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Donegal girls have lovely accents! I'll have to try and keep a few seats for them at the top of the stand.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 04/07/2017 13:24:16    2010382

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Replying To Loyalroyal17:  "Was thinking that but looked online and its been sold as their old 2016 one, good to know. Best to switch to away kits i think for saturday."
True,
although Meath would be switching to what is essentially a Donegal shirt in all bar sponsor and crest. Infact If Im not mistaken the new Meath Kit this year has gone with white numbers and text on the sponsor, which would mean both teams changing kits to avoid a colour clash.... and end up with both wearing a variation of Yellow and white.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6342 - 04/07/2017 13:32:26    2010389

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Replying To grahamc9897:  "No dont think so ! Can't understand why there showing Mayo game rather that our match ! Mayo are going to win for sure ."
Lot of Donegal heads in Glasgow, so I'd imagine they'll be going to watch it in one of the Irish bars here. Will try my luck in more ways than one!

GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 04/07/2017 14:31:24    2010451

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Replying To oldsam_newsam:  "Great post, could have written that myself."
Maybe you did :)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/07/2017 14:59:37    2010475

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "From a Meath perspective I'd be weary of putting faith in an under-cooked Newman at FF. Don't get me wrong, he's a very good player and a great free-taker. But as bad as we were last Saturday, Neil McGee looked back to be back to his aggressive no-nonsense self.

Graham Reilly is an interesting one. Obviously someone with pace will be needed to track him. I'd be in agreement that if we can curtail him it'll go a long way in tilting the match in our favour. I'd like to see Kieran Gillespie given the job, but he has had a few niggly injuries and didn't see any game time the last day. Could maybe be Caolan Ward. He has an athletic background and has the defensive discipline to track him."
I think your post just proves my point.
But I will move on.
What I want is another 5 players who will stand up regardless of how Donegal curtail biggie. Then we will win regardless. Too many passengers last day.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/07/2017 15:04:25    2010478

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I think your post just proves my point.
But I will move on.
What I want is another 5 players who will stand up regardless of how Donegal curtail biggie. Then we will win regardless. Too many passengers last day."
royal dunne " Reilly the ONLY proven top grade player in the last 10 years" Are you joking? What about KEOGHAN, BURKE , BRAY K REILLY ETC..
Finally serious question Are you a Meath TEAM supporter or just a fanatical, blind loyal supporter of just ONE player.?? You have used up all the excuses at this point cop on !!

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1219 - 04/07/2017 16:08:02    2010522

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I think your post just proves my point.
But I will move on.
What I want is another 5 players who will stand up regardless of how Donegal curtail biggie. Then we will win regardless. Too many passengers last day."
I think there are a lot of compelling reasons for starting Newman even if he's not 100%-

- freetaking
- ability to win his own ball
- leadership
- eye for goal
- a foil for Donal

Plus he's a bit of a headache for Donegal to think about as a bit of an unknown quantity.

I can understand why Andy might not want to start him given his mantra for work but Micky is a classy player which might stimulate some of the players around him

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 04/07/2017 16:13:59    2010528

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Donegal dont care about Newman or Sullivan the only care about Reilly. That is all. Now been the only player who has proven himself a really top player that's not surprising. They will target him as Sligo did, what was your opinion on the trip he got on Saturday? One of the worst tackles I have seen in a long time. And all Sligo got was a black card. Not defending Connolly but he got 12 weeks for a little shove , this could have easily broken Reilly's leg."
"One of the worst tackles I have seen in a long time".

Royaldunne, you must have never gone to see Kells playing. LOL

subzero (Meath) - Posts: 69 - 04/07/2017 16:17:59    2010530

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Replying To nobull456:  "royal dunne " Reilly the ONLY proven top grade player in the last 10 years" Are you joking? What about KEOGHAN, BURKE , BRAY K REILLY ETC..
Finally serious question Are you a Meath TEAM supporter or just a fanatical, blind loyal supporter of just ONE player.?? You have used up all the excuses at this point cop on !!"
What are you talking about? Clearly you didn't read my post, the only player Donegal people care about is graham Reilly, actually I doubt many could name most of others. K Reilly, bray ? What position they playing on Saturday? I thought both had retired but you must know they coming out of retirement for this game. Gs
As for team? I tell you one thing I have been going to Meath games and actually wore the jersey (albeit very unsuccessful) probably when you were a twinkle in your dads eye.
I have watched jack Quinn play for Meath. I recall Colm O'Rourke been talked of as a up and coming player. Cop on? I think that should be addressed to yourself

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/07/2017 17:03:44    2010561

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Replying To subzero:  ""One of the worst tackles I have seen in a long time".

