What do people think of the nominations for the Meath minors? Correct im if I'm wrong but wasn't Kenny Morgan a selector for Eoin Carroll this year! o Shea has been with that u-17 squad for a few years

username.if (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 02/09/2014 16:42:34    1647002

O Shea has been with that squad since 15's . Kenny Morgan was with O Carroll last year. Any word on when the new Manager is in place? Would make sense to be done shortly considering minor championship starts this weekend.

Forglory (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 10/09/2014 10:04:40    1650432

Yes Forglory .K. morgan was with minors as a selector . D. oShea has been Coaching the lads From 15 teens and i hope the Co board keep him in place . And bring in the likes of S.Kenny and Martin o Connell two very good football people as his Selectors . Just look at Kerry and Donegal both in the All Ireland because they stayed with the Coaches from under 15 up .

Rathcairn (Meath) - Posts: 39 - 12/09/2014 14:54:56    1651349

rathcairn

I would agree with you

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 12/09/2014 16:01:54    1651382

Raithcairn.. is M O connell part of his backroom team with S Kenny and who else? What is Kenny Morgan bringing to the table?

Forglory (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 14/09/2014 17:51:21    1651932

Interviews thursday so I'm told. Dunno who is on the interview panel.

Forglory (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 16/09/2014 10:05:55    1652520

Would love to see o Shea get the job, seems to have a good range of players from all around the county on his u17 squad. Not just south meath once. Also the panel for next year is very strong and since o Shea knows all the players can't see any other outcome.

Taysty (Meath) - Posts: 9 - 18/09/2014 08:03:19    1653257

What is the problem if their are a lot of South Meath players on panels?? Years ago many of them were not on it and we had complaints.The fact is,that great work is being done at a lot of South Meath clubs,and generally,they have the best players.

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 18/09/2014 14:27:34    1653440

There were a lot of u-17s involved in this years minor panel and a few u-16 so Morgan would have a good knowledge of them also. Also this years minors had players from all over the county represented not just South Meath.

Feedthefish (Meath) - Posts: 4 - 18/09/2014 14:43:17    1653451

What exactly is "North Meath" anyway? I'll roughly call it any part of Meath north of the Boyne and the N51.

Would the fact the vast vast majority of the counties population is in "South/Mid Meath" not make it look like they are better represented? You have Navan, Trim, Ashbourne, Dunboyne, Ratoath, Dunshaughlin, Summerhill, Batterstown, Enfield, Longwood, Dunderry, Ballivor, Athboy, Duleek, Stamullen and Bettystown/Pilltown in that area.

What has "North Meath" in comparison? Kells, Oldcastle, Nobber, Slane are the only significant ones I can think of.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 18/09/2014 15:05:10    1653462

Castlebravo , you seem to forget , Nobber , Wolfe tones , Carnaross , Oldcastle ,Ballinlough , Kilmainhamwood, Drumcondrath , Meath Hill ,Syddan , Moynalty , Kells, Moylough , just to name a few . All clubs have supplied noted players to Meath teams in the past , and some in the recent past . North Meath isn't a separate county , its just a less diluted Royal Meath Blood area in the county of Meath.Representation on the county team should not be based on population size but in individual ability , it should not be based on what club you play for , look to the successful past and you will see that what I have been saying is correct , and is based on fact and not gut feeling, and popular belief/hype .

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 18/09/2014 17:03:05    1653532

At the same time,say there is 30 players on any Meath panel,underage or senior,should we have 15 players from North Meath and 15 players from South Meath,just to make sure nobody looks biased? :D I honestly don't think,they think of the clubs as such.

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 18/09/2014 17:39:52    1653553

Chaislean Abu, I dont really want to get into a political/population argument on a thread about the minors and this is my last post on the matter. But that wasnt my point. You have named tiny rural villages and townlands compared to sprawling commuter towns of 5000 people or more. Its very straightforward that since most of the people in the county are in the mid/south area, most of the players will be from the mid/south area.

Say (hypothetically) 150'000 people live in Meath, 100'000 in the "South" part and 50'000 in the "North" part. Now its a 30 man meath panel, so 1 in 5000 people will make it. Assuming all talent is spread out equally, that would mean 20 from the South and 10 from the North would make it onto the panel. Its statisticaly very very unlikely that you'll have a 50:50 split of players.

Have a look at this and tell me where all the people (and hence players) in the county are: http://www.clarecoco.ie/Accessible_HTML/business/socio_economic_profile_of_clare/images/map_population.jpg

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 18/09/2014 18:44:10    1653580

Point taking Castlebravo that most of Meath's population is in the south of the country that's a statistical fact, however this was never in doubt. What is a fact is that player commitment in these larger areas can be very divided compared to those in the more rural area, plus the issue with second generation players playing for their parents county also comes into play. more in these area. What I was stating is Players should be on the panel based on Skill , Commitment, etc. not on the area they are from or the club they are with ,. Or even the Divisions in which they play , talent , environmentally influenced or natural can happen in any area or club . Statistically the larger the sample the more accurate the result however this does not always translate it self into a skills based sport , as other factors come into play such as environment , culture , and exposure to the other stimulus . e.g. , rugby, Soccer, basketball, Athletics , Cricket etc. Therefore its the mentors , coaches job to select the best players in a particular age group to compete at inter-county level. It is never advisable to exclude , on-going developing players from teams and only going with Dev panels that have been together for a while . All Dev panels should be in a state of flux with potential candidates been brought in continuously to check fit .... my last post on the subject .. Gotta get the last word in

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 19/09/2014 09:00:28    1653683

Panel composition should be based on Skill and ability level , not on equivalency or population size , as Castle bravo is saying , with his system , if there's 150 , 000 of a population in the south of the country , and only 50,000 in the north , then 3 times the amount of players should be supplied by the south .... That should not be the case . the best players in the county should be on the panel . If all of them are from the south then so be it , if not then choose the best players in the county based on their ability , not geography or statistics etc. nuf said .

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 19/09/2014 09:09:14    1653687

Forget about the politics lads. Surely both O Shea and Morgan have looked at all the players in the last few years through development squads etc. And correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the clubs asked to send lads into these squads for trials at the start of the year so it does not matter where they are from. If they are good enough they stay no matter what club they are with.Anyway when is the appointment been made and who should be on the panel?

Forglory (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 19/09/2014 09:16:47    1653689

Interviews held last nite. And the new Manager is..............?

Forglory (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 19/09/2014 13:12:40    1653830

Panel composition should be based on Skill and ability level , not on equivalency or population size , as Castle bravo is saying , with his system , if there's 150 , 000 of a population in the south of the country , and only 50,000 in the north , then 3 times the amount of players should be supplied by the south .... That should not be the case . the best players in the county should be on the panel . If all of them are from the south then so be it , if not then choose the best players in the county based on their ability , not geography or statistics etc. nuf said .
can sum 1 please tell me wat castle lawn is talkin about - grammer is woeful!

royalass (Meath) - Posts: 89 - 20/09/2014 20:14:53    1654324

News heard in trim tonight. Morgan has Colm Coyle, Kieran Shankey & Niall Ronan for S&C. O'shea has Big Joe & his U17 back room including Paul Clarke for S&C. Experience V Youth.

Tones (Meath) - Posts: 17 - 21/09/2014 20:20:59    1654799

Looks like two decent management teams.Niall Ronan the Rugby player?

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 21/09/2014 20:33:09    1654827