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Cavan in 1969 had 5 All Ireland's and 38 Ulsters. They have won 1 Ulster since. That is a remarkable turnaround in fortunes for the last 47 years. Meath after 2001 7 All Ireland's 20 Leinsters. In the 15 years since only 1 Leinster and that was dodgey to say the least. In the last 8 years we have won only 1 provincial title at either minor, 21's or senior and that was the Joe Sheridan try. Please tell me I'm overreacting but I am terrified. Will the dynasty ever come back or are we Cavan part 2 ? LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1458 - 08/07/2016 01:01:37 1878270 Link 2 |
Looking at short term, next five years or so, we seem to be in for very lean times, at best threading water and remaining in Div. 2, but could quite easily drop further down the pecking order. Posters say there is an improvement in developing squads, but lads coming through need experienced men alongside them to help development. Whatever present management is doing is simply not working, few if any players have progressed over last number of years. Hopefully this group will get a chance to prove themselves in coming years under a new management team, we have certain amount of talent and I don't think we are getting the best from them. seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2142 - 08/07/2016 11:11:04 1878371 Link 2 |
We finally have as good an underage structure now as anyone in the country, yes including the dubs. It will take time but I'm sure we'll begin to reap the rewards eventually. BagglesMc (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 08/07/2016 11:19:35 1878377 Link 1 |
Baggles, I don't know where your seeing that . travel out to the rural clubs if your talking about Urban clubs , Yes , I can see that . Rural clubs no . Very little input from Co. B or C&G at Club level in Meath . In Dublin there's constant club contact with County/ High level Coaches. I don't think the current Co.B or C & G have the will to do what's required to match the Dublins , Kildares , Tyrones There are clubs dying on their feet to field teams in amalgamations .
Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 08/07/2016 11:37:42 1878387 Link 0 |
Chaisleain_Abu, BagglesMc (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 08/07/2016 12:16:44 1878412 Link 0 |
Only dynasty coming back maybe the TV programme sob (Meath) - Posts: 492 - 10/07/2016 09:33:52 1879801 Link 0 |
What Duck Dynasty?
Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 10/07/2016 09:39:25 1879805 Link 2 |
There's a good chance if we make the right managerial appointment we could be back competing at the business end of the Championship in future. There is talent within the panel and outwith it, no doubt among those who made themselves unavailable for selection. Mick is a good man but repeated the same mistakes year in, year out. Should not have been reappointed as it's been a wasted year. GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 10/07/2016 09:58:34 1879825 Link 0 |
Spoilt during Boylan era. Long barren spell before and after. Underage has not produced players of the calibre required for whatever reason. High dropout rates, poor coaching, lack of funding, Dunganny and Pairc Tailteann distraction but green shoots are maybe starting to appear. PT is still a headache but Dunganny is finished and the signs are that the Minors and Development squads are competing with the best around. Recently attended great Minor performances against Dublin and Kildare and have read recent good reports about U16 team in Gerry Reilly and about U15 team against Dublin. Unfortunately it will take 7 or 8 years for this renewed focus on player development to filter through to the Snr panel but we appear now to be competitive once again. Get the supply chain right, get the right manager in place. He may or may not be an AI winner. Its a different game now than when we last won an AI. Treat players with respect and build the desire to represent Meath and to win with Meath. AnFearBan1234 (Meath) - Posts: 110 - 11/07/2016 12:18:12 1880844 Link 0 |
in a word yes. we have two huge factors going for us- tradition and population plus no competition from soccer or rugby. navan are not a top 20 rugby club in ireland and no league of ireland socccer so thats huge. were on the doorstep of dublin and attracting huge numbers from other counties to get a great genetic mix ala dublin in the 1970s and early 80s, how many dublin payers are 100% dublin born parents,? few. dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 687 - 11/07/2016 17:31:35 1881148 Link 0 |
Dickie10, I'm sorry I'm not sure how to use the reply button, I don't even think I have one. I agree with your point on population but not about rival sports. It's fair to say that lads who are good footballers or hurlers will also usually make good soccer players. The best of these are brought to Dublin to play in the DDSL for soccer, and the best rugby players will be on the regional development squad for rugby, and later perhaps the Leinster team. BagglesMc (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 11/07/2016 22:24:25 1881438 Link 0 |
Not sure about your comment about population increase helping Meath now. In the 1970's/ 1980's/ 1990's when the population increased a fair bit in Meath they tended to be people from rural counties who really liked their GAA when they came here, similar to the existing Meath people. In the last 10 or 15 years there was a population explosion in Meath but many of the people who have come here are people from non GAA areas of Dublin. Many of their kids don't even consider themselves from Meath but rather from Dublin (I heard this from my nephews who are in primary school) and I know of some of them (kids who are friendly with my nephews) who are being brought to play soccer with Dublin underage clubs. Gaelic football has lost out to soccer in terms of kids interest in many primary schools due to the influx of kids who's parents have little interest in the GAA (apart from enjoying when Dublin beat Meath).
bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1347 - 12/07/2016 08:40:58 1881518 Link 0 |
Great stuff coming from cork. Well worth a read http://www.redfm.ie/news/cork/cork-coaching-officer-delivers-document-to-club-delegates/?preview=1 bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 12/07/2016 22:55:06 1882233 Link 2 |
bdbuddah- Agree with you comments and add that another problem is the lack of male interested teachers with football interest in primary schools as this is where it all starts. Another example of your point is Johnstown in Navan with 6-7k of a population and nobody playing GAA- it is by the way in the Walterstown parish. I go back to the basics again! you start by having good inputs into the primary schools and we are lacking significantly here- much more important than development squads. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 13/07/2016 00:59:45 1882281 Link 2 |
This is 100% true.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 13/07/2016 08:42:44 1882308 Link 1 |
Yeah, the schools thing is a good point. I think my old primary school - which used to be very strong mainly due to a male teacher from Kerry - has suffered badly in the last year or so since he retired & I think Gaelic football is dying in there now as there is only 1 male teacher left. Not that the ladies can't coach - don't get me wrong - but I guess it wouldn't be as common.
BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 13/07/2016 08:58:50 1882314 Link 0 |
I think its true a lot of top players at under age that will choose soccer in Dublin instead of gaelic. I am not even sure some realize Meath actually have a senior team and a lot couldn't tell you anyone that plays on it. And don't really care about it. I remember trying to get some u16s to go for trials for Meath and there seem little interest in some doing it. One lad actually got on one of the squads and still didn't seem to bothered about it. This is just my experience been involved for a few years. If Meat fortunes changed for the better it might encourage more to get involved.
bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 13/07/2016 09:33:50 1882327 Link 0 |