I was at the st brigids v moylagh match in millbrook last night, surprised by the standard, exciting match from 2 committed teams and a good advertisement for junior football. However about 20 minutes into the second half there was a player from both sides sent off with red cards for an off the ball scuffle. When the play resumed st brigids ran in an extra player apparently without producing a slip to the officials and unknown to them and without a player coming off which gave them an extra man. Approximately 6-7 minutes passed when it was pointed out to the ref add as he made a head count the player in question skulked off the other end of the field. St brigids ran out winners by a point. Does this incident bring the result to question as the extra man was involved in the move that led to what turned out to be the winning score? Anyone got insight into the rules on this?

bluegossun (Meath) - Posts: 70 - 12/04/2014 19:43:02    1574303

if thats what happened Brigids broke the rules and should forfeit the match. it wasnt a black card so they werent supposed to bring on a sub for a red card!

blackcard (Meath) - Posts: 9 - 12/04/2014 20:18:25    1574315

Ye I was at that game, that's pretty much the way it happened I think the referee made a note of it at the time. Didn't see what led to the sendings off but it was well reffed player incursion aside. Possible grounds for a moylough appeal

pim (Meath) - Posts: 119 - 12/04/2014 21:53:40    1574346

Was at the match and it was a cracking North Meath derby played in the right spirit, both teams gave it 100%. The incident occurred late in the match when 2 players were shown red for what looked like a fairly harmless altercation, St. Bridgits must of assumed that the card was black and slipped in a sub immediately without notifying the referee with a slip of paper.

Moylagh copped it was a red card and not a black and obviously didn't bring on a replacement, the game continued for 4-5 minutes with St. Bridgits playing with 15 men against 14 in which time the sub they mistakenly brought on got fouled for a free which was pointed for what turned out to be the winning point...at this stage the Moylagh officials got the refs attention and notified him that St. Bridgits had an extra man on the field, the player then left the field at the end line and returned to the subs bench!

On the face of it, it looked like a genuine mistake but St. Bridgits didn't help their case by running in a sub without notifying the ref... something which is against all the rules, for that reason I don't think there will be a happy ending for St. Bridgits but it will be interesting to see how the Co. Board play this one out.

Thunderstruck (Meath) - Posts: 467 - 14/04/2014 21:46:46    1575275

Was at the match, which was way better than last years offering between these teams. If the ref includes it in his report, I believe Bridgits will have to forfeit and could get worse for them. Not sure but they could get disqualified from the competition entirely, depending on how the board see it.

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 484 - 16/04/2014 11:06:33    1575861

Anyone know when the meeting is about the incident is? I believe moylagh also put on a replacement but took him off when they were made aware it was a red and not a black card and then brought the extra man to the referee's attention. Was a bad mistake but only people in one corner of the field saw the red card as the referee didn't take the card out of his wallet and looked like a black card from the dugout side.

northwest (Meath) - Posts: 107 - 16/04/2014 11:47:14    1575894

Anyone know when the meeting is about the incident is? I believe moylagh also put on a replacement but took him off when they were made aware it was a red and not a black card and then brought the extra man to the referee's attention. Was a bad mistake but only people in one corner of the field saw the red card as the referee didn't take the card out of his wallet and looked like a black card from the dugout side.

northwest (Meath) - Posts: 107 - 16/04/2014 11:47:50    1575895

Gaa rulebook is not specific / clear : http://www.gaa.ie/content/documents...

Under 1.2 "Duties of the Referee" rule x is (c) To order off a player who commits an ordering off foul/infraction by taking his
name (if not already taken) and showing him a red card.

Doesnt say anything about an unwarranted player coming in

RoyalSt.Pat (Meath) - Posts: 333 - 16/04/2014 15:42:42    1576022

^ part 2.4 (iv) and (v) show that the rules are very clear if read correctly

green99 (Meath) - Posts: 9 - 16/04/2014 18:01:56    1576094

Hearing that the match will be replayed this weekend?

