Just wondering how many of the current Meath championship panel would hit 1-9 against the Dunboyne defence in our senior championship?

Auldfella (Meath) - Posts: 472 - 19/08/2014 17:25:01    1638973

Cian Ward has ALWAYS put in rare display like this,he had a lot of chances with Meath,and wasn't anywhere near to consistent

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 19/08/2014 18:01:06    1638992

Auldfella::there is not one forward on the meath panel that would score that against dunboyne,I was at that game and Cian was in terrific form,he is the most prolific and consistent performer in club football and without doubt should be on meath panel,micko has to bring him back for next year,it would be an absolute joke if he does'nt

bullet11 (Meath) - Posts: 52 - 19/08/2014 18:06:08    1638996

Has never been fit enough when with county

head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 19/08/2014 18:18:09    1639002

Surely he has to be brought back into panel. I mean is there not room for him on 30 man panel? It would seem ludicrous to say that he isn't in the top 30. Same would apply to queeny. You would have to wonder would he not have been ideal for bringing on in armagh game. ??
I'm all for change and youth, but this just seems to be cutting off your nose to spite your face.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/08/2014 18:38:28    1639011

Wouldn't be seen in the way the game has gone,not fit enough and has no work rate what's so ever. A very good club footballer but always has been inconsistent at county level. You ask how many current county players would score that in a club game,there's always been club players who scored heavily but couldn't do it at county level and visa versa players who would be average with club and excel at county level. Temperament is what it is all about and cian does not have it and unfortunately a lot of our current county players don't have it either

just.john (Meath) - Posts: 97 - 19/08/2014 19:05:33    1639024

best inside forward and finisher in meath,should be in panel but obviously reasons he is not,i would have him and jamie quenney ahead of joey wallace david bray brian mc mahon.

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1047 - 19/08/2014 19:58:20    1639046

Anyone with a half decent knowledge of Meath football would know that Cian ward should still be involved in the set up. Without doubt he is way better than a large number of players on the panel. He was always on his day a man who could produce the goods. I still remember the way he blasted louth out in Breffini park in July 2011. A nice person also, its a shame that MOD wont take him in.

rossie72 (Roscommon) - Posts: 63 - 19/08/2014 21:24:20    1639101

Can't believe some posters,just don't get it..

The lad John is spot on..

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 20/08/2014 09:36:48    1639152

For goodness sake we do not even have a reliable freetaker at the moment. How many close in frees did we miss in the 2014 championship? Talking to a very knowledgeable Dub after the Leinster final and he remarked that only two Meath players would get on the Dublin team, Keoghan and with a wry smile he added Cian Ward. Wards last game for Meath of any importance and if memory serves me right was against Sligo in the NFL at Navan in early 2013. The Meath management had Ward running around the half forward line that day. This is not his game. Best he be inside as the finisher of a move.Like the 4-3 he got against Louth in Breffni Park in 2011. Ward shot 1-4 against the Dubs in that famous win back in 2010. In 2011 he kicked 0-8 against Kildare in the championship at Navan. Go back to those two games against Dublin in 2007. It was Wards exceptional free taking that got us a draw the first day. This is not only my opinion but I know of many more who are dumb founded by Wards non inclusion. Look I know things happen behind the scenes that we are not privy to but all hatchets should be buried in the Cian Ward case. Micko should take a trip out to Oristown and get matters sorted.

Auldfella (Meath) - Posts: 472 - 20/08/2014 11:07:35    1639206

Couple of points here, Cian is an outstanding footballer when he's in the mood, trouble is at IC level you didn't know which Cian was going to show up. If he was to be played again it would have to be in the inside forwards, not suited out the field at all. It's up to MOD to decide if he fits the bill and it's up to Cian to decide to put the work in. When thinking of Cian, it brings to mind Niall Kelly from Dunshaughlin who was an outstanding club player and leader, but who never cut the mustard when Boylan was in charge at IC level.

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 484 - 20/08/2014 12:11:20    1639259

All inter county players have poor performances. Biggy this year was indifferent but has the ability to change games when on form. Ward is the same-class act when on form.I don't think this discussion is dealing with the real issue. Were these older players that were dropped not buying in to the new regime, was there personality clashes or undermining of management going on. I think this is the more likely scenario.

Poormouth (Meath) - Posts: 204 - 20/08/2014 12:34:27    1639271

Poormouth
County: Meath
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All inter county players have poor performances. Biggy this year was indifferent but has the ability to change games when on form. Ward is the same-class act when on form.I don't think this discussion is dealing with the real issue. Were these older players that were dropped not buying in to the new regime, was there personality clashes or undermining of management going on. I think this is the more likely scenario.

Where or what is your proof for this "likely scenario"

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 20/08/2014 12:39:02    1639278

Poormouth
County: Meath
Posts: 105

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All inter county players have poor performances. Biggy this year was indifferent but has the ability to change games when on form. Ward is the same-class act when on form.I don't think this discussion is dealing with the real issue. Were these older players that were dropped not buying in to the new regime, was there personality clashes or undermining of management going on. I think this is the more likely scenario.

Where or what is your proof for this "likely scenario"

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 20/08/2014 12:39:39    1639280

Some posts here about Cian are bordering on ridiculous. Think it's a case of absence makes the heart grow fonder.
I was/am a great admirer of Cian's, but people acting as if he's the answer to all our problems are ridiculous. On his day, he's a fantastic player. Unfortunately, that day comes around far too seldom. He was unmarkable against Louth in 2011, and may as well have been on the bench for the following game against Galway that was how awful he was.
For what it's worth, I do think he should be on next season's panel. But I don't think he'll be a starter, nor should he be. The younger players will only get better and giving them big game experience now is more important than starting a player who has always been far too inconsistent in his intercounty career to warrant a starting place at this stage.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 20/08/2014 12:50:54    1639291

The problem we have with most of the current crop of players on the team is inconsistency with some of them poor all year. Most good players have very few poor games, they may have games where they are not the best players on the field. There has to be more players playing club games who are more consistent than some of what is being played and, you do need some older players on the team to give balance. Ward would be better than some of the players that we have on the team whether that is the long term solution is another matter. I do also agree that in the present game you need all players working when the team does not have the ball and that means tracking back.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 20/08/2014 12:58:42    1639301

I think the issue with Cian Ward was that he was told that he would only be a Sub and not guarnateed a starting place and he wasn't willing to Fight for his place. If that is his attitude then we don't want or need him

chriscart580 (Meath) - Posts: 376 - 20/08/2014 14:14:26    1639346

Chris

That is exactly the issue,he is not committed enough and the majority of people would have said this when he was on the panel.Frankly,I don't think he cares whether he is on the panel or not.
Lets move on...

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 20/08/2014 18:22:59    1639555

Ziggy honest question. Is he in the top 30 players in the county? I mean surely managements job is to seek out the best players in the county and try them out. Now maybe in the past he has had shockers and we all agree on that. But Stephen Bray was the worst player during league and came good in champ. So surely there is room if the talent is there. Do you not agree? Brian Meade was in similar position to cian with many calling for him to be dropped a couple of years ago. Now many see him as a ideal midfielder . It should be on recent form. Nothing more nothing less.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/08/2014 20:26:53    1639637

Ward needs a dose of whatever seamus kenny was on before he gets near a meath jersey again.

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 20/08/2014 21:30:24    1639669