Wicklow - New football manager

Replying To Pat Mustard:  "A here square ball and the rest of your names like Garden Rebel and the rest stop this nonsense going on about who will or might be the new manager.

If you knew anything and I know you dont seeing you dont even live in the country never mind the county youd know that every dog on the street knows the job is already gone and this committee is just a smokescreen which will recommend the man who already has it Paul Garrigan.

That is it. The chair has made sure of it with putting John mcgrath on the committee so he has the job theres no more to talk about so leave it will you with all your names most of whom wouldnt touch us with a 10 foot barge poll anyway."
Mustard all I said was that I was told by someone who is very close to the county set up that Jason Ryan was asked if he'd be interested and it would make sense that he was as he's available and based in the south east so the county would save on expenses too!!
I doubt Pete McGrath would travel this far to manage a mediocre set up for peanuts. Look at Banty apparently he's had enough of commuting to Wexford after one season

garden_rebel (Wicklow) - Posts:17 - 20/07/2017 00:03:48   2019681

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Pete McGrath would be my choice too as he has a proven record of instilling belief, motivation drive and a winning mentality into a group of players. All we have to do is look at where he brought Fermanagh a county in many ways similar to Wicklow. A manager like Jason Ryan i think would expect a winning mentality and a visible committment from players and clubs which is overall sadly lacking due to a lack of success.Pete McGrath would create a buzz factor as he is a very passionate charismatic figure and hopefully would generate a lift all boats scenario and yield sponsors if it was seen that the county board are really serious in achieving progress for our county teams. An internal manager i feel will only continue our downward slide as it will not generate any real interest or create that buzz to intice our senion clubs to commit .
We appear to have a very talented group of players at under 16 and 15 at the moment with large numbers attending these academies plus getting plenty of games and coaching fom the likes of Kevin O Brien. If we want to build on this progress Pete McGrath in my opinion would be the ideal candidate .

leftfoot (Wicklow) - Posts:79 - 20/07/2017 11:08:49   2019834

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Maybe a long shot but Turlough O'Brien if he decides to leave Carlow after getting them to R3 of the qualifiers. The only thing that would beat that is promotion to D3 (achievable) and another 5 matches like this year 9long shot). Turlough may decide to leave at the top. If he did, he would be an option in the garden county. Give him two years and cut him some slack which managers are not receiving.
Nobody would have thought that Carlow a D4 side would have played 5 matches in the championship with credible performances against the Dubs and Monaghan. Remember two top flight sides. How many people thought that was achievable when Turlough took up the mantle

Jack L (All) - Posts:2686 - 20/07/2017 17:15:35   2020137

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Replying To leftfoot:  "Pete McGrath would be my choice too as he has a proven record of instilling belief, motivation drive and a winning mentality into a group of players. All we have to do is look at where he brought Fermanagh a county in many ways similar to Wicklow. A manager like Jason Ryan i think would expect a winning mentality and a visible committment from players and clubs which is overall sadly lacking due to a lack of success.Pete McGrath would create a buzz factor as he is a very passionate charismatic figure and hopefully would generate a lift all boats scenario and yield sponsors if it was seen that the county board are really serious in achieving progress for our county teams. An internal manager i feel will only continue our downward slide as it will not generate any real interest or create that buzz to intice our senion clubs to commit .
We appear to have a very talented group of players at under 16 and 15 at the moment with large numbers attending these academies plus getting plenty of games and coaching fom the likes of Kevin O Brien. If we want to build on this progress Pete McGrath in my opinion would be the ideal candidate ."
Please tell me you are not talking about bringing young lads from underage up too fast to add to county senior set up. They are good players but need time for to bed nurtured and broth trough slowly not rushed in and destroyed.

hurlingnut (Wicklow) - Posts:96 - 20/07/2017 18:43:47   2020181

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Replying To Jack L:  "Maybe a long shot but Turlough O'Brien if he decides to leave Carlow after getting them to R3 of the qualifiers. The only thing that would beat that is promotion to D3 (achievable) and another 5 matches like this year 9long shot). Turlough may decide to leave at the top. If he did, he would be an option in the garden county. Give him two years and cut him some slack which managers are not receiving.
Nobody would have thought that Carlow a D4 side would have played 5 matches in the championship with credible performances against the Dubs and Monaghan. Remember two top flight sides. How many people thought that was achievable when Turlough took up the mantle"
Jack l you really do come out with some nonsense at times. Why would turlough Obrien leave Carlow to come to Wicklow?? He's been doing reasonably well with them last year if anything he would want to build on that for next year. Your posts make no sense at all!

garden_rebel (Wicklow) - Posts:17 - 21/07/2017 00:24:41   2020343

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Replying to hurlingnut
No,I certainly would not condone bringing young players onto the senior panel too soon. My point was that Pete McGrath would create a great buzz and his proven talents would not only lift our senior team but it would filter down to our younger players where large numbers are now attending our academy groups especially at under 15 and16.. When Micko arrived and had some success, the ripple effect could easily be seen with the number of youngsters wearing the Wicklow jersey. The same effect is seen in Carlow now. Unfortunately we failed to harness the potential that was generated by the Micko factor at juvenile level and a great chance was lost. A possible conveyor belt of young talent failed to materialise with the result that the great players we had had to continue playing into their thirties with no consistent underage structure to integrate them and eventually enter the senior scene. Surely we cannot let another opportunity be lost

leftfoot (Wicklow) - Posts:79 - 21/07/2017 20:03:50   2020697

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Replying To garden_rebel:  "Jack l you really do come out with some nonsense at times. Why would turlough Obrien leave Carlow to come to Wicklow?? He's been doing reasonably well with them last year if anything he would want to build on that for next year. Your posts make no sense at all!"
What I said was "If" and not "when". Turlough might decide that he has brought Carlow as far as he can and leave at the top. If this scenario did happen Wicklow should be ready for a move.