Royaldunne, you must have never gone to see Kells playing. LOL"
Oh jasus I avoid kells as much as possible:) I was driving her car through it one day and it had a Cavan reg on it, by time I got to herford arms there wasnt a window left in it :)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/07/2017 17:06:20    2010563

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Replying To bert09:  "I think there are a lot of compelling reasons for starting Newman even if he's not 100%-

- freetaking
- ability to win his own ball
- leadership
- eye for goal
- a foil for Donal

Plus he's a bit of a headache for Donegal to think about as a bit of an unknown quantity.

I can understand why Andy might not want to start him given his mantra for work but Micky is a classy player which might stimulate some of the players around him"
I am actually not sure what way to go with this, is Michael fit for 70 minutes? Doubtful.
If that's the case should he play first half and then be subbed or come on for second half when game is there to be won. Its one of those imponderables'.
I know Andy will have doubts when it comes to his work rate , but in this game he could be just what is needed to crack the Donegal nut.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/07/2017 17:10:39    2010568

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Replying To bert09:  "I think there are a lot of compelling reasons for starting Newman even if he's not 100%-

- freetaking
- ability to win his own ball
- leadership
- eye for goal
- a foil for Donal

Plus he's a bit of a headache for Donegal to think about as a bit of an unknown quantity.

I can understand why Andy might not want to start him given his mantra for work but Micky is a classy player which might stimulate some of the players around him"
I wouldn't be so sure winning his own ball is a gimme against a tight marking donegal back

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 887 - 04/07/2017 17:26:36    2010578

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I am actually not sure what way to go with this, is Michael fit for 70 minutes? Doubtful.
If that's the case should he play first half and then be subbed or come on for second half when game is there to be won. Its one of those imponderables'.
I know Andy will have doubts when it comes to his work rate , but in this game he could be just what is needed to crack the Donegal nut."
With home advantage I would be inclined to bring him on as a sub. His introduction is bound to gee up crowd and team when game is in the melting pot

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 04/07/2017 18:01:31    2010602

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Replying To bert09:  "With home advantage I would be inclined to bring him on as a sub. His introduction is bound to gee up crowd and team when game is in the melting pot"
I'm leaning that way myself, its a 21 man game if there ever was one, I think second half sub might be just when he is needed the most. Assuming its not like semis.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/07/2017 18:42:13    2010630

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I'm leaning that way myself, its a 21 man game if there ever was one, I think second half sub might be just when he is needed the most. Assuming its not like semis."
Lets hope the game IS in the melting pot in the second half!

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 04/07/2017 19:02:10    2010645

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I'm leaning that way myself, its a 21 man game if there ever was one, I think second half sub might be just when he is needed the most. Assuming its not like semis."
I would name him on the bench but start him..

grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 04/07/2017 19:06:05    2010647

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Replying To royaldunne:  "What are you talking about? Clearly you didn't read my post, the only player Donegal people care about is graham Reilly, actually I doubt many could name most of others. K Reilly, bray ? What position they playing on Saturday? I thought both had retired but you must know they coming out of retirement for this game. Gs
As for team? I tell you one thing I have been going to Meath games and actually wore the jersey (albeit very unsuccessful) probably when you were a twinkle in your dads eye.
I have watched jack Quinn play for Meath. I recall Colm O'Rourke been talked of as a up and coming player. Cop on? I think that should be addressed to yourself"
The issue was " Graham the ONLY player who has proven to be top grade in the last 10 years" your statement. Think you owe Keoghan, BrayBurke K Reilly and others an apology Dont twist the issue, stick to your statement or withraw it.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1219 - 04/07/2017 19:57:50    2010673

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Maybe you did :)"
No he did'nt write it but obviously he is a man of great intelligence!!

In relation to a few points being discussed I would just point out the following.

On Mickey Newman, he has played in some challenge matches and been on the bench for the championship games this season so I would assume he is reasonably fit if not match fit. My main issue is that it took too long to bring him on last Saturday evening when it was obvious that we needed him. I would also have thought that if he was seen as being a viable option for future games and needed more match time, then the game on Saturday was the ideal type of game to give him more pitch time. Whether he starts or comes on as a sub later on in the game is one of the big decisions that the management have to make for Saturday. In truth I get the impression that he is not seen as a key player for this management (I could be wrong) and i find this strange because personally ,whilst he can be frustrating at times, I think he gives us something extra and adds a bit of class to our forward line.

In relation to the discussion on G Reilly, its interesting to read the diverse opinions various posters have on him so i suppose it would be rude of me not to offer my own opinion !!
I think that most people would agree that he is a good player and I would concur. However there is a world of difference between being a good player and an exceptional player. Yes on his day he can be brilliant but I think he finds it hard to replicate these performances on a regular basis and to be fair to him, he is playing on a team that is desperately short of confidence and dare i say it ability, so it is probably unfair of us to think that he can actually play to a very high standard every time in these circumstances.

