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Can't remember having any real spats with opposition fans down through the years, I've had mostly positive experiences I have to say. Every county without exception has it's idiots, which should be ignored if at all possible, but most people are just out to have a bit of craic and support their team.
Arguing over which county's fans are better/worse than others is both petty and pointless, and if you have any sense you won't get involved in such rubbish.
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Mentioned this a few times during the league but just can't see how Meath could become serious All Ireland contenders a few years down the line. I expect them to improve and become competitive but not sure where the talent is supposed to come from? Their underage for the last 10 years has been very poor and you can't expect players to come out of nowhere, there's only so much a good manager can do.
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Replying To Cuckoosinging: "Go away out of that Meath are some of the worst fans i have ever shared a ground with. We bet ye a few years ago in the league and i never met a more sour bunch in my life blaming this that and everything. From readinf this thread Meath posters are just as bad if not worse so come down of your high horse." Methinks your more of a grey crow than a cuckoo, listen your former players can't even leave your current management alone with some very inconsiderate and unnecessary comments so I think there's a few in Roscommon who need to come off the high horse themselves although why they were ever on a high horse is a bit of a mystery......
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Every county have their idiots and the number usually depends on factors like; the size of the county and what the expectations are from those who have little idea of reality and expect their team to perform above their ability. There are guys on here complaining about a couple of platters who were missing -none of our missing players would have made the slightest difference.
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 20/06/2017 15:20:06
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The hype machine is really gone up with Kildare. People are reading allot in sat win v Meath . Kildare are a county that has been hyped before and with the exception of 1998 and 2000 they fail to really deliver. First people need to realise Kildare always up their game v Meath. The best performances v Meath in the last 30 years are not Kerry Tyrone or Dublin it's Kildare. When kildare play Meath they play 15 all stars. Even in the decades when kildare disappeared off the football map 1930-1990 they still were a tough opponent for Meath.
I would go further and say Kildare are Meath only true bogey team. If you look at Meath record v counties it's top class. Meath have a great championship record with only Dublin and Kerry better. Wicklow Carlow haven't beaten us in over 70 years. Louth haven't in 40 years, longford have 1 victory in 50 years. While Westmeath have 1 victory in 120 years. Wexford and Offaly have 2 wins in recent times but Meath have won the vast majority of ties between both counties in the last few decades. Dublin have beaten us and we have beaten them more then any other county in Ireland. Its a rivalry . We are Cork and Mayos bogey team. Whole only 1 team (Galway 2001) from Connacht has beaten us in the last 70 years in the championship.
While blanket defence has called us many problem with Ulster teams recently, 14 All Ireland semi final games v Ulster teams and 14 Meath victories indicates a good record v Ulster teams. We also have a very good record v Kerry. After Dublin, laois and kildare have the best record. Laois have 3 wins in the last 40 years . But Kildare have the best record by a mile. Kildare now have 5 victories over Meath in the last 20 years and 9 victories in the last 50 years. After Dublin this is best record any county has v Meath in the championship by a metric mile. Meath always underestimate Kildare. And Kildare always deliver their best performances v Meath. And their worst performances v Dublin .
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Kildare always up their performance v Meath. They play like kerry , they play like men possessed when they play Meath. Some of kildares best performances in the championship in the last 25 years have been v Meath eg 97 98 2003 2010 2011 and 2017. What was Kildare best performance in Croke Park in the last ten years . It was v Meath in 2010 q final. While the victory v Meath in 98 leinster final is probaly their greatest victory / performance in the championship in the last few decades. ( Only Kerry 98 semi final 2000 leinster final win could be the only victories comparable). What was Kildare best performance in the league it was again v Mesth.
Kildare do seen to reserve their best performances v Meath. When they Meath Kildare are like men possessed but when they play Dublin they are more subdued and submissive. Look at their performance v Dublins third team in the Byrne cup. I was at that game there was no comparison to the intensity they displayed v Dublin third team and Meath a week or 2 after.
