After all the investment, 1 league and 1 provincial title to show for it. Gauging from the Sunday Game discussion there, many of the underage hurlers are opting for football. Should the funds be redirected towards Christy Ring counties and even lower level counties e.g. Fingal County?

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7843 - 27/07/2014 21:56:42    1626931

Kerry got vast amounts of money when the Bull was there. And you still can't win anything in hurling. And be a good while before you beat us again in football. Is that not a waste of money? :-)

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 28/07/2014 08:06:32    1626942

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1626931 After all the investment, 1 league and 1 provincial title to show for it. Gauging from the Sunday Game discussion there, many of the underage hurlers are opting for football. Should the funds be redirected towards Christy Ring counties and even lower level counties e.g. Fingal County?



The Dublin County Board doesn't want to support Fingal (financially or otherwise) never mind Croke Park. They even set a round of championship matches the same weekend as their Nicky Rackard final, resulting in players togging out for their clubs on the day before and the afternoon of the final. The DCB said that it wasn't possible to call these Junior and Intermediate matches off!!!

Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 204 - 28/07/2014 09:17:00    1626965

Dublin were given a hurling lesson yesterday by Tipperary in Thurles. That was difficult for many to take and its especially difficult for the team and management as they have put in enormous time and effort to get to the summit. This defeat should not however discourage the 'investment' being stopped or curtailed.

I believe that Dublin would be at the bottom of the big 10 if they had not invested in hurling at grass roots level over the past 10 years. They have won the Leinster and National Leagues - a fair return for the investment, in my opinion. Yes, they were beaten yesterday, but that was another blip and playing Tipp - one of the best teams in the country - should not be the signal for investment to stop.

Hurling needs Dublin to be strong - ask Brian Coady and he will not hesitate in mentioning Dublin as being a powerhouse of hurling. Their record in underage and schools shows that their hard work is paying off. They are a force and its only a matter of time when that work - and investment will pay off in more senior success.

The next question for Dublin - a more important one - is do they stay with the same man in charge - and also - do they need to blood new players. That is where the focus needs to be.

Yesterday I felt tat Dublin's first touch was way off and Tipperary really put the pressure on Dublin in possession - note the number of possessions Conal Keaney had the pressure exerted! Tipp are a serious team and have improved a lot since the league final.

So - when adjudicating on Dublin's performance and equating success and investment made - have regard also for their current record in recent years and give credit to a very good Tipp teams.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 28/07/2014 10:47:39    1627054

No.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 28/07/2014 11:07:48    1627087

Good post carlowman.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 28/07/2014 11:19:03    1627105

Seriously, you would think people get paid to play hurling in Dublin!

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 28/07/2014 11:20:10    1627108

We'll spend our money how we see fit.

As much as some people would like us to, we're not going away!

Viva la Revolucion

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 28/07/2014 11:25:07    1627111

People exaggerate Dublins success underage. KK still dominate in Leinster. Dublin haven't won an All-Ireland yet under 18 or 21 as far as I know. Wexford have been just as successfully as Dublin at U21 level in the past 15 years.
The difference is at minor level but at the end of the day they have won 4 in recent years. They have a huge advantage over the other Leinster teams at underage level based on population and funding.
Saying that you would have expected a couple of All-Ireland there in that time. I think that is the difference between them and Tip, KK and others. Those All-Irelands are the ones that turn boys to men. Just hoping we can nail one in U21 this year. It would go a long way to helping the players forget about the beating we took yesterday.

Nick (Wexford) - Posts: 1100 - 28/07/2014 11:31:55    1627123

I have no problem if the DCB spend a chunk of the 3m they get from AIG on hurling. It is their money, it is their perogative.
But given this level of expenditure, I believe central council funding should be spent on hurling in Offaly/Wexford/Carlow/Laois instead. Dublin has loads of full time coaches, is awash with money, meanwhile the likes of Offaly are in danger of disappearing.

Above all, I believe the GAA would get better bang for their buck in these counties. How much have they spent on Dublin hurling and got 1 Leinster title out of it?

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 28/07/2014 11:32:25    1627125

It is a gradual process Dublin hurlers are on - two steps forward one step back with overall improvement with time.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 28/07/2014 11:37:33    1627131

Tyrone weren't great in the football this year, should they stop funding until they get better? Because that makes loads of sense?

The modern game relies a fair bit on investment, Dublin have a plan to split the investment to ensure they are competing in all codes at all levels of the GAA. This may be a gamble but it is a gamble that needs to be taken to have any hope of progressing.

Dubs weren't great this year and need more young players, cutting funding to the hurlers certainly wont attract them and would only serve to push more towards the big ball.

GAAHattrick (Dublin) - Posts: 278 - 28/07/2014 11:48:22    1627139

A point was being made that a lot of the underage hurlers are opting for football, which is fair enough, but is the wrong approach being taken? It would seem more logical to work with the lads that'll stick with the hurling. It seems a wasted investment otherwise.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7843 - 28/07/2014 12:49:44    1627212

No, no legend. You made a cheap dig against Dublin hurling the day we are all in bits over what happened.

I made a cheap dig back which I withdraw as I know fellas who play hurling in Ardfert and Ballyheigue.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 28/07/2014 12:54:56    1627222

Dublin are a hard team to watch play hurling. New management might change that

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 28/07/2014 13:56:59    1627272

There was no cheap dig towards the Dublin Region at all. A point was being made underage hurlers are opting for football. Word has it there's been a massive investment in the game in the Dublin Region. It's a fair question to ask as a result, has the money being wasted and could it be better spent elsewhere on the development of the game?

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7843 - 28/07/2014 16:56:13    1627427

Dublin is the nations capital where a large percentage of the country's population lives. Investment in hurling there is never a waste of money, hurling needs to be strong in Dublin if its to stay relevant as a national sport.

But Dublin were woeful yesterday. First touch deplorable, really looked out of ideas. And yet, this is the same team that won the league in 2011, and beat Kilkenny before winning the Leinster title last year. They should be way better than they were this summer, it must be hugely frustrating for Dublin hurling people. They already have the players to at least be competitive, why can't they do it consistently? Its a noodle scratcher. I think Anthiny Daly's done some great things with the team, but maybe its time for fresh ideas? Who would replace him at the helm?

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 28/07/2014 17:11:52    1627447

The Dublin hurling managers job,i would imagine,is a much sought after post,with plenty of prestige attached.There will be no shortage of applicants,from both within and outside the county.Bad day at the office yesterday,but Dublin hurling is in decent shape.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 28/07/2014 17:21:27    1627455

Must say this thread was started fairly quickly, however there is already 7 other hurling threads on same topic, after Dublins championship exits in 2007, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13. This type of loaded comment is the mirror image of the obligatory Dublin must be split in 2, 3 or 4 depending on the size of its football victories. Dublin has its own money to waste on whatever fantasy we have, like winning an all-ireland final in hurling. Just look at the vast sums wasted on the likes of single code counties, on dodgy stadiums, on dodgy centres of excellence etc etc etc.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 28/07/2014 17:34:49    1627471

There is no such county as "Dublin region" legend.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 28/07/2014 18:08:58    1627503