Finally I would just say that the system we employed on Saturday evening will not make forwards look good. Whether its Newman or Reilly or ROC or James McEntee,, this type of formation will not play to their strengths. Look at Donegal and Michael Murphy in particular. What the Donegal management have asked him to do over the last few years to strengthen their system of playing, actually detracts from his main ability. He is a brilliant forward and can wreak havoc on any defense, yet he is asked to play further and further out the pitch and whilst he is the type of player that can cope with this, i have always felt that he would offer more to the team if a system was developed to allow him play in the attacking third for most of the game.

Anyway, despite my user name, I actually am usually quite pessimistic before our games and this game is no different. I hope I am wrong but i am finding it hard to see how we will win. The great unknown for me is what the Donegal players attitude will be. If they want to prove to themselves that they can still make an impression on this years championship then they will probably win and win pulling up, if on the other hand they harbour any doubts and if there are any issues with their management then who knows maybe in a tight game we might be able to nick it.

The funny thing is, that I think that the winners of this game will end up in the last 8 (Under the present system I feel the losing provincial finalists are at a big disadvantage) so neither of the teams should be lacking in a desire to win.

ROYALOPTIMIST (Meath) - Posts: 179 - 04/07/2017 21:12:52    2010704

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Replying To royaldunne:  "What are you talking about? Clearly you didn't read my post, the only player Donegal people care about is graham Reilly, actually I doubt many could name most of others. K Reilly, bray ? What position they playing on Saturday? I thought both had retired but you must know they coming out of retirement for this game. Gs
As for team? I tell you one thing I have been going to Meath games and actually wore the jersey (albeit very unsuccessful) probably when you were a twinkle in your dads eye.
I have watched jack Quinn play for Meath. I recall Colm O'Rourke been talked of as a up and coming player. Cop on? I think that should be addressed to yourself"
No one doubts your passion for Meath football nor the fact that you have supported the team for a long time, but your opinion of G Reilly is at times over the top. By the way I do not see Donegal being too worried about any Meath player, I think they tend to be more concerned with getting their own 'System' of playing right and that this will take care of any threats in any team they are playing but I could be wrong.

Blind faith in an individual, cause or religion is all very well but having an open mind on everything is a trait I admire more in an individual these days.

Likewise a lifetime following a team or a sport does not automatically grant someone a greater knowledge of the present game.

I was asked recently by my future son in law what my earliest GAA memories were and whilst my answers made me realise how old I was getting, he was dumbfounded when I showed him a picture taken of me on my late fathers shoulders in Croke Park in 1962 when Galway beat Meath in an all Ireland semi final.
He did not believe me when I told him I stood in Ludlow St in Navan in 1968 when an Austrailian team marched behind a band down to the Russell Hotel and that I remember watching them play Meath in Navan later that weekend and being amazed by how far they could punch a ball ( They had to punch it because they could not kick a round ball!!).
I told him though that whilst I remembered the 67 final and the crowds lining the Dublin rd to welcome the team home that it was really 1970 that I remember the most, from the greatest Leinster final I ever seen, against offaly who scored 5-12 but we beat them by a point, to crying after Kerry beat us in the first 80 minute final . Later in the year after Meath played Derry in the old grounds tournament in Croke Park, I remember my father bringing me out on the pitch and standing on the spot where we had watched Tony Brennan kick a point in that Leinster final and being amazed at how far away the goal posts were.

Truth is however that when we watch games together now, he will see things developing in a game far quicker than me because his mind has adapted to present day tactics and styles of playing and I am only playing catch up.

Anyway RD I'M not having a go at you, I enjoy reading your posts and I admire your passion for Meath and I hope you never lose it. Sometimes though we all have to take a step back and re-evaluate our opinions on players and if Graham turns in a few match winning performances over the next few games I will certainly be more than happy to change my Eamon Dunphy tune of 'He's a good player....not a great player but.......'

ROYALOPTIMIST (Meath) - Posts: 179 - 04/07/2017 22:50:50    2010765

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Replying To nobull456:  "The issue was " Graham the ONLY player who has proven to be top grade in the last 10 years" your statement. Think you owe Keoghan, BrayBurke K Reilly and others an apology Dont twist the issue, stick to your statement or withraw it."
Firstly if you bothered to read my post you would have seen I was in relation to current team, of which only keoghan and burke is on, Donal fantastic player, has had a very poor year to his standards , as for burke? (the man you wanted dropped) best year in a Meath shirt. The other two? K Reilly too often injured to be considered a great player , bray now definitely, but you missed out Seamus kenny, as good as any of them, Joe Sheridan, brian Farrell, anthony Moyles. Think you owe them a apology for not mentioning these great Meath players

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/07/2017 23:09:30    2010778

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