKildare (Kildare) - Posts: 197 - 24/11/2014 18:32:08    1674663

I saw clips on the AFL web site - and photo shots suggested that the Aussie tackle was used in IRS - is this not so ?

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2573 - 24/11/2014 21:05:47    1674713

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1674585 I would like to see how the limit on handpasses would work, as regards the kick out beyond the 45 I would worry that a lot of players mighten be able to at club level unless it was straigt down the field. We seen on Sat an Irish player standing on his 45 waiting and an Aussie running inside and intercepting the ball. It might be better to allow a mark for kicks beyond the 45 thus incouraging longer accurate kicking and high fielding.

The mark rule was tried in the league a few years ago. I thought it worked well but was then abandoned along with the sin bin.
The kickout beyond the 45 can be 35 or 40 in club matches, a semi circle marking 45 could also be used. I wouldn't be against the idea of all kicks going down the middle either. May the best fielder win.

I'd be of the opinion that the short kickout removes the need for highfielding midfielders (which are great to watch) and increase the need for "runners". Players than spend more of their training time running and less on fielding of the ball. A high fielding contest between two big men is one of the greatest aspects of Gaelic football. The short kickouts rob the game of one of its best aspects.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1105 - 25/11/2014 08:19:25    1674739

Why are we the only sport in the world that wants or needs to change it's rules every single year?

dirtybag (Cavan) - Posts: 242 - 25/11/2014 09:00:33    1674745