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As a Football man I am a bit browned off reading the Chronicle this morning about the big moan by u21 hurling manager.
The whole end to the football and for that matter Hurling Championships have been tailored around this B competition that correct me if Im wrong had a whole 7 teams in it as Armagh or someone pulled out.

The Senior last round Football and Intermediate quarter Finals all put back 2 weeks for this B competition which I dont believe should be classed as an Ireland as really it is a glorified Tournament. Dismal attendances at training shows the attitude towards it and yet so many club football players are put out by this rescheduling. I dont blame the County Board they have to be seen to help out but their is no such thing as a 7 day rule when its between codes and for that matter there should have been no 13 day rule for Christy Ring either or for County Footballers when Hurling Club is on

At least the County Board stood up today and grew a pair and did not call off Junior Football Quarter Finals this evening. Hopefully we will see more of this kind of stance in the future.

Hopefully now that Meath Hurling is now in Leinster Championship that next year Meath will enter the real Championship and play in Leinster U21 and forget about playing B competitions as I do hear GAA is doing away with these B and C underage Tournaments

numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 07/09/2016 09:55:04    1911104

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Replying To numberedjerseys:  "As a Football man I am a bit browned off reading the Chronicle this morning about the big moan by u21 hurling manager.
The whole end to the football and for that matter Hurling Championships have been tailored around this B competition that correct me if Im wrong had a whole 7 teams in it as Armagh or someone pulled out.

The Senior last round Football and Intermediate quarter Finals all put back 2 weeks for this B competition which I dont believe should be classed as an Ireland as really it is a glorified Tournament. Dismal attendances at training shows the attitude towards it and yet so many club football players are put out by this rescheduling. I dont blame the County Board they have to be seen to help out but their is no such thing as a 7 day rule when its between codes and for that matter there should have been no 13 day rule for Christy Ring either or for County Footballers when Hurling Club is on

At least the County Board stood up today and grew a pair and did not call off Junior Football Quarter Finals this evening. Hopefully we will see more of this kind of stance in the future.

Hopefully now that Meath Hurling is now in Leinster Championship that next year Meath will enter the real Championship and play in Leinster U21 and forget about playing B competitions as I do hear GAA is doing away with these B and C underage Tournaments"
Good Lad.. one year of hassle from the hurling and you want to have a nice moan about it. For as long as I can remember the hurlers in this county have been put out by ridiculous Meath football manager and club football games. So I'm of the opinion that its about time you got some of your own medicine

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 07/09/2016 11:21:03    1911181

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Replying To numberedjerseys:  "As a Football man I am a bit browned off reading the Chronicle this morning about the big moan by u21 hurling manager.
The whole end to the football and for that matter Hurling Championships have been tailored around this B competition that correct me if Im wrong had a whole 7 teams in it as Armagh or someone pulled out.

The Senior last round Football and Intermediate quarter Finals all put back 2 weeks for this B competition which I dont believe should be classed as an Ireland as really it is a glorified Tournament. Dismal attendances at training shows the attitude towards it and yet so many club football players are put out by this rescheduling. I dont blame the County Board they have to be seen to help out but their is no such thing as a 7 day rule when its between codes and for that matter there should have been no 13 day rule for Christy Ring either or for County Footballers when Hurling Club is on

At least the County Board stood up today and grew a pair and did not call off Junior Football Quarter Finals this evening. Hopefully we will see more of this kind of stance in the future.

Hopefully now that Meath Hurling is now in Leinster Championship that next year Meath will enter the real Championship and play in Leinster U21 and forget about playing B competitions as I do hear GAA is doing away with these B and C underage Tournaments"
"As a Football man I am a bit browned off reading the Chronicle this morning about the big moan by u21 hurling manager"

Too bad Meath is no longer a football county.
If similar B competitions existed for weaker footballing counties, rest assured Meath would be firmly among them.

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 07/09/2016 12:04:50    1911206

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Irish downunder, bad club football games.....you hardly think the quality of the club senior hurling matches are good here??? yous make me laugh

SS6 (Meath) - Posts: 149 - 07/09/2016 12:40:58    1911230

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Replying To Wedgie:  ""As a Football man I am a bit browned off reading the Chronicle this morning about the big moan by u21 hurling manager"

Too bad Meath is no longer a football county.
If similar B competitions existed for weaker footballing counties, rest assured Meath would be firmly among them."
Probably wouldn't get within an asses roar of winning them either.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 07/09/2016 12:58:07    1911243

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Replying To SS6:  "Irish downunder, bad club football games.....you hardly think the quality of the club senior hurling matches are good here??? yous make me laugh"
where did I mention anything about the standard of club football games. I was referring to the fixtures element of them and the absolute disregard for club hurlers especially those who are brave enough to take up duel codes.

Don't forget to read this again as it may not be that clear.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 07/09/2016 13:08:34    1911250

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There is no doubt that as the fortunes of the Meath hurling teams (hopefully) continue to improve, it is going to out a bigger strain on clubs and their dual players. There needs to be a balanced rational discussion about how we can accommodate dual clubs and dual players, without excessively inconveniencing the average club player of either code.
However it is pretty obvious that this is not going to be that balanced rational discussion, so I'm out. However if anyone wants to raise the level of argument above the current "Meath hurling is rubbish, no Meath football is rubbish", then maybe this thread might turn into something interesting.

