After this year just finished i reckon we make the top 16. No.1 Kerry and then DONEGAL,MAYO,Dublin,Armagh,Monaghan,Cavan,Tyrone,Roscommon,Cork, Down,Derry,Galway and then in any order you wish Kildare,Meath,Laois.
At the start of the championship we may have made the top 10 or so. Unfortunately we went backwards after the Kildare match,and settlled for a new low for a tradional Meath team `in the championship anyway.
Most confusing is the fact that some people believe that it is down to injuries,and material not there etc. I suggest it is embarassingly obvious that the main problem is inept management. I was a supporter of this management team initially. Allowed for the honeymoon period as well.Unless very serious work is done to develop this management team ´,and i do believe they should still be given that help only if they request,and identify that major help is needed.Otherwise if we continue to do the name thing we will have the same result as this year...very poor, should be doing an awful lot better for a county with such a strong tradition

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1224 - 22/09/2014 10:23:37    1655052

Well said. I've been saying it for ages.

foreverroyal (Meath) - Posts: 349 - 22/09/2014 12:58:52    1655262

Look at the spirit and the life on the line spirit of a tiny club like ballinabrackey yesterday. It wa unreal. The work ethic, the never say die attitude. All sadly missing from the senior management set up.
Bring the bracks manager on board. Bring anyone on board. It shows what can be done when a collective effort is put in that is bigger than the some of its parts. Rathoath hadn't it , bracks had.

foreverroyal (Meath) - Posts: 349 - 22/09/2014 15:25:07    1655433

That is exactly my point with the senior team no SPIRIT... no NEVER SAY DIE..no WORK ETHIC... No question about it that is poor management. If we do not want to address that issue now we can forget about everything else.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1224 - 22/09/2014 17:36:30    1655546

You have Cavan, who won 1 match in the championship (vs. Westmeath, and who scored 0-09 vs Armagh and 0-05 against Roscommon, aswell as a Derry team who lost in the first round of the qualifiers ahead of us?

While we're nowhere near the top, we're closer than they are anyway.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 22/09/2014 19:45:04    1655596

After this year just finished i reckon we make the top 16. No.1 Kerry and then DONEGAL,MAYO,Dublin,Armagh,Monaghan,Cavan,Tyrone,Roscommon,Cork, Down,Derry,Galway and then in any order you wish Kildare,Meath,Laois.
At the start of the championship we may have made the top 10 or so. Unfortunately we went backwards after the Kildare match,and settlled for a new low for a tradional Meath team `in the championship anyway.
Most confusing is the fact that some people believe that it is down to injuries,and material not there etc. I suggest it is embarassingly obvious that the main problem is inept management. I was a supporter of this management team initially. Allowed for the honeymoon period as well.Unless very serious work is done to develop this management team ´,and i do believe they should still be given that help only if they request,and identify that major help is needed.Otherwise if we continue to do the name thing we will have the same result as this year...very poor, should be doing an awful lot better for a county with such a strong tradition

We get it you don't like MO'D, no need to reiterate it by putting out strange team rankings....

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 22/09/2014 21:24:01    1655648

Have to correct you there......From what i know of MOD he is a gentleman as a person!! Just as a manager maybe he is too gentle?.Anyway his style up to now is not working. As said before not about WHO manages but HOW they manage...On rankings issue who cares a couple places up or down?.We are nowhere near where we should be

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1224 - 23/09/2014 11:14:49    1655787

Just for interest I saw this in the main page and think it is both a fair and accurate return for the year......

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These are unofficial rankings based on the same point system used by the IRB.

1. Kerry 103.57
2. Donegal 99.99
3. Dublin 98.27
4. Mayo 97.81
5. Monaghan 92.60
6. Cork 91.95
7. Armagh 90.93
8. Tyrone 90.50
9. Kildare 88.93
10. Meath 87.31
11. Galway 85.56
12. Derry 85.00
13. Roscommon 84.30
14. Laois 83.57
15. Tipperary 83.18
16. Down 82.14
17. Louth 79.14
18. Cavan 79.08
19. Wexford 76.79
20. Clare 76.04
21. Sligo 75.99
22. Westmeath 74.50
23. Longford 74.17
24. Fermanagh 72.87
25. Limerick 72.62
26. Antrim 70.57
27. Wicklow 70.05
28. Leitrim 69.68
29. Offaly 67.42
30. London 63.68
31. Carlow 63.20
32. Waterford 62.63
33. New York 57.54

What do we think? Does the ranking seem fair? Is anyone to high or low?

Just as a point of interest for anyone into it. The average co-efficient for each province is as follows:
Ulster 84.85
Connaught 82.66 (excluding London & NY)
Munster 81.66
Leinster 78.46

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 23/09/2014 16:41:22    1656116

Only one I'd have different is Derry are ahead of us and I'd have Kildare behind.
But it makes no difference let us be 10 or 16. We are nowhere near where we should be at this stage. And yes I agree with no bull that management must take some responsibility in this too.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 23/09/2014 17:22:36    1656156

I honestly don't think this team will get a better shot at promotion to Div. 1 under MOD than NFL 2015. Some tough ties early on but a couple of points on the road would set us up nicely going into the second half of the league campaign. Remember, Armagh will be in Div. 3, Galway will be adapting to a new regime. Make or break time.

We have some talented footballers, they need to wise up a bit, toughen up as well but they're young. Division 1 is where they need to be. Could be the making of them.

HighKing81 (Meath) - Posts: 129 - 23/09/2014 19:08:20    1656231

High king. I just don't see it this year myself
Kildare could beat us in navan although I'd say that game will be moved to Croke park. Galway new manager will probably help rather than hinder them, let's be honest with all that under age success Mulholland under achieved. Laois will be another difficult tie but we should beat them, I'd also say wins against rossies and westies is also a must , down in newry I can't see us getting anything so that's 6 points and Cavan is the hard one to call as they destroyed us 2 years ago and unlike down they play the ulster style that we just can't seem to beat. I hope you are right, but I'm very down beat about our chances, if someone handed me mid table id take hand and all at this stage.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 23/09/2014 20:08:16    1656279

Only one position matters in the top 16 and that's number one. All other counties might as well be equal as far as I can see.

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 23/09/2014 20:20:04    1656289