Jack L (All) - Posts:2686 - 21/07/2017 23:12:31   2020745

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Replying To leftfoot:  "Replying to hurlingnut
No,I certainly would not condone bringing young players onto the senior panel too soon. My point was that Pete McGrath would create a great buzz and his proven talents would not only lift our senior team but it would filter down to our younger players where large numbers are now attending our academy groups especially at under 15 and16.. When Micko arrived and had some success, the ripple effect could easily be seen with the number of youngsters wearing the Wicklow jersey. The same effect is seen in Carlow now. Unfortunately we failed to harness the potential that was generated by the Micko factor at juvenile level and a great chance was lost. A possible conveyor belt of young talent failed to materialise with the result that the great players we had had to continue playing into their thirties with no consistent underage structure to integrate them and eventually enter the senior scene. Surely we cannot let another opportunity be lost"
I agree with you in relation to getting a flow from the senior setup right trough the ranks to juvanile players. The big problem is that in the last five years we have had the poorest leadership ever at board level. We have the chance to have new people in when this lot finish at the end of the year but we have to make the best of the chance but i have always said where are the leaders to come from. Too many good people got involved over the last years and were left wondering why they tried as they were not happy with poor leaders and left. So we come to underage. Tankfully we have the academy which is run by a seperate group. they have now a great set up with good players coming trough. All is i am saying is that these players have to be left playing at their own level until they are older and no panic to get them trough to the seniors who will have to do with what is available now until lads are old enough to filter trough. On top of this all we need to look after the players properly. we have no university in wicklow so players will be away and they need to be paid proper expenses from there college and no arguments. they need proper gear and on time not when league is over as is the case now. they need proper medical (most players think what we have now is not bad for medical) we need to have all proper backup including match analysis and access to nutrition and recovery programms. The new county manager needs back up people who can go to away games for future opponents and this needs to be resoursed. We need all these proper structures in place then we can build and start bringing younger players trough when they are ready. We need Leadership and we need money.

hurlingnut (Wicklow) - Posts:96 - 22/07/2017 10:45:15   2020810

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For the last number of months; various people have posted on this site that our last manager wasn't the right man for the job and that he should be replaced. One of the reasons I feel Johnny Magee wasn't successfully is down to the penny pinching that this county engages in; we don't want to go over budget and we spend one of the lowest amounts of money on our senior teams in Ireland. So the suggestion now is that we should look to Turlough O'Brien IF he leaves Carlow but why would he comes to us? He wouldn't. In Carlow, he has 18 members of his background team which is a fact. The team have their own bus to travel to matches and a number of years ago they sold the naming rights to their county ground i.e. they are ambitious; the only time we have shown ambition is when we somehow recruited Mick O'Dwyer and least we forget, the last manager who was largely not wanted; secured the naming rights to the county ground, if he hadn't, I doubt the county would have done it themselves. All this at a time when one of the clubs in the county are shown huge ambition in terms of its future plans if only some ambition could be shown at county level we could have something to look forward to.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts:947 - 22/07/2017 10:51:04   2020817

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "For the last number of months; various people have posted on this site that our last manager wasn't the right man for the job and that he should be replaced. One of the reasons I feel Johnny Magee wasn't successfully is down to the penny pinching that this county engages in; we don't want to go over budget and we spend one of the lowest amounts of money on our senior teams in Ireland. So the suggestion now is that we should look to Turlough O'Brien IF he leaves Carlow but why would he comes to us? He wouldn't. In Carlow, he has 18 members of his background team which is a fact. The team have their own bus to travel to matches and a number of years ago they sold the naming rights to their county ground i.e. they are ambitious; the only time we have shown ambition is when we somehow recruited Mick O'Dwyer and least we forget, the last manager who was largely not wanted; secured the naming rights to the county ground, if he hadn't, I doubt the county would have done it themselves. All this at a time when one of the clubs in the county are shown huge ambition in terms of its future plans if only some ambition could be shown at county level we could have something to look forward to."
Totally agree. The only thing that matters with our failed leaders is the bottom line. Ask any of our county players about the arguments over expenses and gear every year and they will never agree to backroom team and proper backup facilitys and equipment. All about money which wont work any more.

hurlingnut (Wicklow) - Posts:96 - 22/07/2017 11:31:10   2020835

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Does anyone know when the new Wicklow football manager will be announced? I see that interviews are to be conducted in the coming weeks; I take it that an announcement will be made once the name is ratified at a county board meeting, maybe in August?

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts:947 - 26/07/2017 20:06:55   2024112

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for wicklow sake i hope john evans is picked as wicklow manager

lor12 (Wicklow) - Posts:78 - 27/07/2017 02:07:12   2024263

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