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 07/09/2016 13:52:58    1911296

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Replying To numberedjerseys:  "As a Football man I am a bit browned off reading the Chronicle this morning about the big moan by u21 hurling manager.
The whole end to the football and for that matter Hurling Championships have been tailored around this B competition that correct me if Im wrong had a whole 7 teams in it as Armagh or someone pulled out.

The Senior last round Football and Intermediate quarter Finals all put back 2 weeks for this B competition which I dont believe should be classed as an Ireland as really it is a glorified Tournament. Dismal attendances at training shows the attitude towards it and yet so many club football players are put out by this rescheduling. I dont blame the County Board they have to be seen to help out but their is no such thing as a 7 day rule when its between codes and for that matter there should have been no 13 day rule for Christy Ring either or for County Footballers when Hurling Club is on

At least the County Board stood up today and grew a pair and did not call off Junior Football Quarter Finals this evening. Hopefully we will see more of this kind of stance in the future.

Hopefully now that Meath Hurling is now in Leinster Championship that next year Meath will enter the real Championship and play in Leinster U21 and forget about playing B competitions as I do hear GAA is doing away with these B and C underage Tournaments"
completely disagree and this is an outrageous statement so in your opinion the christy ring is a b compettition? and not worthy to be called an all ireland say that to any of that panel and see where it lands ya. as a duel player the fixtures this year have been a mess but in fairness there have been summers in the past few years with very little football played in them because of the hold up with meath footballers. think of longwood who constantly had to play on tuedays because of mickey burkes involvement with meath. he never complained so its a stupid argument your making.

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 07/09/2016 14:20:19    1911313

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I get the chronicle for the local court cases. Nothing I enjoy more.

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 07/09/2016 17:11:08    1911425

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Replying To bert09:  "I get the chronicle for the local court cases. Nothing I enjoy more."
I like to read the poems in the Remembrance section.

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 07/09/2016 19:23:31    1911487

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Replying To anfearbeag:  "I like to read the poems in the Remembrance section."
I read the Chronicle for the historical section, I love reading about how Meath was once a great Footballing superpower back at the turn of the last century and wonder what things must have been like back then.
Times may have changed but the mentality of the county board is still firmly rooted in those far off distant days.

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 07/09/2016 19:47:08    1911497

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Replying To anfearbeag:  "I like to read the poems in the Remembrance section."
ha! Had a good laugh at that

Good man fearbeag

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 07/09/2016 20:24:20    1911509

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Replying To numberedjerseys:  "As a Football man I am a bit browned off reading the Chronicle this morning about the big moan by u21 hurling manager.
The whole end to the football and for that matter Hurling Championships have been tailored around this B competition that correct me if Im wrong had a whole 7 teams in it as Armagh or someone pulled out.

The Senior last round Football and Intermediate quarter Finals all put back 2 weeks for this B competition which I dont believe should be classed as an Ireland as really it is a glorified Tournament. Dismal attendances at training shows the attitude towards it and yet so many club football players are put out by this rescheduling. I dont blame the County Board they have to be seen to help out but their is no such thing as a 7 day rule when its between codes and for that matter there should have been no 13 day rule for Christy Ring either or for County Footballers when Hurling Club is on

At least the County Board stood up today and grew a pair and did not call off Junior Football Quarter Finals this evening. Hopefully we will see more of this kind of stance in the future.

Hopefully now that Meath Hurling is now in Leinster Championship that next year Meath will enter the real Championship and play in Leinster U21 and forget about playing B competitions as I do hear GAA is doing away with these B and C underage Tournaments"
The only sense you spoke was the first line

"AS A FOOTBALL MAN I'M A BIT BROWNED OFF"

looking at meath trying to compete in the leinster "A" football championship I wouldnt blame ye

umpireview (Meath) - Posts: 55 - 07/09/2016 20:45:01    1911518

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I honestly don't think we need a hurling versus football debate. Both should be allowed prosper within the county without interfering with the other. The problem is not unique to Meath whereby players are representing multiple teams in both codes and the authorities feel they need to facilitate this. We have a few options.
1- Continue with the current unworkable solution, annoying everyone in the process. Nobody is happy with how club fixtures are going this year.
2- Try to facilitate players representing the county by ensuring there is no championship games until all inter-county activity is completed. Let the clubs play away with league and cup competitions. You might have to streamline the championship structures to allow them to be ran off in a speedier fashion, ala Dublin SFC in the Autumn. You could even introduce more club games so long as you agreed to play them without the county players, regardless of code or grade. There is loads of time for games between Feb and July.
3- Reduce the 13 day rule to 3 or 4 days. Players should be released to play championship with their clubs up to the Wednesday before an inter-county game. This will take the CB to strap on a pair and reduce the power of the county managers.
4- Burn the hurls or burst the balls. probably not both!

