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Meath Hurlers V Westmeath

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Big match on Sunday Week, we all need to travel to Mullingar to support the team, This team needs our support. This is Meath hurlers bigest match in years, a head to head fight to stay in Leinster for 2018 championship and if Laois win in Kerry and Meath win in Mullingar both go into leinster quarter final. The biggest prize for this team is to stay in leinster, win or draw Meath achieve this objective.
The management will surely make changes to the starting 15. Healy has got to be fit for this match, he is vital to our success in Mullingar.
What is the training schedule this week , would love to go and watch them training.
It was great to see the players taking time to sign autographs for the young kids after the match , after such a defeat these boys still had the dignity and manners to do the right thing.

gardentree (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 02/05/2017 15:28:44    1983975

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Replying To gardentree:  "Big match on Sunday Week, we all need to travel to Mullingar to support the team, This team needs our support. This is Meath hurlers bigest match in years, a head to head fight to stay in Leinster for 2018 championship and if Laois win in Kerry and Meath win in Mullingar both go into leinster quarter final. The biggest prize for this team is to stay in leinster, win or draw Meath achieve this objective.
The management will surely make changes to the starting 15. Healy has got to be fit for this match, he is vital to our success in Mullingar.
What is the training schedule this week , would love to go and watch them training.
It was great to see the players taking time to sign autographs for the young kids after the match , after such a defeat these boys still had the dignity and manners to do the right thing."
Big match alright and it will come down to who wants it more....thought nothing went well for them Sunday. To beat laois would have been a big ask but it should have been closer they are better than that so let's hope it's out of their system now. You'd have to start Heffernan and Keena they've made big impacts when brought on. Some of our bigger names were quiet the last 2 matches. I hope people get out and support them they are a great bunch of young lads.

billyjack24 (Meath) - Posts: 40 - 02/05/2017 19:31:47    1984048

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I know they're out tonight anyway after that I'm not sure

billyjack24 (Meath) - Posts: 40 - 02/05/2017 19:32:18    1984049

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Replying To billyjack24:  "I know they're out tonight anyway after that I'm not sure"
Went Out To Dunganny at 7:30pm no hurlers training , when they training

gardentree (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 02/05/2017 23:00:03    1984086

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I'd Go with Heffernan at full forward just for his goal threat. Goals win games

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 03/05/2017 09:03:38    1984113

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i would go with McGown,Heffernan and Sullivan inside and leave them inside to use their pace on tghe westmeath full back line. Gannon, Joey Keena and Clynch in half forward line , joey at 11 . Ennins and his selectors have a hard job to get the team right.
When they training does anybody know ?

gardentree (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 03/05/2017 13:22:12    1984214

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Replying To gardentree:  "i would go with McGown,Heffernan and Sullivan inside and leave them inside to use their pace on tghe westmeath full back line. Gannon, Joey Keena and Clynch in half forward line , joey at 11 . Ennins and his selectors have a hard job to get the team right.
When they training does anybody know ?"
They've been training on Tuesday and Friday nights in the week before the two previous games and training on Tuesdays has been in Navan. I'm not sure about the other night. Would have thought they would be back in Dunganny as the home games are finished.

Royalace (Meath) - Posts: 121 - 03/05/2017 15:43:24    1984260

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Westmeath V Meath will be some match, Loser back in Christy

gardentree (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 04/05/2017 09:01:12    1984362

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Replying To gardentree:  "Westmeath V Meath will be some match, Loser back in Christy"
Apologies for taking the thread a little off topic, but I think that the GAA and the Leinster Council need to look again at the structures of these competitions. Carlow have made big improvements in hurling over the past few years, and they would be better off still playing in the Leinster Championship this year. Likewise, it is not going to benefit hurling in either Meath or Westmeath to drop back into the Christy Ring next year.

Given how early the round robin in Leinster is finished, why cant they start they play the round robin, the winners progress to the Leinster Championship proper, and the rest drop down and play in the Christy Ring, which could start in the middle of May, and give counties hurling during the summer months. Allow Carlow, Westmeath and Meath to play in the Leinster Championship every year. Kildare and Wicklow too if they wish. That's how standards will improve. Instead one of Meath or Westmeath will drop out of their own Leinster championship to play at a lower grade, while Kerry keep their place. Doesn't make sense to me.

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 04/05/2017 09:44:34    1984380

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Replying To gardentree:  "Westmeath V Meath will be some match, Loser back in Christy"
How do you figure that? Surely Kerry are in that mix too if they lose to Laois

TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 229 - 04/05/2017 09:56:12    1984386

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Replying To TakeYourPoints6:  "How do you figure that? Surely Kerry are in that mix too if they lose to Laois"
It's going to be tight, but if Meath lose there is a good chance we will go down. I can't see Kerry losing to Laois by as much as we did. As it stands the table is:

LAOIS 2 2 0 0 4-48 (60) 4-30 (42) +18 4
KERRY 2 1 0 1 2-37 (43) 5-32 (47) - 4 2
MEATH 2 1 0 1 5-33 (48) 5-42 (57) - 9 2
WMth 2 0 0 2 4-29 (41) 1-43 (46) - 5 0

In saying that, a draw or better will see us through, provided Laois draw with or beat Kerry. Going to be an interesting day.

hurlingroyals (Meath) - Posts: 45 - 04/05/2017 10:24:18    1984395

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Replying To anfearbeag:  "Apologies for taking the thread a little off topic, but I think that the GAA and the Leinster Council need to look again at the structures of these competitions. Carlow have made big improvements in hurling over the past few years, and they would be better off still playing in the Leinster Championship this year. Likewise, it is not going to benefit hurling in either Meath or Westmeath to drop back into the Christy Ring next year.