In Kildares last couple games v Dublin they have record defeats. They have lost their last 4 matchs by 22 points, 17 points , 11 points and 10 points. This might be against Dublins greatest team. But Kildares poor performance v Dubs has been gone for decades. They have only beaten Dublin twice in the last 40 years. Kildare have only beaten Dublin in 1 leinster final in 90 years. Even this current generation of talented Kildare footballers eg Feehily Doyle Flynn couldn't again beat their bogey team Dublin at underage level
. So will Kildare deliver the same sort of intensity drive they showed v Meath. If you look in time gone by and recent past there would have to be questions marks of Kildare will perform v Dublin. And there is no guarantee that this Kildare team can beat Dublin in the next few years. They have a mental bloc when it comes to Dublin and Dublin know it. Hopefully Kildare do perform in thr leinster final. A Kildare victory would be magificent for the lilies but even more so for leinster football. We need a competitive leinster championship. But we might be careful to read to much into Kildares performances v Meath. Kildare play much differently v Dublin much cautious and tense. Hopefully this will change in the leinster final. Leinster football has been an embarrassment lately.
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Replying To Furlong1949: "The hype machine is really gone up with Kildare. People are reading allot in sat win v Meath . Kildare are a county that has been hyped before and with the exception of 1998 and 2000 they fail to really deliver. First people need to realise Kildare always up their game v Meath. The best performances v Meath in the last 30 years are not Kerry Tyrone or Dublin it's Kildare. When kildare play Meath they play 15 all stars. Even in the decades when kildare disappeared off the football map 1930-1990 they still were a tough opponent for Meath.
I would go further and say Kildare are Meath only true bogey team. If you look at Meath record v counties it's top class. Meath have a great championship record with only Dublin and Kerry better. Wicklow Carlow haven't beaten us in over 70 years. Louth haven't in 40 years, longford have 1 victory in 50 years. While Westmeath have 1 victory in 120 years. Wexford and Offaly have 2 wins in recent times but Meath have won the vast majority of ties between both counties in the last few decades. Dublin have beaten us and we have beaten them more then any other county in Ireland. Its a rivalry . We are Cork and Mayos bogey team. Whole only 1 team (Galway 2001) from Connacht has beaten us in the last 70 years in the championship.
While blanket defence has called us many problem with Ulster teams recently, 14 All Ireland semi final games v Ulster teams and 14 Meath victories indicates a good record v Ulster teams. We also have a very good record v Kerry. After Dublin, laois and kildare have the best record. Laois have 3 wins in the last 40 years . But Kildare have the best record by a mile. Kildare now have 5 victories over Meath in the last 20 years and 9 victories in the last 50 years. After Dublin this is best record any county has v Meath in the championship by a metric mile. Meath always underestimate Kildare. And Kildare always deliver their best performances v Meath. And their worst performances v Dublin ." That "top class" record you lot have seems to be diminishing with every year that passes. Kildare Westmeath Derry Armagh Laois Limerick beating you in recent years in championship and even Carlow managing a draw in 2011 doenst relfect the record of a gaa powerhouse that alot of meath fans seem to think they are
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Replying To Furlong1949: "Kildare always up their performance v Meath. They play like kerry , they play like men possessed when they play Meath. Some of kildares best performances in the championship in the last 25 years have been v Meath eg 97 98 2003 2010 2011 and 2017. What was Kildare best performance in Croke Park in the last ten years . It was v Meath in 2010 q final. While the victory v Meath in 98 leinster final is probaly their greatest victory / performance in the championship in the last few decades. ( Only Kerry 98 semi final 2000 leinster final win could be the only victories comparable). What was Kildare best performance in the league it was again v Mesth.
Kildare do seen to reserve their best performances v Meath. When they Meath Kildare are like men possessed but when they play Dublin they are more subdued and submissive. Look at their performance v Dublins third team in the Byrne cup. I was at that game there was no comparison to the intensity they displayed v Dublin third team and Meath a week or 2 after.