GoalsWinGames (Meath) - Posts: 303 - 08/09/2016 13:43:56    1911833

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Replying To srgt_slaughter:  "completely disagree and this is an outrageous statement so in your opinion the christy ring is a b compettition? and not worthy to be called an all ireland say that to any of that panel and see where it lands ya. as a duel player the fixtures this year have been a mess but in fairness there have been summers in the past few years with very little football played in them because of the hold up with meath footballers. think of longwood who constantly had to play on tuedays because of mickey burkes involvement with meath. he never complained so its a stupid argument your making."
Slaughter read it again that is not what I said but now that you bring it up the Christy Ring is a 2nd Tier competition wether people like it or not.
Liam McCarthy = A
Christy Ring = B
Nicky Record = C
Lowrie Maher =D
Meath will play in Leinster B next year with other counties not good enough to play in real Leinster Championship.

numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 08/09/2016 16:36:24    1911946

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Replying To numberedjerseys:  "Slaughter read it again that is not what I said but now that you bring it up the Christy Ring is a 2nd Tier competition wether people like it or not.
Liam McCarthy = A
Christy Ring = B
Nicky Record = C
Lowrie Maher =D
Meath will play in Leinster B next year with other counties not good enough to play in real Leinster Championship."
Whereas the Meath footballers will make up the numbers in the A competition and provide a good workout for the top table teams...

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 08/09/2016 19:17:38    1912016

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Replying To Wedgie:  ""As a Football man I am a bit browned off reading the Chronicle this morning about the big moan by u21 hurling manager"

Too bad Meath is no longer a football county.
If similar B competitions existed for weaker footballing counties, rest assured Meath would be firmly among them."
"Too bad Meath is no longer a football county."

Meath had 2 bad years in leinster now but realistically we're the second best team in leinster and I believe this new management team will show that. We wont compete with Dublin for quiet a while and are quite a bit off some of the other top teams but other than that we could put it up for anyone. If we get promoted to div 1 and get to and all Ireland quarter final then people will look at the footballers different. That is all very possible for 2017. The hurlers wouldnt keep the ball pucked out to a top team, so enough with that.

pat_custard (Meath) - Posts: 125 - 09/09/2016 11:21:22    1912174

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Replying To pat_custard:  "
Replying To Wedgie:  ""As a Football man I am a bit browned off reading the Chronicle this morning about the big moan by u21 hurling manager"

Too bad Meath is no longer a football county.
If similar B competitions existed for weaker footballing counties, rest assured Meath would be firmly among them."
"Too bad Meath is no longer a football county."

Meath had 2 bad years in leinster now but realistically we're the second best team in leinster and I believe this new management team will show that. We wont compete with Dublin for quiet a while and are quite a bit off some of the other top teams but other than that we could put it up for anyone. If we get promoted to div 1 and get to and all Ireland quarter final then people will look at the footballers different. That is all very possible for 2017. The hurlers wouldnt keep the ball pucked out to a top team, so enough with that."
That's the spirit, got to admire your optimism.
Luckily we still have RTE and Reeling In The Years to remind us of what it was like during the last century when Meath football was still involved in the business end of the "A competition".
If it wasn't for them we'd have a whole generation of Meath children passing into adulthood without ever have witnessing a Meath team playing at HQ in September.
What you can't deny is that Meath Hurling is definitely in the ascendancy, while Meath football has a great future behind it....

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 09/09/2016 13:41:58    1912242

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Replying To Wedgie:  "
Replying To pat_custard:  "[quote=Wedgie:  ""As a Football man I am a bit browned off reading the Chronicle this morning about the big moan by u21 hurling manager"

Too bad Meath is no longer a football county.
If similar B competitions existed for weaker footballing counties, rest assured Meath would be firmly among them."
"Too bad Meath is no longer a football county."

Meath had 2 bad years in leinster now but realistically we're the second best team in leinster and I believe this new management team will show that. We wont compete with Dublin for quiet a while and are quite a bit off some of the other top teams but other than that we could put it up for anyone. If we get promoted to div 1 and get to and all Ireland quarter final then people will look at the footballers different. That is all very possible for 2017. The hurlers wouldnt keep the ball pucked out to a top team, so enough with that."
That's the spirit, got to admire your optimism.
Luckily we still have RTE and Reeling In The Years to remind us of what it was like during the last century when Meath football was still involved in the business end of the "A competition".
If it wasn't for them we'd have a whole generation of Meath children passing into adulthood without ever have witnessing a Meath team playing at HQ in September.
What you can't deny is that Meath Hurling is definitely in the ascendancy, while Meath football has a great future behind it...."]Wedgie honestly its no wonder hurling has never been popular in meath with guys like you promoting it, I was delighted when Meath won the Christy ring, but if this is the attitude it produces id nearly now have preferred Antrim to have won it.
Cant you just enjoy BOTH? And be happy that we finally have a top notch management team along with pretty decent players in the county. Jees.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 09/09/2016 16:57:54    1912346

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Why does it (with some people) have to be hurling v football? You would swear some people who prefer hurling want to see the footballers do badly and vice-versa? FFS we are from the same county..
I prefer football,but I would like to see the hurlers do well too obviously..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/09/2016 18:04:26    1912387

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