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ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/08/2015 13:40:12    1776533

A good solid start to an urgent need for re structure. Although it is welcome that this is transparent and up for everyone to see it would seem strange if the likes of Dublin were to have done this they keep their cards close to their chest then again they probably done something like this years ago which shows how far ahead they are of us in terms of development.

Jimin10 (Meath) - Posts: 783 - 26/08/2015 13:52:33    1776545

True,I just wonder if these ideas will go ahead or how will it work?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/08/2015 15:31:44    1776641

I like a few of their ideas but I'm a little confused on a few as well, the rookie squad seems like a good idea but is it practical?

Who will these 19 & 20 year olds be playing? whats the incentive to go training, is there gonna be any competition for them to play in? Majority of 19&20 years olds are in college playing football and on their clubs first team why would they bother travelling to dunganny a few times a week just for training?

The U16 manager staying with the team to minor will cause over lap at U17, what does that manager do then? Can the minor mangager pull his players at will? will the 17s manager work as a selector with the minor manager?

I'm not trying to butcher the ideas, I agree change is needed I just feel they need to be able to answer some of these questions if it is to be a success

Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 26/08/2015 16:27:23    1776690

The "Rookie" squad has me thinking alright. It's not like there's any competitions they can play in, so who will they play against? Will it take priority over some club activity?

Even if they arrange a few challenges against club teams or other county U21 panels, I doubt any player would be too excited at the prospect of training for a panel whose ultimate aim is playing a few challenge matches.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 26/08/2015 16:42:21    1776696

Fair points about the Rookie Squads,I'm not really sure how that would work either.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/08/2015 17:07:35    1776710

The full time strength and conditioning coach is a must though.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/08/2015 17:09:16    1776711

Generally speaking I think the recommendations are good, they are heavily focused on underage players which is where the real work needs to be done, also a full time strength an conditioning coach is a must and brining managers through the grades will help with player development. It's nice to see that there is talk going on about the future of Meath football, and I hope the county board does listen to the steering group and the talk turns into positive action, this is the only hope we have of returning to the top table again.

I like the idea of Junior being U23, I'd certainly have more interest in the Junior team then but generally speaking I'd like to see the Gaa doing away with U21, could they not simply make Minor U19 and then step up to Junior (U23), what do you's reckon, good or bad idea?

Finally it's nice to actually see the fans being kept up to date about what's going on, nothing more frustrating than getting knocked out of the championship so early and hardly hearing a word about the county team until January.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 26/08/2015 17:29:55    1776730

A load of nonsense. It is based on the Kildare model what does that tell you. If we are serious then lets follow the Dublin Kerry or Tyrone models. No proposals to develop North Meath football. No proposal to develop schools football. No mention on coaching. Just look at the make up of the Steering committee. Sean Boylan when did he last train a club team yet an underage team, Gerry Mc Entee the same, O'Rourke, John Kavanagh, Seamus kenny. When did any of these men last train an underage team in this county. How many of them have attended any underage games this year. Did any of you see them at any I doubt it. Where is our coaching and games officer why is he not on this committee. Strange very strange indeed.

latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 520 - 26/08/2015 18:13:04    1776765

Lads some of ye on here would complain about not having enough to complain about. I would welcome all of those proposals with the addition of having a regional championship for U14-21.

shldrs2thewheel (Meath) - Posts: 200 - 26/08/2015 19:16:35    1776795

Latouche has a number of good points.None Of the recommendations are new.And more importantly for me , any of them that have been used and tried out have not reaped all Ireland rewards.We should model ourselves on winners if we hope to be ones sometime in the future.S&C for underage , about time .Once this isn't only token stuff.Ask anyone that's been out to see the U14-U16 squads play in the last 2-4 years.There are teams out there that look and smell of professional S&C interventions.And unfortunately Meath teams for all the good work been carried out at underage level at present , do not exhibit the S&C look or the speed and power that goes with it.S&C for underage , about bl**@y time.That and leave the underage Coaches that have developed the players alone.Build a core of coaches that can work together, and that know the players and how to get the best.from them .Then st minor.level incorporate every coach from U16-U18 into the minor coaching team and await the results.Its a novel idea but Minor football isn't about the best 18 year old footballer at minor level .Its the best footballer at minor level U16/U17/U18.Then you run the chance if some success.Use this model....

