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Football Top 16 inevitable

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The Super 8 is still a year away from it's first runout but an expansion to a top 16 is inevitable.

The middle 4 in Division 1 of Donegal, Mayo, Tyrone and Monaghan and the top 4 in Division 2 of Galway, Kildare, Meath and Cork will all have their sights on the group stage.

The relegated Cavan and Roscommon, 4 others and the Division 1 finalists would set a decent level of competition in 4 groups of 4 contested by 8 provincial finalists and the 8 Qualifier Round 2 winners.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7823 - 12/04/2017 22:04:46    1978945

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Replying To legendzxix:  "The Super 8 is still a year away from it's first runout but an expansion to a top 16 is inevitable.

The middle 4 in Division 1 of Donegal, Mayo, Tyrone and Monaghan and the top 4 in Division 2 of Galway, Kildare, Meath and Cork will all have their sights on the group stage.

The relegated Cavan and Roscommon, 4 others and the Division 1 finalists would set a decent level of competition in 4 groups of 4 contested by 8 provincial finalists and the 8 Qualifier Round 2 winners."
Are you taking this to congress via your club ?

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 13/04/2017 10:01:26    1979006

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1. Kerry
2. Dublin / Tyrone
4. Donegal / Mayo
6. Galway
7. Cavan
8. Monaghan
9. Kildare
10. Meath
11. Cork
12. Tipp
13. Roscommon
14. Clare
15. Down
16. Derry

thats would be my current form top 16

ulster83 (Tyrone) - Posts: 114 - 13/04/2017 12:10:29    1979041

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Replying To ulster83:  "1. Kerry
2. Dublin / Tyrone
4. Donegal / Mayo
6. Galway
7. Cavan
8. Monaghan
9. Kildare
10. Meath
11. Cork
12. Tipp
13. Roscommon
14. Clare
15. Down
16. Derry

thats would be my current form top 16"
On current form!?! Tyrone have lost to Mayo, Donegal and Kerry and couple of those have been right trimmings... how can tyrone be above Mayo and Donegal.

Fair enough if you want to rank Tyrone #2, but hardly on form...

himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 13/04/2017 12:50:58    1979053

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Replying To ulster83:  "1. Kerry
2. Dublin / Tyrone
4. Donegal / Mayo
6. Galway
7. Cavan
8. Monaghan
9. Kildare
10. Meath
11. Cork
12. Tipp
13. Roscommon
14. Clare
15. Down
16. Derry

thats would be my current form top 16"
I think I would probably have Armagh in there at the expense of either Clare,Down or Derry.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 13/04/2017 13:16:41    1979064

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Replying To ulster83:  "1. Kerry
2. Dublin / Tyrone
4. Donegal / Mayo
6. Galway
7. Cavan
8. Monaghan
9. Kildare
10. Meath
11. Cork
12. Tipp
13. Roscommon
14. Clare
15. Down
16. Derry

thats would be my current form top 16"
1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3.. Donegal
4. Mayo
5/6 Galway/Meath
7. Monaghan
8. Cavan
9. Kildare
10. Cork
11.tipp
12. Clare
13. Roscommon
14. Down
15. Derry

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 13/04/2017 13:19:24    1979065

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Sorry 16 Louth. That's my top. Meath were the form team of second half of division 2 (took few games for new management to get team playing as he wanted) 7/8 points including win v Galway.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 13/04/2017 13:21:52    1979068

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Stick to the games and leave the politics to other people. You would be a much happier person if you did this.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 13/04/2017 13:26:17    1979072

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Sorry 16 Louth. That's my top. Meath were the form team of second half of division 2 (took few games for new management to get team playing as he wanted) 7/8 points including win v Galway.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:10828 - 13/04/2017


I'm just surprised we made your top 10 :)

