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Its not like Toher would be dropped into the squad out of nowhere though. Hes been on the panel for years and was captain last year. Short sighted decision which will be to the detriment of Meath hurling.
RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 04/04/2017 21:43:43 1975756 Link 0 |
I had heard that JT was no longer on the Hurling panel but I thought it was his choice. Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 04/04/2017 21:58:03 1975765 Link 0 |
He played 1 full game in the league and 1 full game in the walsh cup. He hasn't been there this yr so they will get on without him. He himself choose to play football last weekend instead of playing in the league final with the team he captained last yr. So his priority is obviously football.
billyjack24 (Meath) - Posts: 40 - 04/04/2017 22:03:02 1975768 Link 0 |
He wasn't there on Sunday when they won the league final, nor was he there for several of the other games that they also won easily in his absence. Which fully committed member of the squad would you like to see making way for him if he decided to drop in on a weekend the footballers were off? I'd love to see him back Hurling, but not just the games the training and every team get together as well. Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 04/04/2017 22:05:04 1975770 Link 1 |
I know that is was the hurling management that dropped him. It was the right decision and realistically the only decision they could have made. It was obvious that he couldn't commit enough time to the hurlers. The only way that a player can play both football and hurling at county level is if there is agreement of both managers and a suitable schedule for training and matches is agreed between both, so that a player can devote a reasonable amount of time to both. My point was that with the mcentees in charge, that was never likely to happen- they were. Ever likely to be accommodating to hurling. Which I suppose is fair enough-it's their job to get the best results for the footballers, not to worry about the hurlers. It also looks like Martin Ennis only wants players who can commit fully to hurling, which is also fair enough. Thankfully we are now in a position where we can afford to drop players who can't or won't give 100% commitment. My only issue with a player opting for one code, or being dropped from a panel on the other code is that it gives another little bit of ammunition to the burn-the-Hurleys fools on the football side, or to the chip-on-our-shoulder brigade on the hurling side. anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 05/04/2017 07:13:06 1975851 Link 7 |
Personally would of preferred a more pragmatic approach to this. Its all well in good having principles 'oh well if he didn't turn up on Saturday' but that to me seems like a path back to Christy Ring. We're not Kilkenny (yet) and don't feel we're in a position to drop lads, especially Toher whos been a talisman for us. Leinster hurling and football campaigns dont overlap either. Shame. RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 05/04/2017 09:02:52 1975872 Link 1 |
Jt has been more than accommodated by the hurling management since the start of the season. He choose the footballers and that's that so I don't see any other approach to be taken. Still feel it's the right decision however it is a pity his preference is football because I think he's a stronger hurler than footballer but that's just my opinion.
billyjack24 (Meath) - Posts: 40 - 05/04/2017 10:49:08 1975919 Link 0 |
Problem is we are not in position to drop the likes of toher and Burke We may be able to handle grade 4 of the league without them but the next step is a big one. The two boys will take their league medals and put them on shelf and so will be as well off as the lads on the panel and that is the realaity numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 05/04/2017 11:35:28 1975939 Link 0 |
how people can argue that this is the wrong choice is beyond me hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 415 - 05/04/2017 11:50:32 1975949 Link 0 |
burke is no loss to the squad now to be fair. I am disappointed some arrangement couldn't be met as mentioned above the hurling and Footy dose not overlap. And I would say that playing the hurling during this time would only help keep him match sharp for the footy.
Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 05/04/2017 11:54:13 1975950 Link 0 |
Thought it was a terrible decision from the Chronicle to lead the sports section with that headline and made a great weekend for Meath hurling about two footballers who didn't play.. The panel is as strong as it ever was. Obviously Martin didn't find it easy to drop his captain from last year but its not fair on the other 30 lads Martin has to keep happy. begining (UK) - Posts: 300 - 05/04/2017 12:10:20 1975955 Link 1 |
your right it not fair on the lads who are playing and training all the time with the team. somone else said it aswell they are not hurling all the time and there touch and skill levels will not be up to scratch in 3 weeks to the leinster. and from speaking to some players of the past couple of years whenever mickey had been allowed to train and play with them for the christy ring campaigns they resented it because he was taking the place of somone who had fully committed to the team. so in my opinion the right decision for the team who have momentum now
srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 05/04/2017 12:22:05 1975965 Link 0 |
Totally agree this is why Martin want to draw a line under this because it's all about the 2 players and are they playing or not. It's time to push on with the panel we have and give credit to the lads that are fully committed and that brought home the silverware.
billyjack24 (Meath) - Posts: 40 - 05/04/2017 12:40:52 1975973 Link 0 |
chronicle article is a disgrace hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 415 - 05/04/2017 12:41:43 1975976 Link 0 |
It's absolutely the correct decision. James toher's hurling will undoubtedly suffer from being away training with football. Can't be easy for him and I'd wish him well with the footballers for the championship. Mickey Burke is a decent hurler but no better than anyone currently in there. Meath have a strong panel at present. In past years I think any of the current panel members would be certain starters. So with no more distractions they can now prepare for the championship and trying to get a win which will be difficult. Royalace (Meath) - Posts: 121 - 05/04/2017 13:06:57 1975988 Link 0 |
As far as I'm aware I think that's why the team wasn't announced last week as the limelight would be on why the 2 were missing and taking away from the players in the final.
billyjack24 (Meath) - Posts: 40 - 05/04/2017 13:14:21 1975990 Link 0 |
Come off it mickey Burke played picked and played for Ireland in shinty bit better than the average meath hurler
numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 05/04/2017 16:13:21 1976064 Link 0 |
What do you think Andy Mc would say to him if JT told him "I'll be along for the games but I'm too busy training with the hurlers to turn up for the football training...?" Why do you think Martin Ennis's response should be any different in the current circumstances...? Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 05/04/2017 20:55:05 1976181 Link 0 |
This current squad hasn't got where it is by being made up of players who there simply because they are 'better than the average Meath hurler' , this squad of players are there because of the total commitment and dedication they've given since day one at training and every time they put on the green jersey. Why would you want to dilute that spirit by slotting in a number of individuals don't want to give the same commitment..?
Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 05/04/2017 21:01:43 1976184 Link 0 |
I've already said I think Martin Ennis made the right decision and McEntee certainly would have done it long before this had the shoe been on the other foot.
Royalace (Meath) - Posts: 121 - 05/04/2017 21:54:13 1976223 Link 0 |