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 26/08/2015 19:32:05    1776805

latouche25

Bit harsh, I mean we have to start somewhere, I know we could use more coaches but surely sitting down putting forward new proposals for the future of Meath football is better than ploughing ahead as is, which all but guarantees failure.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 26/08/2015 19:38:04    1776809

Not sure what exactly I expected but this seems like a damp squib, something that could have been written on the back of a fag box over a few pints. Don't know what the rookie squad is about, where are these lads to find the time, most will have club and college commitments to keep them busy. Not so long ago Colm was writing about young player burn out, how will this help. Thought we had a strength/conditioning coach already. Restricting junior team to u 23 may be a good idea, provided the competition is taken seriously

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2136 - 26/08/2015 20:40:58    1776837

Latouche, what are the Kerry & Dublin & Tyrone models?

Also O'Rourke and Kenny remain heavily involved at underage, Kenny has been involved with various underage teams the last few years not as a manager but coach. O'Rourke has been involved with the pats schools team since the dawn of time at this stage, a large portion of them players normally play with the meath minors every year.

Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 27/08/2015 08:14:31    1776877

A load of nonsense. It is based on the Kildare model what does that tell you. If we are serious then lets follow the Dublin Kerry or Tyrone models. No proposals to develop North Meath football. No proposal to develop schools football. No mention on coaching. Just look at the make up of the Steering committee. Sean Boylan when did he last train a club team yet an underage team, Gerry Mc Entee the same, O'Rourke, John Kavanagh, Seamus kenny. When did any of these men last train an underage team in this county. How many of them have attended any underage games this year. Did any of you see them at any I doubt it. Where is our coaching and games officer why is he not on this committee. Strange very strange indeed.

Firstly we are not just looking to develop football in North Meath but the whole county, Sean Boylan was involved with UCD this year and got significant praise for his input, O'Rourke as stated has been involved with St Pats for an eternity and had a stint with the county U21's, McEntee heavily involved with St Bridget's, outside the county but involved none the less, Seamus Kenny also involved at underage and whilst I'm not familiar with John Kavanagh I'm sure he hasn't just walked off the street. I find it amazing that when people like this come on board to try and help certain supporters put the kibosh on it straight away, I'm firmly becoming of the opinion that a lot of the reason for our recent travails are due to an increased level of negativity and personal agendas, I'm just not liking a lot of what I read lately and that's despite acknowledging a lot of faults myself.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 27/08/2015 20:07:56    1777285

I asked some simple question. Which have not been answered. To say these men are involved in underage teams is a very broad statement to say the least. Tell me what team they coached. Boylan with DCU what club is that. O'Rourke with st Pats. Tommy Diver trained them to 2 all Ireland titles. Need I go on.I know my facts. Did any of these men attend any underage games in the country. We all know the answer is no. Therefore how can they identity the issues. Get real lads. Boylan was rolled out 2 years ago as the savoury of football. Where has he been since. What is the input of the coaching and development officer to this document. Surely it's his job to be leading this yet he's not on the committee.

latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 520 - 27/08/2015 21:08:11    1777304

latouche, again I ask, what are the Kerry & Dublin & Tyrone models?

a relative of mine was a county minor about 2 years ago seamus kenny was part of that team. He still remains involved at underage, just because you don't see him at the sideline of games doesn't mean he has no input.

Kenny is one of a very select few ex players actually trying at underage and you're on her giving him a hard time, why not attack the ex players that are sitting around doing nothing except complaining i.e. Bernard Flynn.

Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 28/08/2015 09:03:14    1777327

Also to start demanding more of an effort form Sean Boylan is ridiculous!

The man won everything with meath and dedicated 20+ years of his life as senior manager and you're questioning his commitment to developing meath football? Now that's very strange.

Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 28/08/2015 09:07:30    1777329

Shocking negativity on the various plans. It is great to see steps being taken, former players and all that being involved. Iwish everyone good luck

seasiderblues (Meath) - Posts: 342 - 28/08/2015 10:05:29    1777358

Latouche

I think you are been very unfair...

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 28/08/2015 10:48:09    1777378