In Kildares last couple games v Dublin they have record defeats. They have lost their last 4 matchs by 22 points, 17 points , 11 points and 10 points. This might be against Dublins greatest team. But Kildares poor performance v Dubs has been gone for decades. They have only beaten Dublin twice in the last 40 years. Kildare have only beaten Dublin in 1 leinster final in 90 years. Even this current generation of talented Kildare footballers eg Feehily Doyle Flynn couldn't again beat their bogey team Dublin at underage level
. So will Kildare deliver the same sort of intensity drive they showed v Meath. If you look in time gone by and recent past there would have to be questions marks of Kildare will perform v Dublin. And there is no guarantee that this Kildare team can beat Dublin in the next few years. They have a mental bloc when it comes to Dublin and Dublin know it. Hopefully Kildare do perform in thr leinster final. A Kildare victory would be magificent for the lilies but even more so for leinster football. We need a competitive leinster championship. But we might be careful to read to much into Kildares performances v Meath. Kildare play much differently v Dublin much cautious and tense. Hopefully this will change in the leinster final. Leinster football has been an embarrassment lately." As interesting as this information is, what point are you making that this info supports? Records like this are irrelevant when discussing the present strength of a teams. It can be used as banter between rival fans but is not useful when debating how good/bad teams are.
As for the game Saturday. I was surprised and impressed by Kildare's performance. It looks like they have really kicked on. They looked pretty solid, with a good mixture of physicality, pace, power and skill. If they can be more ruthless and clinical in front of goal then they will give the Dubs a right good game. I was expecting Meath to be better. Haven't seen them play this year but was aware they had some good results towards latter end of the league and in some challenge games. I struggled to see what their gameplan was on Saturday. They seemed to have a blanket across the half forward line that Kildare were easily able to bypass and get behind. Their 15 (Lenihen?) looked very isolated in the inside forward line. They had no kickout strategy and generally look lethargic. Definitely not playing to the same pace as Kildare. I still think they are capable of a good run in the qualifiers.
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Replying To Furlong1949: "Kildare always up their performance v Meath. They play like kerry , they play like men possessed when they play Meath. Some of kildares best performances in the championship in the last 25 years have been v Meath eg 97 98 2003 2010 2011 and 2017. What was Kildare best performance in Croke Park in the last ten years . It was v Meath in 2010 q final. While the victory v Meath in 98 leinster final is probaly their greatest victory / performance in the championship in the last few decades. ( Only Kerry 98 semi final 2000 leinster final win could be the only victories comparable). What was Kildare best performance in the league it was again v Mesth.
Kildare do seen to reserve their best performances v Meath. When they Meath Kildare are like men possessed but when they play Dublin they are more subdued and submissive. Look at their performance v Dublins third team in the Byrne cup. I was at that game there was no comparison to the intensity they displayed v Dublin third team and Meath a week or 2 after.
In Kildares last couple games v Dublin they have record defeats. They have lost their last 4 matchs by 22 points, 17 points , 11 points and 10 points. This might be against Dublins greatest team. But Kildares poor performance v Dubs has been gone for decades. They have only beaten Dublin twice in the last 40 years. Kildare have only beaten Dublin in 1 leinster final in 90 years. Even this current generation of talented Kildare footballers eg Feehily Doyle Flynn couldn't again beat their bogey team Dublin at underage level
. So will Kildare deliver the same sort of intensity drive they showed v Meath. If you look in time gone by and recent past there would have to be questions marks of Kildare will perform v Dublin. And there is no guarantee that this Kildare team can beat Dublin in the next few years. They have a mental bloc when it comes to Dublin and Dublin know it. Hopefully Kildare do perform in thr leinster final. A Kildare victory would be magificent for the lilies but even more so for leinster football. We need a competitive leinster championship. But we might be careful to read to much into Kildares performances v Meath. Kildare play much differently v Dublin much cautious and tense. Hopefully this will change in the leinster final. Leinster football has been an embarrassment lately." Most teams best performances are against teams inferior to them though. Fairly logical explanation.
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Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts:2 - 20/06/2017
Except for 2010 when we beat them at minor level with 7 players who played for us at the weekend also playing (include Paul Cribbin and that's up to 8).
Or for 2013 when our minors bet them with Chris Healy and Neil Flynn featuring that day and again on Saturday.