Given how early the round robin in Leinster is finished, why cant they start they play the round robin, the winners progress to the Leinster Championship proper, and the rest drop down and play in the Christy Ring, which could start in the middle of May, and give counties hurling during the summer months. Allow Carlow, Westmeath and Meath to play in the Leinster Championship every year. Kildare and Wicklow too if they wish. That's how standards will improve. Instead one of Meath or Westmeath will drop out of their own Leinster championship to play at a lower grade, while Kerry keep their place. Doesn't make sense to me."
that was the structure before similar without the round robin and it did nothing for the development of hurling. the structure is grand the way it is at the moment in my opinion

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 04/05/2017 10:31:27    1984396

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Replying To gardentree:  "Westmeath V Meath will be some match, Loser back in Christy"
score difference will come into it so depending on the results of the games if meath lose, cant see kerry beating laois after their performance last week tbh

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 04/05/2017 10:32:35    1984397

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The worry is that Laois may play some of their reserves in the last game. Only a massive Laois loss coupled with a massive win for us against Westmeath would see Laois not make the quarter finals. As a result, they're likely to rest at least some of their key players.
We just have to focus on our task and get something from Westmeath. Survival is the number 1 aim. If we make the next round, then even better.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 04/05/2017 11:03:22    1984416

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Down the line this Round Robin crack will be done away with, you will have the Munster Championship and the Leinster Championship 5 teams in each and so 10 teams that may have a chance to win Liam McCarthty competing, the big 5 in Munster plus Kilkenny, Wexford, Dublin, Galway and Offaly.
Champions League style Provincial Championships with the top 4 into All Ireland Quarter Finals and bottom 2 into relegation with loser relegated to Ring Cup and Ring Cup winners coming up each year.
With Football having a Super 8 this Super type Championship for Hurling will come in but the GAA will want the Provincial Championships entact in some shape or form.

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 04/05/2017 12:02:31    1984431

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "The worry is that Laois may play some of their reserves in the last game. Only a massive Laois loss coupled with a massive win for us against Westmeath would see Laois not make the quarter finals. As a result, they're likely to rest at least some of their key players.
We just have to focus on our task and get something from Westmeath. Survival is the number 1 aim. If we make the next round, then even better."
Yeah you right Kerry would have to win by 12 and Meath by 16 to knock Laois out.
I can see the Kerry Laois game being close but a win for Meath will put us in

glenny (Meath) - Posts: 1108 - 04/05/2017 12:11:44    1984436

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These things come in cycles. In 2001 Leinster opened up the championship to all counties who wanted it. It did nobody any good since the likes of Meath, Westmeath, Carlow, Kildare etc. all had good close games vs. each other before getting tanked by Laois. Meath beat Laois by a point in 2002 but it was more of an exception to the rule, and they didn't really build on it.

In 2005 they started the Christy Ring. For the first few years promotion was random: automatic some years, a playoff other years, and no promotion at all other years. From 2009 onwards promotion became automatic, with Carlow, Westmeath, London all going up in quick succession. This diluted the senior championship and again simply resulted in the weak teams playing each other first before losing badly to a bigger team. Carlow beat Laois by a point in 2010 (notice a pattern?!), but again that's the exception to the rule. Carlow didn't really build on it and it was their only win in Liam MacCarthy hurling before they introduced the qualifier group.

Then in 2013 they brought in the qualifier group and automatic relegation. This shored up the championship a bit by removing a team and gave the Christy Ring winners a realistic target for the following year. The Christy Ring standard improved as well, with Antrim and Meath serving up some unbelievable hurling last year.

But yet again people just want to abandon any sort of merit based system and give everyone a shot at Leinster. If it didn't work 50 years ago, didn't work 15 years ago, and didn't work 5 years ago. How will it suddenly start working now?

All that said, ask me again Saturday week how I feel about relegation if Meath lose to Westmeath, I might change tack...

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 04/05/2017 13:25:15    1984451

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Replying To glenny:  "Yeah you right Kerry would have to win by 12 and Meath by 16 to knock Laois out.
I can see the Kerry Laois game being close but a win for Meath will put us in"
Meath should easily beat Westmeath by 16 pts.

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 05/05/2017 12:52:14    1984674

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Next Sunday Mullingar at 3pm is the place that every Meath hurling person should be. Huge buzz in Mullingar this week about this match it huge news down in westmeath. They realy want to put meath back down to CR

gardentree (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 07/05/2017 17:34:15    1984994

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Will Ennis and his management team make changes for Sundays match against Mullingar ?
I would say they have to after the preformanrece against Laois the team in my opinion needs some freshening up.

I would Go with
McGann
Geraghty
Brennan
Reilly
Whitty
Kelly
Keogan
Healy
Forde
Gannon
J Keena
Clynch
Sullivan
McGowan
K Keena

What you think

gardentree (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 09/05/2017 21:51:39    1985554

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