Realistically though if there's a two tier split in the championship you're still going to see a lot of hidings dished out. There's a big gap between Dublin, Kerry, Mayo, Donegal, Tyrone and most of the chasing pack. If you have a 5 or 6 team tournament then you'd get more competitive and balanced games. With a 16 team All Ireland though you'll get a more condensed version of the championship with less variation in terms of ability between most of the teams taking part - but they'll still be hammered when they face a top team.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 13/04/2017 13:44:08    1979081

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Cavan ahead of Roscommon, Laughable

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 13/04/2017 13:44:51    1979082

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I'd go with

1 Dublin
2 Kerry
3 Mayo (different team come championship)
4 Tyrone
5 Donegal
6 Monaghan
7 Galway
8 Kildare
9 Cork
10 Meath
11 Tipperary
12 Cavan
13 Clare
14 Roscommon
15 Louth
16 Armagh

Very little between 7-11 and 12-16.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 13/04/2017 14:01:39    1979088

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Replying To royaldunne:  "1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3.. Donegal
4. Mayo
5/6 Galway/Meath
7. Monaghan
8. Cavan
9. Kildare
10. Cork
11.tipp
12. Clare
13. Roscommon
14. Down
15. Derry"
Tyrone ?

Knoxboya (Monaghan) - Posts: 357 - 13/04/2017 14:06:16    1979091

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Top 16:

1. Kerry
2. Dublin
3. Donegal
4. Monaghan
5. Mayo
6. Tyrone
7. Galway
8. Kildare
9. Cavan
10. Roscommon
11. Meath
12. Cork
13. Clare
14. Down
15. Tipp
16. Louth

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 13/04/2017 14:15:06    1979096

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Replying To ulster83:  "1. Kerry
2. Dublin / Tyrone
4. Donegal / Mayo
6. Galway
7. Cavan
8. Monaghan
9. Kildare
10. Meath
11. Cork
12. Tipp
13. Roscommon
14. Clare
15. Down
16. Derry

thats would be my current form top 16"
Are u having a laugh.. cavan meath and galway so far up.. start going to more games instead of listening to pundits

warriorgaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 20 - 13/04/2017 14:16:47    1979097

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Replying To Whammo86:  "I'd go with

1 Dublin
2 Kerry
3 Mayo (different team come championship)
4 Tyrone
5 Donegal
6 Monaghan
7 Galway
8 Kildare
9 Cork
10 Meath
11 Tipperary
12 Cavan
13 Clare
14 Roscommon
15 Louth
16 Armagh

Very little between 7-11 and 12-16."
I agree with this completely

warriorgaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 20 - 13/04/2017 14:18:47    1979099

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be very interesting to compare these lists after provincials and September, put your chin up I've some egg for you

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 13/04/2017 14:30:29    1979102

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1 Dublin
2 Kerry
3 Mayo
4 Tyrone
5 Donegal
6 Monaghan
7 Galway
8 Cork
9 Roscommon
10 Kildare
11Cavan
12 Meath
13 Tipperary
14 Clare
15 Louth
16 Armagh

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 13/04/2017 14:33:39    1979104

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Replying To warriorgaa:  "Are u having a laugh.. cavan meath and galway so far up.. start going to more games instead of listening to pundits"
Kerry no 1 is pretty weird too

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 13/04/2017 15:06:24    1979114

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very simple to sort, use the top 16 places in league @ league end, therefore the 2 relegated in div 2 will miss out and the 2 promoted of div 3 will then be added

conman1282 (Tyrone) - Posts: 88 - 13/04/2017 15:39:11    1979132

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Can't believe some people are putting Monaghan as far down as number 8, sure they have been one of the best teams so far this year. I'd go for something like this, probably not much between Donegal, Tyrone and Monaghan and you could swap them.

1 Dublin
2 Kerry
3 Mayo
4 Monaghan
5 Donegal
6 Tyrone
7 Galway
8 Kildare
9 Cavan
10 Tipperary
11 Meath
12 Roscommon
13 Cork
14 Clare
15 Derry
16 Armagh

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 13/04/2017 15:43:51    1979134

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