We don't have the best head to head record against Dublin at underage level over the last few years, but we've still had success at minor and under 21 level. As good as Dublin are, and as strong as their underage structures are I'd take winning a title over beating them and not winning one any day of the week.
If you want to talk about beating bogey teams then you must be really worried about Meath's poor record against Kildare at minor and under 21 over the last 8 or 10 years?
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Even this current generation of talented Kildare footballers eg Feehily Doyle Flynn couldn't again beat their bogey team Dublin at underage level
That generation of Kildare players beat them twice in the 2010 Leinster Minor Championship. Next crop of youngsters coming through beat them in 2013 and 2015.
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Yes we have had bad results no doubt. That's part of sport you have good days and bad days. But we have had many more good days then bad days then Kildare. Kildare have a worst record then Meath by a mile. Ye we lose but we also beat he the top teams. Kildare cannot beat the top teams. And this has been going for nearly a hundred years for nearly a century of football. You have to back to the 1920s when kildare were beaten Kerry and Dublin and Galway.
Kildare have only beaten one top 6 in any given year outside the provience in the last 90 years. That was the win over Kerry in 98. If you take every year since 1928 Kildare have not beaten a top 6 in any year outside Leinster with the exception of 98 v Kerry. How do I draw that conclusion. Well In the 40s 60s 80s Kildare did not win a leinster. While when they won a title in the 30s and 50s they lost the semi final. In 2000 they lost to Galway . And under McGeeney Kildare could not beat a top 6 team inside or outside the provience. Meath probaly have beaten up to 30 top teams in the same period.
1 Kildare have only beaten Dublin in 1 leinster final in 90 years. Meath have beaten Dublin in 7 leinster finals in 30 years.
2 Kildare have only played in 1 senior All Ireland final in 90 years. In the same period Meath have played in 18 All Ireland senior finals . So Meath were 18 times more likely to reach final then Kildare.
3 Kildare have never won Division 1 league title. Meath have 7 Division 1 league title.
4 Kildare have never won an minor All Ireland. Meath have won 3.
5 Kildare have 15 All stars. Meat have 49 All stars.
6 Kildare have never had All Ireland senior inter county winning manger. Meath have had 3 All Ireland senior inter county managers.
7Meath have the best record in the country v Dublin. Kildare have one of the worst records in the country v Dublin. Meath have one of the best records in the county v the top sucessful counties. Kildare have one of the worst.
8 In the 1940s 1950s 1960s 1970s 1980s while Meath were producing All Ireland winning team one after another Kildare were a division 3 Division 4 and sometimes a division 2 county at best.
9 Finally since Kildare have last one Sam in the when W T Cosgrove was Toaiseach and Hoover was president and the civil war had just ended. Since then Meath have won 7 All Ireland senior titles with only kerry and Dublin winning more.
I wonder why you didn't mentioned the above results. You would rather bring up Meaths bad results. If we talking about Kildare bad results we would be here all night.
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Replying To Roger: "When you go down the 'worst fans' path, there are no winners. I find that people say the worst fans are those they are closest neighbours to. Meath has borders with Louth, Monaghan, Cavan, Westmeath, Offaly, Kildare and Dublin. I'm not sure are there any other counties that border seven others. That's a lot of local rivalries, which tend to be the fiercest.
We have some stinkers as fans but i doubt it is any worse than other counties.
What Meath does have is what I call 'gaelic football snobs'. Those are people who saw Meath win All-Irelands and look at other counties (six of our seven neighbours) as poor relations regardless of their ability and are blind to current status.
I wonder are there similar types in Down, Cork or Galway?" Roger Tipp borders eight counties: Galway, Offaly, Laois, Kilkenny, Waterford, Cork, Limerick and Clare. All of these counties have won an All Ireland in hurling at least once at some stage or another.
OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 20/06/2017 17:04:08
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Replying To beir_bua: "Even this current generation of talented Kildare footballers eg Feehily Doyle Flynn couldn't again beat their bogey team Dublin at underage level
That generation of Kildare players beat them twice in the 2010 Leinster Minor Championship. Next crop of youngsters coming through beat them in 2013 and 2015." OK that's brillant. Well go on now and beat them in the final. And in the next few years. Kildarw have only beaten Dublin in 1 leinster final in nearly hundred years. Kildare are obsessed with Meath . But Meath is not a big thing. It's beaten Dublin. It always Dublin. Dublin have always being the team to beat. They are always and always have been very very tough to beat. To beat Dublin you to deliver strong great performances to beat Dublin .
Nearly all Meath supporters I have talked have said they would Kildare to beat Dublin. I doubt Kildare supporters would have said the same if Meath won . Kildare need to focus on Dublin. They always deliver v Meath . But are subdued and submissive v Dublin. I hope you beat Dublin for when kildare beat Dublin it's a great day for Kildare but an even a greater day for leinster football. Kildare need to realise that's it Dublin you have to take the fight to. But I always get the feeling with Kildare they love beating Meath out of jealosy and begrugery of Meaths sucess. This is only normal I'm sure Meath were jealous of Kildare sucess in the 20s
. But when it comes to Dublin Kildare never seem to the believe or have the guts to take the fight to Dublin. Only when they show some believe and guts will they dethrone. It very hard. Dublin have a great team. But Dublin have aways been very tough to beat. It's always been left up to Meath to dethrone Dublin Kildare this is you're time . You have the players but do you have the mental time.
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Replying To Furlong1949: "Yes we have had bad results no doubt. That's part of sport you have good days and bad days. But we have had many more good days then bad days then Kildare. Kildare have a worst record then Meath by a mile. Ye we lose but we also beat he the top teams. Kildare cannot beat the top teams. And this has been going for nearly a hundred years for nearly a century of football. You have to back to the 1920s when kildare were beaten Kerry and Dublin and Galway.
Kildare have only beaten one top 6 in any given year outside the provience in the last 90 years. That was the win over Kerry in 98. If you take every year since 1928 Kildare have not beaten a top 6 in any year outside Leinster with the exception of 98 v Kerry. How do I draw that conclusion. Well In the 40s 60s 80s Kildare did not win a leinster. While when they won a title in the 30s and 50s they lost the semi final. In 2000 they lost to Galway . And under McGeeney Kildare could not beat a top 6 team inside or outside the provience. Meath probaly have beaten up to 30 top teams in the same period.
1 Kildare have only beaten Dublin in 1 leinster final in 90 years. Meath have beaten Dublin in 7 leinster finals in 30 years.
2 Kildare have only played in 1 senior All Ireland final in 90 years. In the same period Meath have played in 18 All Ireland senior finals . So Meath were 18 times more likely to reach final then Kildare.
3 Kildare have never won Division 1 league title. Meath have 7 Division 1 league title.
4 Kildare have never won an minor All Ireland. Meath have won 3.
5 Kildare have 15 All stars. Meat have 49 All stars.
6 Kildare have never had All Ireland senior inter county winning manger. Meath have had 3 All Ireland senior inter county managers.
7Meath have the best record in the country v Dublin. Kildare have one of the worst records in the country v Dublin. Meath have one of the best records in the county v the top sucessful counties. Kildare have one of the worst.
8 In the 1940s 1950s 1960s 1970s 1980s while Meath were producing All Ireland winning team one after another Kildare were a division 3 Division 4 and sometimes a division 2 county at best.
9 Finally since Kildare have last one Sam in the when W T Cosgrove was Toaiseach and Hoover was president and the civil war had just ended. Since then Meath have won 7 All Ireland senior titles with only kerry and Dublin winning more.
I wonder why you didn't mentioned the above results. You would rather bring up Meaths bad results. If we talking about Kildare bad results we would be here all night." And all thanks to the land commission.
