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Methinks that if it was a game against Boardsmill or Blackhall with the loser entering a relegation playoff, Dunderry would have been well able to field a competitive team. They obviously targeted the Boardsmill and Blackhall games and not even tried in the other 2 games they played so far (29 and 47 point losses). Fair play to them for that but to not even field a team in their last game is not on. Blackhall need to better Boardsmill's result tonight by 5 to stay out of a relegation playoff. What's to stop them from giving a walkover tonight meaning that score difference can't be used to separate the sides? I think oldsam's suggestion is a good one but unfortunately I doubt if this will be possible and can see them getting away with it (bar a small fine). Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 21/08/2017 16:42:20 2036118 Link
Replying To Royalz4Sam: "Yeah we see articles with some ould lad that comes in and saves the day.. It's always in JHC but even taking that in to account, it's a lot easier to find one than about 3 or 4. Believe what you want, but the fact is that we've been trying all we could to get a team together but in the last 5 days alone we've had 3 people drop out between injuries and bereavement. That's on top of the 1 suspension and 3 injuries suffered on or since the day we played BHG that we'd known about before last week . As I mentioned before, we were very shook for numbers against BHG as it was and we don't have the luxury of picking lads out of nowhere. We accept that it looks very bad and we never wanted this (as players anyway) but some things can't be helped unfortunately." huge lack of respect to kiltale also a days notice leaves no time for challenge match to be sorted not forgetting the 20 players on the panel who im sure could have made use of their weeknd instead of sitting around waiting for a game dunderry took the easy option hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 415 - 21/08/2017 16:43:02 2036119 Link
Replying To Ratoath Royal: "Methinks that if it was a game against Boardsmill or Blackhall with the loser entering a relegation playoff, Dunderry would have been well able to field a competitive team. They obviously targeted the Boardsmill and Blackhall games and not even tried in the other 2 games they played so far (29 and 47 point losses). Fair play to them for that but to not even field a team in their last game is not on. Blackhall need to better Boardsmill's result tonight by 5 to stay out of a relegation playoff. What's to stop them from giving a walkover tonight meaning that score difference can't be used to separate the sides? I think oldsam's suggestion is a good one but unfortunately I doubt if this will be possible and can see them getting away with it (bar a small fine)." But unlike BHG and Boardsmill, Dunderry are completely safe. Regardless of tonight's results, Dunderry were going to finish 4th in the group while Kiltale were going to finish 1st. It had no bearing on how either team would finish in the group so comparing this game to Boardsmill and BHG's situation going into the last game is completely ignorant. And I don't know how many times it has to be repeated but "DUNDERRY DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH TO FIELD TONIGHT"! They had just enough for a team until Saturday when two players confirmed they couldn't play due to injury and a bereavement occurred in one other players family down the country which made him unavailable. If any other club was in the same situation, it would have been the exact same outcome! MorePower (USA) - Posts: 4 - 21/08/2017 17:02:24 2036122 Link
Replying To hurlit: "huge lack of respect to kiltale also a days notice leaves no time for challenge match to be sorted not forgetting the 20 players on the panel who im sure could have made use of their weeknd instead of sitting around waiting for a game dunderry took the easy option" Bit of a witch hunt this. We're not psychic lads, we're not taking the easy road and we're not proud of the fact that we genuinely can't get the numbers tonight but some things are just out of our control. Royalz4Sam (Meath) - Posts: 18 - 21/08/2017 17:07:11 2036124 Link
The management and players of Dunderry are proud and straight up people. Up until Sat evening they had 16 players then because of a brevement in a players family and injury too another player they couldn't field a 15. This decision wasn't taken easy so all the snipers that are having a dig at true honest people lay off. blowin27 (Meath) - Posts: 32 - 21/08/2017 18:55:01 2036152 Link
Ratoath beat Trim, Trim are out, Ratoath into the quarter, Dunboyne into the semi. Some result and good to see new blood in the hurling LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1454 - 21/08/2017 20:30:18 2036171 Link
That was a belter of a game, both teams gave it their all. The penalty save seemed to give Ratoath that extra incentive and that's when the game seemed to really change. B52M (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 21/08/2017 21:16:11 2036186 Link
Get in!!! Without the likes of McMahon and Gavin McGowan makes it even more impressive. I remember someone confidently stating before last year's intermediate final that neither team would even be able to get a win in senior. Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 21/08/2017 21:24:19 2036188 Link
Replying To Ratoath Royal: "Get in!!! Without the likes of McMahon and Gavin McGowan makes it even more impressive. I remember someone confidently stating before last year's intermediate final that neither team would even be able to get a win in senior." You have a long memory! All i remember is people being full of praise and saying that Ratoath bring a breath of fresh air to the SHC. oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 21/08/2017 21:52:34 2036201 Link