Toney (Meath) - Posts: 298 - 23/04/2014 15:27:44    1579109

Don't think it's this weekend,the brigids are down to play bective in pt..

bullet11 (Meath) - Posts: 52 - 23/04/2014 17:51:41    1579210

Its the linesman job to watch it so there should be no blame put towards the team, if the official was doing his job this would have not happened.

Who5 (Meath) - Posts: 1 - 24/04/2014 09:59:02    1579336

I have to disagree with you there and say that i think the co board copped out with their punishment. Now I have no allegiance to either team but the more you look at it it's clear that in my opinion it was an opportunist act to gain advantage. Look at the facts, everyone else at the match knew it was a straight red to both players, the player sent off was a corner back yet it was a corner forward put on at the other end of the field to the action and without a break in play as the rules state, without presenting a slip to the referee as the rules state, the player in question was secretary of the club until recently so would have known the rules regarding substitutions and that a slip must always be presented to the referee, the linesman has no role to play here and was probably following the play, and as the referee performed a head count one side of the field the player departed off behind the goals at the other end, if he was being withdrawn for a genuine mistake why would he do this??? I think a replay was the very best st brigids could have hoped for and are lucky to have the chance as they are clearly the stronger team and will probably win the replay, so in effect escape unsanctioned.

bluegossun (Meath) - Posts: 70 - 24/04/2014 10:53:25    1579359

I can't understand how a replay could be ordered. If they played with an extra man, then surely they have to lose the game. I seem to remember O'Mahonys being kicked out of the Senior Championship a few years ago for bringing on 1 sub too many, with the game virtually over, and that lad hardly felt the weight of the ball. This is a more serious offence as the extra man materially affected the game, and yet they will replay the game? Where is the consistency in that?

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 24/04/2014 19:35:49    1579653

Is it definiatly a reply? If so it is very unfair on moylagh given the circumstances and bridgets getting off very lightly!

EveryPointCount (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 24/04/2014 20:04:43    1579660

Looking at the table of this group with one round left and it looks like the disgraceful decision to allow st brigids a replay may have decided who comes out of this group, moylagh facing an uphill battle against an in form Meath hill team to have any chance of going through whereas they would be through already if the co board had done their job, st brigids might not even need a result against a depleted simonstown second string. Doesn't seem right

bluegossun (Meath) - Posts: 70 - 10/08/2014 13:33:14    1634261

Bluegosson

This group still seems wide open with great opportunities for all teams. Brigid's if anything seem to be a rising force in the junior ranks with a number of talented footballers. Moylough had a 2nd chance in the replay but couldn't take it. Also lost out to simonstown so with one game to play dont see the reason to be making excuses before a deciding match is to be played.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 506 - 10/08/2014 14:27:56    1634292

Not making excuses as I'm not from there, i am local to both, I was at both games however and yes brigids are a rising force and that's why it's more unfair. In sport, the underdog usually has one real chance ie garrycastle v crossmaglen or galway v kilkenny etc, nearly doing it the first day then well beaten in replays. I really feel moylagh were robbed the first day after matching a strong st brigids team and then the way the game played out... we all know about that now. Now I agree moylagh failed to take the game the second chance and were actually the better team in the first half and ahead at half time but st brigids showed their strength in depth in the second half to run out easy winners. My point is that there should not have been a replay if the rules were applied by the county board, the facts are there for all and I think moylagh are a quiet club not to have appealed, especially with the precedent the co board set previously with o mahonys and dunboyne which was a much lesser infraction! You mention moylagh losing to simonstown, shouldnt come into this argument, i wasn't at that match, yes they lost I believe they kicked it away but that's a whole different story, that result sits with its own merit in the group. I hope for moylaghs sake that they get a result against Meath hill as they are an honest group who try hard with small resources. They'll have it difficult though.

bluegossun (Meath) - Posts: 70 - 10/08/2014 15:17:09    1634320

Brigids held up there hands and said they were in the wrong, BOTH clubs agreed to a replay. Also I haven't spoke to one moylagh person who is upset about it. So maybe you should move on and worry about your own club Oldcastle who haven't won a competitive match all season, plus a 15 point defeat to the brigids in the Ray Heery cup. Bitter maybe.

northwest (Meath) - Posts: 107 - 10/08/2014 19:23:47    1634510