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Who takes responsibly for Meaths decline? Co board, senior managements or clubs, for me clubs have got away with the blame so far as I believe there is just to big a divide as clubs fight Co board as opposed to working with them example of cohesion is donegal their championship starts after donegal are out. Would thinking like this improve Meath football? With only 3 or 4 full time coaches in Meath how can they possibly improve standards? Or introduce new people to the game? Either or something has to be done there's more people living in this county now than ever before yet we've never been so bad at all level is it only up to club to introduce people to the sport username.if (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 30/06/2015 18:51:29 1745648 Link 0 |
When you look at it Meath have a bigger population than Donegal, Kerry and Mayo and have just as much if not more tradition. They really should be competing every year. yopwestmeath (Westmeath) - Posts: 10 - 30/06/2015 19:58:29 1745683 Link 0 |
Did Sean Boylan stay on too long? Will the lenght of Micky Harte's tenure at Tyrone cost them over the longer term? bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1787 - 30/06/2015 20:16:01 1745689 Link 0 |
If i recall correctly Sean Boylan agreed to come back as director of football a couple of years ago. Anyone know did that happen? Am i alone in wondering whats the story on that at the moment? Is he in situ??? nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1198 - 30/06/2015 20:28:25 1745693 Link 0 |
nobull ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 30/06/2015 20:45:28 1745698 Link 0 |
username.if- Are you trying to tell us if we closed down club football for most of the year we might improve our county team! browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2340 - 30/06/2015 20:59:22 1745706 Link 0 |
Ziggy it cant be disputed that coaching is sadly very poor at all levels as you say. I understood that was to be a key task for director to examine coaching standards and generally oversee all development plans at all ages etc. Cannot understand the silence on this.. Anyway football is in a right mess now in the county..Yet maybe its the heatwave affecting the head but maybe the next game could be when we see a Meath TEAM where we say "Why the hell couldnt they play like that against Westmeath for the whole match?" Dont look for the logic in that because it is mostly wishful thinking.But maybe....just maybe.... nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1198 - 30/06/2015 21:34:16 1745728 Link 0 |
I really believe a complete overhaul of Meath Gaa is needed from top to bottom. Preferably from someone outside the County. There is a distinct lack of leadership on and off the field and no sense of direction or how we will get out of the mess we have been in for years. Where is the money being spent ? what is the standard of coaching across all grades? What is the long term goal ? People/companies who have done this in the past with other counties or other sports ie Lenister, Munster Rugby should be brought in and their professionalism should be used. We got ourselves in this mess and dont believe we will can get ourselves out again without serious help. MeathNo3 (Meath) - Posts: 23 - 01/07/2015 10:35:01 1745824 Link 0 |
Meathno3 ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 01/07/2015 12:55:22 1745949 Link 0 |
dont understand the comment at the start with clubs fighting the county board for most of the past decade the clubs have been fine with the county boards bar the odd levy its more the fixtures over the past 3-4 years. i would say its both clubs and county board to blame no structure put in place during the glory years by co board for develpoment and clubs not pushing for it do be done now we're playing catch up srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 01/07/2015 13:08:08 1745960 Link 0 |
srgt_slaughter- Agree with you on that and will add that success does not happen overnight. All we need to do is relax! (I mean as posters). Maybe our various team managers need to be a little more astute in how we manage. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2340 - 01/07/2015 13:32:14 1745983 Link 0 |
The point i was trying to make is what we're doing at present doesn't work both underage and adult county and club. For example we've only 4 divisions and if you looked at the tables more than half the clubs have no chance of competing,div4 has intermediate and junior B clubs. How does anyone expect to take the league's seriously if there's club to grades above. It's this type of stuff only makes it harder to develop weaker teams. My suggestion would be to have a championship with north,south,east and west clubs in which each club would provide 3 or 4 of there best players and develop this from 14 up. username.if (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 01/07/2015 13:48:39 1745999 Link 0 |
i see your point the leagues can be meaningless at times but ive always been against the divisional sides coming into this this was proposed a few years ago and failed for me it would take away from the smaller clubs. i dont think youd get the same sense of pride playing with a divisional side srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 01/07/2015 14:32:41 1746032 Link 0 |
My thinking is link the county development management teams with each age grade of championships thus giving good competitive games. Cause the blitz at underage county aren't they way forward just not competitive enough playing 3 teams in 40 min games in one day. I don't feel the weaker teams would loose out actually quiet the opposite the stronger players in weaker teams would have better players to compete against if this was played from 14 the players would find the transition to county squads easier. username.if (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 01/07/2015 14:52:05 1746046 Link 0 |
1.The problem is massive.But with a genuine effort from everyone within the circles of meath gaa it can be turned around.In a time like this cool heads are needed because simple changes with a rigid governing of them will turn things around. I'm not sure that the correct personnel are in position to implement though. leftnright (Meath) - Posts: 30 - 01/07/2015 16:08:41 1746093 Link 0 |
2 My opinion would be to reduce the leagues to 2 groups within each division giving 6 games. top 2 each side play off in semis, with bottom 4 in relegation semis. Immediately we have something to play for and relevance to teams at the lower end. leftnright (Meath) - Posts: 30 - 01/07/2015 16:09:23 1746095 Link 0 |
Leftnright Yes many very valid points there . In my view to get the relevant people to accept there is a massive task ahead to get out of the crisis is the major problem. For example in March last 3 men were said to be coming together to deal with many of the issues that needed attention for years.Boylan, Mc Entee and O Rourke..what happened after that? I suspect nothing? WHY? Your point about coaching and quality of same throughout the county is very relevant. To my knowledge there is currently no qualifying standard to be achieved to work as a coach.. Not really hopeful that fundamental issues will be given proper attention,and not used as just another photo opportunity by someone. nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1198 - 01/07/2015 17:26:10 1746136 Link 0 |
I have said many times,the quality of the coaches is the biggest problem.There are a lot of side problems too.We have a lot of development squads from U14-U16,and many of the coaches are essentially volunteers,which little to no coaching ability.Not their fault of course,but who oversees this? ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 01/07/2015 17:56:48 1746149 Link 0 |
Plus they are not looked after as well as other counties.They have to bring their own gear and their own water forgod sake! ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 01/07/2015 18:01:27 1746153 Link 0 |
If you look on GAA website you'll see a section in coaching. The Games Development committee is working since 1992 developing coach education.At the moment if I want to work with a team I must have minimum foundation level coaching course done and be garda vetted.To Manage a club adult team I must have level 1 and at the moment inter county standard is Level 2. They expect to bring that to level 3 in the near future. How many coaches in all our clubs from top to bottom have these done? leftnright (Meath) - Posts: 30 - 01/07/2015 18:02:22 1746154 Link 0 |