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As for the game Saturday. I was surprised and impressed by Kildare's performance. It looks like they have really kicked on. They looked pretty solid, with a good mixture of physicality, pace, power and skill. If they can be more ruthless and clinical in front of goal then they will give the Dubs a right good game. I was expecting Meath to be better. Haven't seen them play this year but was aware they had some good results towards latter end of the league and in some challenge games. I struggled to see what their gameplan was on Saturday. They seemed to have a blanket across the half forward line that Kildare were easily able to bypass and get behind. Their 15 (Lenihen?) looked very isolated in the inside forward line. They had no kickout strategy and generally look lethargic. Definitely not playing to the same pace as Kildare. I still think they are capable of a good run in the qualifiers." My point is simple. Kildare nearly always play brilliantly v Meath. So many of their best performance in the last 20 years have been v Meath. Meath is the only sucessful county kildare can beat. So my point is again they played brillant v Meath. But when they play Dublin or say Kerry ( 7 goal fiasco) they don't deliver. So when people talk about kildare after beating Meath this performance could be misleading. Maybe this Kildare team will beat the top teams. But definatly there is a different mentality when kildare play Meath and other sucessful counties. And this has been going on decades. They were brillant v Meath in 2010 q final. But where more nervy v Dublin in the semi final. They also have a dreadful in Croke Park. Out of the last 30 matchs there they must have lost well over 20 plus. Their last decent win in Croker was Banty Meath in 2011 or 2012. Their last 5 or 6 maths in Croker have been record defeats.
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Kildare have only beaten one top 6 in any given year outside the provience in the last 90 years. That was the win over Kerry in 98. If you take every year since 1928 Kildare have not beaten a top 6 in any year outside Leinster with the exception of 98 v Kerry. How do I draw that conclusion. Well In the 40s 60s 80s Kildare did not win a leinster. While when they won a title in the 30s and 50s they lost the semi final. In 2000 they lost to Galway . And under McGeeney Kildare could not beat a top 6 team inside or outside the provience. Meath probaly have beaten up to 30 top teams in the same period.
1 Kildare have only beaten Dublin in 1 leinster final in 90 years. Meath have beaten Dublin in 7 leinster finals in 30 years.
2 Kildare have only played in 1 senior All Ireland final in 90 years. In the same period Meath have played in 18 All Ireland senior finals . So Meath were 18 times more likely to reach final then Kildare.
3 Kildare have never won Division 1 league title. Meath have 7 Division 1 league title.
4 Kildare have never won an minor All Ireland. Meath have won 3.
5 Kildare have 15 All stars. Meat have 49 All stars.
6 Kildare have never had All Ireland senior inter county winning manger. Meath have had 3 All Ireland senior inter county managers.
7Meath have the best record in the country v Dublin. Kildare have one of the worst records in the country v Dublin. Meath have one of the best records in the county v the top sucessful counties. Kildare have one of the worst.
8 In the 1940s 1950s 1960s 1970s 1980s while Meath were producing All Ireland winning team one after another Kildare were a division 3 Division 4 and sometimes a division 2 county at best.
9 Finally since Kildare have last one Sam in the when W T Cosgrove was Toaiseach and Hoover was president and the civil war had just ended. Since then Meath have won 7 All Ireland senior titles with only kerry and Dublin winning more.
I wonder why you didn't mentioned the above results. You would rather bring up Meaths bad results. If we talking about Kildare bad results we would be here all night." Embarrased for you ....
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The reason we are sucessful is because we have produced some of the best defenders midfielder forward and managers in the history of the game. We have been beaten Dublin and Kerry for decades. Now it's your turn Kildare. You guys have to dethrone Dublin. Beating Mesth is not special really. Beating Dublin that's special and takes serious amounts of guts bravery determination and skill. All the above great legendary Meath player defeated Dublin and all of them would dominate Dublin in the provience . Year after year Dublin teams would fail to beat teams led by Paddy O Brien Jack Quinn Colm.O Rourke and Tevour Giles . It's your time kildare stand up and deliver. For the sake of leinster football.
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Replying To Furlong1949: "The hype machine is really gone up with Kildare. People are reading allot in sat win v Meath . Kildare are a county that has been hyped before and with the exception of 1998 and 2000 they fail to really deliver. First people need to realise Kildare always up their game v Meath. The best performances v Meath in the last 30 years are not Kerry Tyrone or Dublin it's Kildare. When kildare play Meath they play 15 all stars. Even in the decades when kildare disappeared off the football map 1930-1990 they still were a tough opponent for Meath.
