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Ratoath Royal , going back Meath had Brian Stafford , and after a while we starting saying that we could put our houses on him scoring . But before he got to that level he had to be trained , and he got training a lot of it . Are our guys getting the training required to become a proficient Free ( score) takers , I'm not so sure , on any given day numerous players could be taken the frees , Lenihan , Biggy , Tobin , Toher , maybe its time that the focus on free taking is placed on the shoulders of 1 or 2 players and that they are trained to be accurate .... Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 05/07/2017 14:35:45 2011002 Link 0 |
Forgot about Conlan he starts for sure
grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 05/07/2017 15:17:28 2011027 Link 7 |
That's a very valid point The Last day, Tobin started on frees, Toher came on and took one, even though Tobin was still there. Then it switched to Lenihan for two and then to Newman & I even think there could be another one used aswell. Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6342 - 05/07/2017 15:26:47 2011033 Link 0 |
Lads if we were in meath management shoes how would(we) set up to beat Donegal.tactics,players etc. Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 05/07/2017 15:29:39 2011035 Link 0 |
One thing going into this game a lot of Meath players are just not playing well COS Lenihan Biggie, Keoghan Haran these players can play alot better than they have so in the championship. l think if we could get these boys playing well. We could win it. It would actually disappointing if we went down with not playing to our full potential regardless of opposition. We are no world beaters but we are alot better than we has gone on it the championship so far I reckon. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 05/07/2017 16:15:15 2011056 Link 0 |
Good post, we have traveled a similar path, first match was late 50s in PT think it was against Louth. The period that means most to me was the mid eighties to late 90s, lived in Cork and was heavily involved in local GAA at the time and of course they were our biggest rivals then. They hated the very mention of Meath, loved every minute of it, especiall getting my two young lads to wear their Meath jerseys going to training. McEntee simply does not have that quality of player available to him at present, hopefully he will stay on and try to build a team to be feared once again.
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2136 - 05/07/2017 17:13:09 2011083 Link 10 |
Id be expecting same, absolutely, but i want to see the others step it up too. I'm confident they all will. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/07/2017 19:29:01 2011137 Link 0 |
Honestly? We will have to mirror Donegal, 15 behind ball , breaking at pace with runners off the shoulder . Defend like men possessed when we dont have the ball. Frees will be extremely vital , 90% of those 45 line in MUST be converted.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/07/2017 19:38:09 2011142 Link 0 |
I would agree RD. Two problems with that though, we didn't look dangerous at all on the counter attack against Sligo and for me on Saturday we had a lot of men behind the ball but it seemed to that some players didn't know what there job was, just standing there won't be good enough against Donegal.
Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 05/07/2017 19:48:48 2011146 Link 10 |
would agree with all of this. i would fear that we may give donegal too much respect though. go with the same system,but we need to move the ball much faster than we did the last day. tackle a bit faster and harder too. just worry that we seem to have too many lads off form. you would still think donegal should win here.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 05/07/2017 20:37:14 2011187 Link 3 |
ya agree with that too
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 05/07/2017 20:37:59 2011188 Link 5 |
I dont know. Even taking off the green and gold glasses I think its 50/50. Now look you are 100% right that the system needs to be improved significantly on Saturday, but we have the runners and the ability to do exactly that. I do think navan will help, and I am slightly optimistic, only slightly, but hey. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/07/2017 21:47:32 2011229 Link 1 |
i have not seen much of Donegal this year, but reading some comments from their posters on the main thread it would seem there is not a lot of confidence behind them so it looks like two teams struggling to find some form. ROYALOPTIMIST (Meath) - Posts: 179 - 05/07/2017 22:23:26 2011249 Link 1 |
LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 452 - 06/07/2017 06:24:45 2011280 Link 0 |
Regarding Donnacha Tobin I think he can find himself rather unlucky to be benched as he can offer this team a lot around the half back line middle third area. He did get a roasting at corner back against Louth and Kildare in the corner but he is not a corner back. He has been one of Meath's most consistent performers in the past 4 years. We will need his physicality against a big Donegal side. On the match up side of things I would expect Keogan to pick up Paddy McBrearty, Menton to mark Michael Murphy (Menton got man of the match in a sigerson cup final a couple of years ago after man marking Michael Murphy, he was full forward that day) BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 932 - 06/07/2017 07:22:15 2011290 Link 0 |
Would have preferred the game to be an early throw in. For some reason we were completely flat in two evening fixtures this year (Down in the league, and Kildare in championship). bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 06/07/2017 07:53:20 2011304 Link 1 |
Replying to Reco.............Yes i agree throw off the shackles. I say free ourselves from FEAR. O ver emphasis on systems at this point in the season is too limiting.... Donegal will be defensive end of. Up to now we are mentally fragile....We accept we are victims....they are too defensive.....our top players will be smothered etc..........always some excuse. I 100% agree with you go for it. We take charge.We believe we can win no question.. We have to make it happen as opposed to our mental state of something always happens to us to prevent us. Then HOW can we make it happen ? counter attacking stategy up to now proves my point.....too slow....FEAR too negative .we make it up to midfield then TOO MUCH lateral passing FEAR. no support for the runner...FEAR god i think i should stay back there...Dont shoot from 40 or 50 yards out if its feasable FEAR i might miss. Most importantly forwards not using open space to make themselves available even FEAR maybe i should be marking the defender etc etc. FEAR DOMINATES OUR PLAY UP TO NOW. Why god only knows. We have to believe we can do the job. Donegal have their own problems and are no world beaters either.We have the runners.We have men that can score. f... the FEAR. We have the man markers in defence for their POTENTIALLY dangerous forwards. Even that word potentially makes a difference to mental state. Dangerous if you give them too much room .We take charge here again. We are not victims just because they may have good players......To help us theiy may play too deep anyway .PRIDE...We are MEATH f... the underdog tag We relish the challenge. We love wearing the jersey like all the great men before us. Football is part of our DNA FINALLY .....Go for it lads ..... you have nothing to fear but fear itself !!!!
nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1211 - 06/07/2017 08:39:33 2011330 Link 1 |
Not sure just heard Andy speaking after the game and he wasn't to concerned at the time. So it doesn't seems to serious not sure though.
bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 06/07/2017 13:04:24 2011472 Link 0 |
Yeah we a going aim for 6am start, them Donegal lads won't know what hit them.
bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 06/07/2017 13:07:52 2011477 Link 0 |
I totally agree with having pride etc. But modern football can be a lot be about tactics and systems You need a system, but you also need to adapt to others team especially when you are weaker team. Donegal had move away from the totally defensive stuff they started out with 2010/11. Also Dublin where exposed badly at the back in 2014 against Donegal and had to change there system to a more defensive one. So teams adapt all the time. We got destroyed at the back by Kildare so we are naturally going to try to prevent this. I dont think its time throwing any shackles of. If we are down 6 points a half time then yeah got for it by all means.
bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 06/07/2017 13:22:33 2011491 Link 0 |