As the poster above says, if this game had any bearing on their Senior status I have no doubt Dundreary would have fielded a team tonight. I don't think they should be relegated for failing to field but they should be going in to next year's SHC with a fifty point score deficit, which is probably the losing margin they were looking at tonight, even with a full squad. Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 21/08/2017 22:58:09 2036223 Link
Great result for Ratoath and for club hurling in Meath. Will be a force to be reckoned with if they can get McGowan back. Kildalkey and Dunboyne between them and a final, no reason why they couldn't make it. Contrary to RatoathRoyal i believe i stated on here that Ratoath would be more than able to compete in senior after seeing them in Intermediate final last year. Trim a victim of their own hype, too slow all over the field. For such a young team the majority of them are very unfit. The Dunderry situation is a bit of a storm in a tea cup. Hopefully championship reform next year will eliminate meaningless games like we had over the weekend. begining (UK) - Posts: 300 - 22/08/2017 09:16:34 2036278 Link
Replying To begining: "Great result for Ratoath and for club hurling in Meath. Will be a force to be reckoned with if they can get McGowan back. Kildalkey and Dunboyne between them and a final, no reason why they couldn't make it. Contrary to RatoathRoyal i believe i stated on here that Ratoath would be more than able to compete in senior after seeing them in Intermediate final last year. Trim a victim of their own hype, too slow all over the field. For such a young team the majority of them are very unfit. The Dunderry situation is a bit of a storm in a tea cup. Hopefully championship reform next year will eliminate meaningless games like we had over the weekend." How will reform next year do away with 'meaningless' games...? What will it do about teams that have no interest in actually competing at senior level and just give up once they've done enough to retain their status as Senior? The truth is the SHC needs to shed at least four clubs that are really only intermediate standard, there's no point in being in it if you're afraid to field against the top clubs especially when there's no sanction for so doing. Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 22/08/2017 10:25:36 2036299 Link
Replying To Wedgie: "How will reform next year do away with 'meaningless' games...? What will it do about teams that have no interest in actually competing at senior level and just give up once they've done enough to retain their status as Senior? The truth is the SHC needs to shed at least four clubs that are really only intermediate standard, there's no point in being in it if you're afraid to field against the top clubs especially when there's no sanction for so doing." I have to agree, reform is so badly needed, we have 20 hurling clubs in the county and 12 of them play the top grade. Doesnt make sense, Ratoath are no real surprise in terms of qualifying, they will improve by retaining their status and will grow in the senior status. Dont see them going beyond the qtr final. Hurling clubs need to push for change. StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 22/08/2017 11:07:00 2036316 Link
Good to see the Ratoath result last night. It will be good for hurling in the county. It goes to show that a lot of good work done at juvenile level eventually will come through. 3feetoftimber (Meath) - Posts: 113 - 22/08/2017 12:08:24 2036344 Link
I think it's a sad reflection on the state of senior hurling in the county. Just when it looks like hurling is on the up something like this happens and undermines it. I can't believe that Dunderry don't have 15 players to play this game, I'd say they re just boxing clever here and making sure they don't get any injuries for the football. hootervillian (Meath) - Posts: 308 - 22/08/2017 14:44:44 2036416 Link
Was at game in navan last night. Trim were not as hungry as Ratoath plain and simple. If I were Kildalkey I would be extremely worried particularly with mcgowan back. Ratoath are young and fit. Going to be a close one, wouldn't be suprised if Ratoath shaded it, they have the momentum and no fear. Dunboyne will fancy there chances of getting to a county final no matter who they play but neither Ratoath or Kildalkey will fear them. Small edge to Dunboyne as they are a different outfit now Gorry has left them. Another hard quarter final to call between Kilmessan and Killyon, purely based on forwards i think Kilmessan will win, even though Killyon have racked up high scores this year too. It will be a great game. Who ever wins will be given no chance v Kiltale and it really is Kiltale's championship to lose. overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 22/08/2017 16:10:11 2036448 Link
I called it after Ratoath played Clann na gael that ratoath would win, that was without Mcgowan,Mcmahon and 2 o Hanrahan's! Quarter finals will be 2 great games Kilmessan v Killyon will be a dog fight, where Ratoath v Kildalkey will be a mix looking forward to seeing both!! Whoever wins semi final will be as far as they go!! Dunboyne v Kiltale final 36inchash (Dublin) - Posts: 20 - 23/08/2017 22:46:22 2036966 Link
So what everyone's predictions this weekend for the quarter finals? Exciting double header on Saturday!! 36inchash (Dublin) - Posts: 20 - 31/08/2017 16:20:43 2041240 Link
Kilyon and Ratoath winners in QFinals. See how they come out of these games ALLGAA32 (Meath) - Posts: 64 - 31/08/2017 23:24:43 2041423 Link
Fancy ratoath to beat kildalkey. Kildalkey struggled to beat a poor BHG team. Ratoath getting better with each game and will be even better if Gavin McGowan is back. In the other game can see kilmessan beating killyon with a bit to spare. Kevin keena has been in wonderful form this season he's being doing untold cannot see killyon dealing with him and you can believe that thekillercrow (Meath) - Posts: 26 - 01/09/2017 12:27:02 2041543 Link