I would go further and say Kildare are Meath only true bogey team. If you look at Meath record v counties it's top class. Meath have a great championship record with only Dublin and Kerry better. Wicklow Carlow haven't beaten us in over 70 years. Louth haven't in 40 years, longford have 1 victory in 50 years. While Westmeath have 1 victory in 120 years. Wexford and Offaly have 2 wins in recent times but Meath have won the vast majority of ties between both counties in the last few decades. Dublin have beaten us and we have beaten them more then any other county in Ireland. Its a rivalry . We are Cork and Mayos bogey team. Whole only 1 team (Galway 2001) from Connacht has beaten us in the last 70 years in the championship.
While blanket defence has called us many problem with Ulster teams recently, 14 All Ireland semi final games v Ulster teams and 14 Meath victories indicates a good record v Ulster teams. We also have a very good record v Kerry. After Dublin, laois and kildare have the best record. Laois have 3 wins in the last 40 years . But Kildare have the best record by a mile. Kildare now have 5 victories over Meath in the last 20 years and 9 victories in the last 50 years. After Dublin this is best record any county has v Meath in the championship by a metric mile. Meath always underestimate Kildare. And Kildare always deliver their best performances v Meath. And their worst performances v Dublin ." Galway beat Meath in the 1966 final too.
TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 20/06/2017 17:45:21
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Replying To Furlong1949: "Yes we have had bad results no doubt. That's part of sport you have good days and bad days. But we have had many more good days then bad days then Kildare. Kildare have a worst record then Meath by a mile. Ye we lose but we also beat he the top teams. Kildare cannot beat the top teams. And this has been going for nearly a hundred years for nearly a century of football. You have to back to the 1920s when kildare were beaten Kerry and Dublin and Galway.
Kildare have only beaten one top 6 in any given year outside the provience in the last 90 years. That was the win over Kerry in 98. If you take every year since 1928 Kildare have not beaten a top 6 in any year outside Leinster with the exception of 98 v Kerry. How do I draw that conclusion. Well In the 40s 60s 80s Kildare did not win a leinster. While when they won a title in the 30s and 50s they lost the semi final. In 2000 they lost to Galway . And under McGeeney Kildare could not beat a top 6 team inside or outside the provience. Meath probaly have beaten up to 30 top teams in the same period.
1 Kildare have only beaten Dublin in 1 leinster final in 90 years. Meath have beaten Dublin in 7 leinster finals in 30 years.
2 Kildare have only played in 1 senior All Ireland final in 90 years. In the same period Meath have played in 18 All Ireland senior finals . So Meath were 18 times more likely to reach final then Kildare.
3 Kildare have never won Division 1 league title. Meath have 7 Division 1 league title.
4 Kildare have never won an minor All Ireland. Meath have won 3.
5 Kildare have 15 All stars. Meat have 49 All stars.
6 Kildare have never had All Ireland senior inter county winning manger. Meath have had 3 All Ireland senior inter county managers.
7Meath have the best record in the country v Dublin. Kildare have one of the worst records in the country v Dublin. Meath have one of the best records in the county v the top sucessful counties. Kildare have one of the worst.
8 In the 1940s 1950s 1960s 1970s 1980s while Meath were producing All Ireland winning team one after another Kildare were a division 3 Division 4 and sometimes a division 2 county at best.
9 Finally since Kildare have last one Sam in the when W T Cosgrove was Toaiseach and Hoover was president and the civil war had just ended. Since then Meath have won 7 All Ireland senior titles with only kerry and Dublin winning more.
I wonder why you didn't mentioned the above results. You would rather bring up Meaths bad results. If we talking about Kildare bad results we would be here all night." You HAVE been here all night! History is exactly that, history. None of that does you any good on the day, won't kick a ball over the bar for you. Now go outside for god's sake, the sun is shining.
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 20/06/2017 17:53:52
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